Abiy Ahmed Acknowledges Communist Nation Assistance, Somalia Initial Victory 1977

[Murax]

Acknowledging necessity of foreigners

“Waxaanna hambalyo, sharaf iyo maamusba halkan uga soo jeedinayaa ciidmadii Cuba iyo Yemen ee Itoobiya iyaga oo ka garab dagaalamaya naftooda qaaliga ah u huray difaaca Itoobiya. Geesiyadi Itoobiya oo naftooda u horay difaaca dalkoodana sida oo kale.”


Acknowledging MSB victories in the beginning

“ Maxamed Siyaad Barre waxa uu sameeyey khalad weyn markii uu u qaatay inay ahayd waqtigii ku haboonaa ee uu qabsan lahaa Itoobiya. Waxa uu mooday inuu naga adkaan karo oo dalkeena uu tabar-darran yahay. Waxa uu isku dhufsaday xisaab qaldan wuuna nagu soo duulay,” ayuu yiri Abiy.


“Waxa uu awood u yeeshay inuu qabsado dhul ballaaran oo dalkeena ka mid ah isaga oo aan la kulmin iska caabin. Hase yeeshee dadka Itoobiya ayaa muujiyey waxa ay awoodaan marka ay sare kacaan.”

[Murax]

Let the raw meat eating aids patient keep celebrating whatever. Right now they are not the ones trying to steal our maritime resources, destabilizing. He has his hands full with consilidsting power with Amharic, Tigray, etc dissidents. Prudent thing for us to do is to fake smile, continue to build so they feel a false sense of friendship. This gives us time to deal with the more immediate threat Kenya (Maritime court decision in June). When we’re stronger we’ll circle back to them.


Last but not least they could celebrate what they want. In Xamar we also celebrate our heros that brought Abysinnia to heal, so its all good

[Nomand]

a lot of people don't understand what abiy is trying to do, he is calming down his own people. remember amhara and tigray are against a strong somalia.

since abiy has been in office he cut off all the federal states like somaliland, puntland and jubbaland and told them to deal with their own government. And stopped Ethiopia from destabilizing Somalia. So basically he changed Ethiopia's ethos for the last 60 years overnight and now is just reassuring his dissidents within Ethiopia that "don't worry Somalia is still our enemy"

[Murax]

a lot of people don't understand what abiy is trying to do, he is calming down his own people. remember amhara and tigray are against a strong somalia.

since abiy has been in office he cut off all the federal states like somaliland, puntland and jubbaland and told them to deal with their own government. And stopped Ethiopia from destabilizing Somalia. So basically he changed Ethiopia's ethos for the last 60 years overnight and now is just reassuring his dissidents within Ethiopia that "don't worry Somalia is still our enemy"

Believe me bro, I saw right through this. He is trying to sell Ethios on trusting a lower class with leadership. His real enemies are those that do not acknowledge his authority in Ethiopia.

[IRONm@N]

Acknowledging necessity of foreigners

“Waxaanna hambalyo, sharaf iyo maamusba halkan uga soo jeedinayaa ciidmadii Cuba iyo Yemen ee Itoobiya iyaga oo ka garab dagaalamaya naftooda qaaliga ah u huray difaaca Itoobiya. Geesiyadi Itoobiya oo naftooda u horay difaaca dalkoodana sida oo kale.”


Acknowledging MSB victories in the beginning

“ Maxamed Siyaad Barre waxa uu sameeyey khalad weyn markii uu u qaatay inay ahayd waqtigii ku haboonaa ee uu qabsan lahaa Itoobiya. Waxa uu mooday inuu naga adkaan karo oo dalkeena uu tabar-darran yahay. Waxa uu isku dhufsaday xisaab qaldan wuuna nagu soo duulay,” ayuu yiri Abiy.


“Waxa uu awood u yeeshay inuu qabsado dhul ballaaran oo dalkeena ka mid ah isaga oo aan la kulmin iska caabin. Hase yeeshee dadka Itoobiya ayaa muujiyey waxa ay awoodaan marka ay sare kacaan.”

Ethiopia considers us their enemy,
You can never compare Kenya to Ethiopia.

