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The Three HAG AGENDAS

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The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby sahal80 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:06 pm

1- Abgaal waxay ku mashquil sanyihiin hub aruursi iyo re-abgaaleynta ciidanka hadii hal maalin Farmaajo ku darsado in ciidanka iyo xabad ka hor keebaan



2-HG: USC veteran and ex Generaal caydiid Gaandhari qoorqoor says only nabadoonimo uu ku soconaa waa diiday in ciidan ahaan la iska horkeeno tolkiisa wich means keeping the status quo in Galmudug(beenbeen kula dhamayso 2021


3-Hawadle are busy on "making Hirshabellada Cusub" i was told that the reason Sanbaloolshe is missing from their shir is bc Hassan sheekh and Sharif wanna use in him Sanbaloolshe to bring hawadle to the fold "and this shir has different agenda" however their Hirsgabelle presidential candidate abdirizaq was welcomed postponing any new USC agendas to after the formation of Hirshabelle. "if a war takes place in Xamar JL leading clan will join it from their side". the good thing is that Hirshabelle elections will take place in this year before the unukaleh elections. adeer bahasha saas waaye waxayga meel ila saar kadib waxaada waa kugu taageeri

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senator dhagajuun jokes with mp goodah and mp abdirizaaq wich one of you is the next president and abdirizak says its goodax

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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby Kees70 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:38 pm

D/P
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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby Kees70 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:39 pm

Farmaajo will leave no doubt, but what the Oppositions need to do is bring an viable candidates not has been like Sheikh Shariif or qoslaayo culusow HSM, the Oppositions needs new faces badly or PM Kheire might be the President in 2021.



:lupe: and Also Sahal horta, what is this New Hirshabelle you keep mentioning, you said out of the 22 Qabiils in Hirhsballe all 20 will lose their MP seats, so which qabiil will lose out their Seats, you said that Hiraab remains on Xawadle side, so will Abgaal and Habar Gidir both be given seats or will HG also lose its seats like those 20 mps or will they be empowered by Xawadle since HG are neighbour State holder Galmudug?

And what about the rest of Hiiraan clans like Gaaljecel and Baadicade will they all be ignored?

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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby sahal80 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:02 pm

Farmaajo will leave no doubt, but what the Oppositions need to do is bring an viable candidates not has been like Sheikh Shariif or qoslaayo culusow HSM, the Oppositions needs new faces badly or PM Kheire might be the President in 2021.



:lupe: and Also Sahal horta, what is this New Hirshabelle you keep mentioning, you said out of the 22 Qabiils in Hirhsballe all 20 will lose their MP seats, so which qabiil will lose out their Seats, you said that Hiraab remains on Xawadle side, so will Abgaal and Habar Gidir both be given seats or will HG also lose its seats like those 20 mps or will they be empowered by Xawadle since HG are neighbour State holder Galmudug?

And what about the rest of Hiiraan clans like Gaaljecel and Baadicade will they all be ignored?
welcome back Ustaad! kkkk

bro "Hirshabeelada cusub" includes hawadle this time waliba Ugaas Hassan. majority of Hawadle see it some thing ceeb to support "kirshabelle" kkk

bro even Jowhar is our capital the differance is that abgaal have army in there. Jowhar is 4 xaafad three Jareer and abgaal and one western gaaljecel and hawadle(qoraxsin)

Jowhar became Fully abgaal in mid 90s after wacbuudhan took over Ali Mahdi who is harti. their harti warsangali politicians like mohamed dheere and geedi moved to Jowhar to find sonewhere they can influence on the Somali politics. they have been welcomed by hawadle as they joined the ethiopian camp they needed hiiraan as a safe passage to ethiopia and ethiopia was sending them arms through hiiraan. we united 1999 on baladweyne conference. omar hashi was elected as the leader and mohamed dheere as his deputy this was the hirshabelle of 90s for those who say hawadle cany lead it kkk

now we have hirshabelle police in Jowhar some r hawadle and gaaljecel and jareer.

Jowhar had 15 years hawadle mayor so most shaqaale were hawadle who live now in one xaafad. reer baadiyaha hawadlaha in qoraxsin connected to this xaafad. we r there as population just no army but in the future jowhar will be divided into reer hiiraan side vs abgaal side. we wanna reach out to Abgaal then on behalfe of reer hiiraan we gonna more empower Baladweyne. last time they were used by hiraab this time it will be the opposite that is it no sadbursi and isolation at all its about hiiraan as a region.


