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Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

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Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby sahal80 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:18 am

News that Sh sharif heading to Kampala and Amisom forcing Farmaajo to meet Sharif and Hassan sh next week

i wonder what has this got to do with kheyre visiting Qatar? you know fahad yasin had been meeting with sh sharif in an attempt to divide madasha or split him from hassan sh group bc sharif and hassan sh coalition will turn the tables on them. Qatar see Kheyre as a representative to Xamar so expect more projects and promisesto silence to distract the local people
https://opm.gov.so/war/4692

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby Django » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:43 am

The pack of hyenas will pounce on you any minute from now.

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby Voltage » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:11 am

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:29 am

:russ: I thought the mighty HAG were so strong that Uganda and AMiSOM is nothing :russ:

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby SultanOrder » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:48 am

Sahal, quick question. This uprising you keep talking about. Can you show us any evidence that the opposition was calling for it, with either the leaders or their parties saying anything.

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby gobdoon » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:15 am

Uprising is not the answer but this Farmajo comes across as two faced stuborn I am right man uses dirty tactics says something and then changes gear to different direction do you remember when he was in Garowe caleema saarki Deni and that he made consilatory speech and said from now on he would work with everybody wuxu yiri wax walba waan ka odayayn
So he uses the tactic of his uncle divide and rule iyo in dadka la iska hor keeno waliba qabiilada and thats a bad tactic because what you are doing is destroying insteade of building and strengthening and sticking to the agreements and the road map drawn by people before him

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:25 am

To have an effective uprising it has to look organic and not being controlled by one person. If it turns out badly you don’t own it. If successful then you sit back until the the status quo leadership beg you to end it and then you ask for your pound of flesh.

Sharif comes out weak and now has emboldened Farmaajo and Co to continue their pressure campaign. They may go far as arresting him

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:22 am

To have an effective uprising it has to look organic and not being controlled by one person. If it turns out badly you don’t own it. If successful then you sit back until the the status quo leadership beg you to end it and then you ask for your pound of flesh.

Sharif comes out weak and now has emboldened Farmaajo and Co to continue their pressure campaign. They may go far as arresting him
How did he come out weak. He said Wallahi Thuma Wallahi we will get rid of them if they DON'T stop.

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby Voltage » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:03 pm

To be honest with you, I laughed and have been taking the piss at Sahal, not Sheikh Sharif.

Perfect is on the money. So far we have seen 0 evidence that Sh Sharif or the opposition planned a protest. We have not seen a public spokesman in front of a camera at their party headquarters. We have not seen an official announcement on their social media accounts including Twitter and Facebook, which we know they both use. We have not seen any organization, planning, or intent.

So really no one is saying this was a flop on the opposition's face.

It's literally starts with and ended with Sahal (and a small fake misinformation-campaign style flier).

Literally that Sahal is CONTINUING to push this entirely fake story is due to pride and ego; he can't stand it we laughed at him. He turned petty and vindictive because he got into some cyber arguments with couple Marehans and the fact they had the last laugh just kills him inside. :lol:

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby SultanOrder » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:35 pm

Voltage, Sahal won’t answer that question because of what it implies. If he had a real connection with the opposition he would’ve known this whole thing was bs. Then that begs the question where did he get his information from? He got it from Facebook and tabloid websites. Sahal is no more than a Facebook analyst.

Another proof he has no idea what is going on is the logical inconsistencies and contradictions of his positions. He says Khayre wants to remove Amisom from Villa Somalia and that will make HAG stronger. But here he paints and always paints Amisom and specifically Uganda as partisans of HAG. So, does HAG want Amisom in Villa Somalia or not?


Btw SAHAL, this is not the time where Museveni will remove Farmaajo for you.

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby Murax » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:19 pm

:dead: :dead: :dead:

After hiding for 4 days, getting madax xanuun thinking how could he could spin this, this is the best poor Sahal could come up with. SXB just take the L my goodness!!

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:25 pm

Abkoow

This is the second escalation by Farmaajo and co and one of the most serious. Sheik Sharif threw the down the gauntlet and was met with criticism for it.

The fact that nothing came out of his “Thuma” speech will signal to Farmaajo and his minions that Sharif does not enjoy broad support. He looks weak and weakness emboldens the Jeberti.

As for Sahal’s analysis, he sees the larger issue at hand but made a small analytical error. He thought that Sharif was a man of his word and would express his displeasure with the dictatorial tendencies of the Farmaajo regime. The facts have not changed there is a growing unease among the Hawiye in Xamar with this governments policies. What they lack is a leader who isn’t beholden to the status quo of Somali politics. Hawiye need a Trump!

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby Seedyare » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:56 pm

Abkoow

This is the second escalation by Farmaajo and co and one of the most serious. Sheik Sharif threw the down the gauntlet and was met with criticism for it.

The fact that nothing came out of his “Thuma” speech will signal to Farmaajo and his minions that Sharif does not enjoy broad support. He looks weak and weakness emboldens the Jeberti.

As for Sahal’s analysis, he sees the larger issue at hand but made a small analytical error. He thought that Sharif was a man of his word and would express his displeasure with the dictatorial tendencies of the Farmaajo regime. The facts have not changed there is a growing unease among the Hawiye in Xamar with this governments policies. What they lack is a leader who isn’t beholden to the status quo of Somali politics. Hawiye need a Trump!
What are the possible attributes of Hawiye trump?

A tough dude who takes Somalia back to decades of HAG madness and Moryanism in Hamar and by extension the entire south ?

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby Voltage » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:04 pm

Abdiwahab,

Looks like Sahal isn't the only powerless one in Mog who thinks Abgaal is the vehicle to carry out his sinister agenda. Abgaal aint going to get fooled again sxb. No one enjoys more the peace, security, and development that is going on in Mog than Abgaal. They'll be damned if former USC remnants who ended up causing them more pain and regret than anything before it sabotage their peace and security. :ufdup:

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Re: Uganda and Amisom begged to Stop Xamar uprising

Postby Murax » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:05 pm

AbdiWahab252,

Why don’t we just acknowledge the very simple fact that 1991 qabiil era battle drums are simply not viable strategies anymore. It works for the average coffee shop, keyboard fadhi ku dirir dynamos but not actually in Somalia.


It is not honest debate and discourse to not draw simple reasonable conclusions. The fact of the matter is the people of Xamar I don’t give a damn if they’re Hiraab, even from the same laf as Shariif don’t have a while lot of regard for Shariif/Culusow. That much is a given and if we cannot even acknowledge that then thats just being hardheaded.


Btw, so I’m not misquoted I’m not saying they didn’t protest because they adore Farmaajo, Kheyre either. That’s a different discussion. I’m just saying it is clear now Shariif, Culusow are yesterday’s news. Like I said million times if the opposition is serious find a new face.


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