[Murax]

Acknowledging necessity of foreigners

“Waxaanna hambalyo, sharaf iyo maamusba halkan uga soo jeedinayaa ciidmadii Cuba iyo Yemen ee Itoobiya iyaga oo ka garab dagaalamaya naftooda qaaliga ah u huray difaaca Itoobiya. Geesiyadi Itoobiya oo naftooda u horay difaaca dalkoodana sida oo kale.”


Acknowledging MSB victories in the beginning

“ Maxamed Siyaad Barre waxa uu sameeyey khalad weyn markii uu u qaatay inay ahayd waqtigii ku haboonaa ee uu qabsan lahaa Itoobiya. Waxa uu mooday inuu naga adkaan karo oo dalkeena uu tabar-darran yahay. Waxa uu isku dhufsaday xisaab qaldan wuuna nagu soo duulay,” ayuu yiri Abiy.


“Waxa uu awood u yeeshay inuu qabsado dhul ballaaran oo dalkeena ka mid ah isaga oo aan la kulmin iska caabin. Hase yeeshee dadka Itoobiya ayaa muujiyey waxa ay awoodaan marka ay sare kacaan.”

Ethiopia considers us their enemy,
You can never compare Kenya to Ethiopia.

That was true before the maritime case, and probably after the maritime case regardless of who wins but at this very moment I’m typing no. The guy in front of you trying to take your lunch is a lore immediate threat than the guy who wants to fight you tomorrow. I think Kenya was legitimately shocked, and even felt betrayed Somalia took them to International court. They were expecting Somalia to just work something out and say take this. When Somalia never did they changed their behavior l. I’m glad this Gov and the last one didn’t. Money can solve A LOT of Somalia’s problems.

[Samatalis249]

a lot of people don't understand what abiy is trying to do, he is calming down his own people. remember amhara and tigray are against a strong somalia.

since abiy has been in office he cut off all the federal states like somaliland, puntland and jubbaland and told them to deal with their own government. And stopped Ethiopia from destabilizing Somalia. So basically he changed Ethiopia's ethos for the last 60 years overnight and now is just reassuring his dissidents within Ethiopia that "don't worry Somalia is still our enemy"

He hasn’t cut a damn thing off. He just agreed to help Farmajo use Ethiopian amisom for his political goals for 4 dekeds and for Somalia to stop talking about berbera. Somalis are an existential threat to the states of Kenya and Ethiopia. If Somalis agreed to a heshis bulsho and rules of the game for internal politics then we would dominate the region economically militarily and politically.

[AbdiWahab252]

Abiy and Ethiopia have cause to celebrate because they Ce out of the war much stronger. They had a skilled visionary leader who built strong alliances both among Communists countries and even with the US.

MSB had no vision or strategic foresight about this war. He ignored his diplomats who tried to dissuade him from a campaign. His invasion was met with international condemnation that he even got the US and USSR on the Same side to not support Somalia.

It really took something to get the US and USSR to agree on the same issue. We lost the war and the nation began its slide into anarchy all because of poor leadership.

Mengistu left his country when his time was up and in a position much better than Barre left Somalia

[sahal80]

cagjir has more balls than his toy Farmaajo. abiy ignores the wars against the italians in Eritrea let alone Eritrea itself. kkk at murax ethiopia considers sayidka part of their heritage. it's called culture wars. do you know ethiopia insisted the name Ogaden over Somaligalbeed? to indicate its not part of Somalia. mashallah your wadaniyion when it comes to kenya save me from your munaafaqnimo

fatxul habasha kulhaa iyi axmed gurey abyssina iyo itoobiyuu isku qaldaa damn.





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[XimanJaale]

Let the raw meat eating aids patient keep celebrating whatever. Right now they are not the ones trying to steal our maritime resources, destabilizing. He has his hands full with consilidsting power with Amharic, Tigray, etc dissidents. Prudent thing for us to do is to fake smile, continue to build so they feel a false sense of friendship. This gives us time to deal with the more immediate threat Kenya (Maritime court decision in June). When we’re stronger we’ll circle back to them.


Last but not least they could celebrate what they want. In Xamar we also celebrate our heros that brought Abysinnia to heal, so its all good

Axmed Gurey. Geesigii Soomaliyeed.