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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:31 pm

Can't wait to sunday

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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby Samatalis249 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:40 pm

Ragaan si kasta baa lo waaniyay. Xabad mooye walle inaanay kursi ka kacaayn. Xamar na ogaan bay uu go doomiyeen si cidamada gobolada kale ay al shabaab deyr u dhexeya uga digaan lahaayeen.

Anigu waxan dalbaniya in maareeye iyo mahdi guleed maydkooda la jiido
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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby sahal80 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:41 pm

Hirshabelle of the 90s(Jowhar and Hiiraan political union under a New USC(Somali Somali Consultative Council SCC)

1. Colenel Cumar Xaashi Aadan (Guddoomiye)
2. Mudane Maxamed Cumar Maxamed "Maxamed Dheere" (guddoomiye ku
Xiggeenka arrimaha siyaasada)



Shirka nabbada iyo dib u heshiisinta beelaha hawiye oo socday 225
maalmood ayaa lagu soo gabagabeeyey magaalada Beletweyne ee Waddanka
Hiiraan bishii July 2. Magaca Ururka Golaha Wada Tashiga Soomaaliyeed.
Somali Consultative Counsil (S.C.C)
Magacyada Ugaasyada

1. Ugaas Khalif Ugaas Rooble
2. Ugaas Cabduqaadir Ugas Xaashi
3. Ugaas Cabdullahi Ugaas Maxamed
4. Suldaan Cali Suldaan Axmed Nuur
5. Wabar Xassan Wabar Kutubow
6. Ugaas Cali Ugaas Xassan Raage
7. Ugaas Cabdixakiim Ugaas Maxad
8. Wabar Axmed Wabar Cabdi
9. Ugaas Maxamed Ugaas sheekh Shafeec

Magacyada Guddiga Ururka:

1. Colenel Cumar Xaashi Aadan (Guddoomiye)
2. Mudane Maxamed Cumar Maxamed "Maxamed Dheere" (guddoomiye ku
Xiggeenka arrimaha siyaasada)
3. Colenel Cabdullahi Maxamud Samatar "Black" (" " " " "
difaaca iyo nabedgalyada)
4. Colonel Aden Axmed Cabdi "koryeeri" (" " " " "
arrimaha bulshada)
5. Eng. Garaad Cismaan Cumar (" " " " "
maaliyada iyo dhaqaalaha)
6. Mudane Cabdullahi Cabdi Soomane (" " " " "
dib u dhiska iyo dib u heshiisinta)
7. Mudane Maxamuud Cabdullahi Xuseen "Cadawe" ( Xoghayaha Guud)
8. Colonel Maxamed Cumar Maxamud (K. Xoghayaha)
9. Mudane Ibraahim Maxamed Diiriye (K. Xoghayaha)
10. Colonel Aden Farax Maxamed (K. Xoghayaha)
11. Mudane Sheekh Ibraahim X. Cismaan (K. Xoghayaha)


we failed to form a new USC with the Abgaals of xamar so it worked on Jowhar level under Hawadle leadership. Abgaals of Xamar wanted to lead it like hussein haji bood(waceysle caydiid rival on USC leadership) that is. if you say as Abgaal you can lead hawadle but per Jowhar hawadle leads.

http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Hornet/irin_71999.html


"The failure of Hawiye clan unity has been underlined by the Belet Weyne conference. This began last November as a Hawiye peace and reconciliation meeting, resolving most of the traditional differences between the Hawiye clans before moving into the political phase of the meeting in February. The conference, however, was not attended by many leading Hawiye political personalities, including Hussein Aideed, Ali Mahdi, and Mohamed Qanyare, nor indeed by their main opponents. Musse Sude, for example, though he declared support for the meeting's conclusions was not there; Hussein Bod attended for a time, but in mid-June returned to Mogadishu, announcing he had been elected chairman. In fact, the conference ended on 2 July with the election of Colonel Omar Hashi as chairman of the 11-man Somali Consultative Council chosen as the Hawiye political leadership, and including representatives from all the main Hawiye clans"

one of the good results of this shir HG jidkaa loo furay 1999 despite not attending it. it was closed on them since 1994 war.

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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby Murax » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:07 pm

As a N&N supporter I must say Alhamdulilah I’m not confined to reading a gazillion ‘Abdi’ ‘Xaliimo’ social media posts, fadhi ku dirir.net rumor mill until 2021. That must suck mrgreen:

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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby sahal80 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:21 pm

As a N&N supporter I must say Alhamdulilah I’m not confined to reading a gazillion ‘Abdi’ ‘Xaliimo’ social media posts, fadhi ku dirir.net rumor mill until 2021. That must suck mrgreen:
kkk ok you believe in caasimada stop being hypocrite now cause you posted it about kheyre. abgaal r the only clan who naively believe in democracy they dont wanna start xabad before his mandate comes to an end. there is a plan of the HAG 17 distrrict commissioners and 17 taliyaasha making a move against Farmaajo besides the AbgaalNA. no need for war reer xalane will be scared to death and offer qoorta farmaajo. mark my word how omar filish will take over Xamar.

allah yasir i heard Jowhar army going to Xamar wich will impact on Hirahabelle stability though the president can move baladweyne .if xamar goes jowhar will go same warlords will take over it. see why im against you cause your f-king up ourlives you r destabilizing elements i prefer The stable Sahalists over you bc they have somethkng to care like PL and JL while you have nothing. if you think al shabaab will take over your wrong. amisom will be there laakin ma soo faragashanayso qaska besides al shabaab stays away from ciidanka qabiilka
https://www.caasimada.net/xog-sheekh-sh ... -mudulood/
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Postby Somaliweeyn007 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:23 pm

I see Hassan Sheikh is advocating for mooryanism, great candidate there

I am sure the international community is impressed with that tweet :lol:

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Postby Samatalis249 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:52 pm

Wallahi they’re sick in the head kkkkkkk

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Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:01 pm

Hawiye goormu siyaasad baran
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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby Murax » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:05 pm

Sahal,


Bro, as a N&N supporter I’m here relaxing, drinking shah until 2021. 2021 yaa dintay yaa nool Ilaahay Hana gaarsiiyo. That said I don’t see how the most powerful, most internationally Gov since MSB won’t come back, lakin today Feb 2020 انا مرتاح, not worrying bout nothing.


Lakin adiga social media Abdi Heblaayo, Xalimo Heblaayo ku sii jir looking for Anti N&N postings. Hopefully they keep their pages public :russ:

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Re: The Three HAG AGENDAS

Postby Voltage » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:08 pm

Sahal,


Bro, as a N&N supporter I’m here relaxing, drinking shah until 2021. 2021 yaa dintay yaa nool Ilaahay Hana gaarsiiyo. That said I don’t see how the most powerful, most internationally Gov since MSB won’t come back, lakin today Feb 2020 انا مرتاح, not worrying bout nothing.


Lakin adiga social media Abdi Heblaayo, Xalimo Heblaayo ku sii jir looking for Anti N&N postings. Hopefully they keep their pages public :russ:
Waan la yaabanahay when I used to think this guy even had any inside XOG about anything. Ileen all he used to do was read Facebook and recycle it here. :wtf:

Even what he brought today is the surface rumurs on social media.

For example, the Hassan Sh statement was in the context of odeyga Direed ee Ahlu Sunnah spiritiual advisor ah (Macalin Maxamuud) who declared that very morning on Feb 14th Ahlu Sunnah will go back to carrying arms. Hassan Sheekh told everybody hadalkayga intaas ma dhaafsaneyn.

Odeyga Direed himself was told by dawlada " then we will TAKE BACK recognition of Ahlu Sunnah" and the moment you pick up another weapon you will officially be an "enemy combatant" in contravention of the arms embargo.

One of the things that made me laugh recently was Sahal talking about Awlibaax and why he became the Rep of Ahlu Sunnah signing things like the end of the transition. One of the things he said was "the reason Awlibaax became the face is because he was pro-Darodist MX and Puntland got him that opposite to the MORE POWERFUL central Ahlu Sunnah."

Maba u jawaabin because it was such a waste of my time.

AWLIBAAX is the man WHO WOKE UP the Marehan Ahlu Sunnah political organization that formed in Gedo FIGHTING AL ITIXAD in the 90's---the Shabab threat was new Al Itihad and that's how they REKINDLED the POLITICAL organization joked as "Ahlu Sade wal Jamaca".

Awlibaax went to Ethiopia and asked for WEAPONS. They said THINGS ARE DIFFERENT NOW from the 90s and international war on terror is complex, go to the Americans and get recognition first.

AWLIBAAX then convened the Marehan political apparatus that used to be known as SNF. He said war maraykaynka waa inaan la hadalno ee waan idin baahanahay (your political expertise)...THIS IS HOW ALL OF MAREHAN CAME TO BE UNDER AHLU SUNNAH NAME EVEN BARRE HIIRAALE.

Marehan went to Americans and reached a deal and a COMPLEX RECOGNITION that would free AHLU SUNNAH from the arms embargo and keep their fighting identity independent from the corrupt and non-existent TFG army (separate clan militias) was reached. This is why Ahlu Sunnah has NEVER been sanctioned under the Arms Embargo.

Read countless monitoring reports on the arms embargo, countless leaked cables from wikileaks, public policy papers from international partners, etc.

1. The simply trajectory of Ahlu Sunnah CENTRAL even being relevant was because it was a PROXY made possible by Marehan political apparatus.
  1. Cayrow and Shabaab captured Dhusamareb without gunshot
  2. alarmed reer Caabudwaaq reached out to Ahlu Sunnah Gedo which was just waking up after having disbanded following Al Itihad defeat in late 90's
  3. Sh AWLIBAAX was reconfiguring Ahlu Sunnah Koonfureed in Dollow, Gedo...which was the only southern district outside of Villa Somalia free from Shabaab
  4. Sh AWLIBAAX WENT TO CAABUDWAAQ and set up Ahlu Sunnah Gobalada dhexe with Sh Guureeye (Marehan)
  5. Ahlu Sunnah Gobalada Dhexe was formally announced in CAABUDWAAQ by Sh Guureeye, Xeefoow (Cayr), and Macalin Maxamed (Dir, Fiqi Muxumed)
  6. Ahlu Sunnah NATIONALLY from late 2008 to 2015 had THIS ORGANIZATION
    1. Ahlu Sunnah/Southern ruled from Dollow, Gedo was recognized to be preeminent to Ahlu Sunnah Central
      1. This is why Sh AWLIBAAX always repped Ahlu Sunnah in international conference including the framework and the ending of the transition
      2. He repped them BECAUSE HE GOT THE STAMP THAT LEGITIMIZED THEM AS FRIENDLY ARMED COMBTANTS
    2. Also a power sharing system was agreed to for Ahlu Sunnah Central between Marehan, Cayr, and Dir
      1. Marehan ---- Gudoomiyaha Sedexda Gole ahna Gudoomiyaha Guud
        1. Sh Guureeye ---- 2007-2011
        2. Prof Labo-Garre ---- 2011-2012
        3. Sh Guureeye ---- 2012-2015
          1. In 2015, Marehan led by Sh Guureeye engaged in internationally backed merger with Galmudug under Abdikareem Guuleed
          2. Marehan as a clan formally withdrew from Ahlu Sunnah
      2. Cayr ---- Gudoomiyaha Golaha Fulinta
      3. Dir/Fiqi Muxumud ---- Gudoomiyaha Golaha Taladda
      4. Rotating clans ---- Gudoomiyaha Golaha Marjaca
Basically Cayr still using HAMBADA Ahlu Sunnah name that Marehan made and then discarded is really a testament to HG INABILITY to politically reinvent itself or have metamorphosis.

Odeyga Direed on February 14 waxaa lagu yiri HOW CAN YOU THREATEN when YOU EXIST because of OUR LEGITIMACY (Gov)?

If we take it back, you will be grounds for being forcibly disarmed otherwise you are enemy combatants.

Since that day, may hadlin and Hassan Sheikh was trying to encourage their madax adeeg

As for the rest iyo Hirshabellada cusub iyo waxuu sheegayo. No comment but I can tell you, no one is paying attention and it is a mark of the fact is ma hubaan. :arrow:

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Postby vinshom » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:52 pm

Farmaajo signed the election law after A abgaal leaders threatened him, walee Abgaal are lions


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