Its beautiful these statues really. They did a good job our government. Ilaahi ha inoo xafiido

[XimanJaale]

Abiy and Ethiopia have cause to celebrate because they Ce out of the war much stronger. They had a skilled visionary leader who built strong alliances both among Communists countries and even with the US.

MSB had no vision or strategic foresight about this war. He ignored his diplomats who tried to dissuade him from a campaign. His invasion was met with international condemnation that he even got the US and USSR on the Same side to not support Somalia.

It really took something to get the US and USSR to agree on the same issue. We lost the war and the nation began its slide into anarchy all because of poor leadership.

Mengistu left his country when his time was up and in a position much better than Barre left Somalia

Siad Barre had vision but he had no people. He had looters and dameers as people. Plus, Somalia a Muslim country and Ethiopia a Christian nation. Clearly the white men will side with crusade whether they are Orthodox Russians or protestant Americans. The Muslim world of today and the Muslim world of those days are still the same. Bunch of spinless nations. Siad Barre had no good Somalis around him and he had no good muslim nations around him. He was a lion without people.

May allah bless him janatul fardous.

[UgaaskaBarakaysan]

Abiy and Ethiopia have cause to celebrate because they Ce out of the war much stronger. They had a skilled visionary leader who built strong alliances both among Communists countries and even with the US.

MSB had no vision or strategic foresight about this war. He ignored his diplomats who tried to dissuade him from a campaign. His invasion was met with international condemnation that he even got the US and USSR on the Same side to not support Somalia.

It really took something to get the US and USSR to agree on the same issue. We lost the war and the nation began its slide into anarchy all because of poor leadership.

Mengistu left his country when his time was up and in a position much better than Barre left Somalia

Siad Barre had vision but he had no people. He had looters and dameers as people. Plus, Somalia a Muslim country and Ethiopia a Christian nation. Clearly the white men will side with crusade whether they are Orthodox Russians or protestant Americans. The Muslim world of today and the Muslim world of those days are still the same. Bunch of spinless nations. Siad Barre had no good Somalis around him and he had no good muslim nations around him. He was a lion without people.

May allah bless him janatul fardous.

Somalia had animal warlords armed and supported by Ethiopia like caydiid who was running amok with drugged up thugs thirsty for civilian blood. Looting underground water pipes, government ministerial documents, UN humanitarian aid, and the homes of citizens. This sort of abhorrent barbarism made Somalia's situation unsalvageable. Much different to Ethiopia, whose civilians were generally well behaved and civilized in their approach.

Siad was a strategic genius that captured large swathes of land from Ethiopia and quickly crushed Ethiopian forces in lighting speed akin to the German blitzkrieg offensive. Things were progressing well until as you said Orthodox christians came to the aid of those whom they shared many more similarities with. Ethiopia has had a very long history of their christian patrons coming to their aid to enforce their position as leaders in the region against the muslim majority Somalia. Such was the case even when Italy was trying to colonize Ethiopia it was the United Kingdom who was their biggest ally in ensuring Italy didn't fully colonize them.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

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[Murax]

Abiy and Ethiopia have cause to celebrate because they Ce out of the war much stronger. They had a skilled visionary leader who built strong alliances both among Communists countries and even with the US.

MSB had no vision or strategic foresight about this war. He ignored his diplomats who tried to dissuade him from a campaign. His invasion was met with international condemnation that he even got the US and USSR on the Same side to not support Somalia.

It really took something to get the US and USSR to agree on the same issue. We lost the war and the nation began its slide into anarchy all because of poor leadership.

Mengistu left his country when his time was up and in a position much better than Barre left Somalia

You will not find one argument from me or blind defending because of Tol. The decision to go to war by MSB AUN was disastrous plain and simple. We are paying for it to this very day.


Best thing is acknowledge it, use it as a learning lesson and move on. Problem with us Somalis is we get stuck on certain periods, moments and never let go. Dwelling on the past does nothing!

[dalalos101]

Lmao I feel sorry for the people in the Somali region, we in Somalia have nothing to do with Ethiopia and what they celebrate we are a seperate country, we celebrate our own heroes like MSB, Adan Low etc who went to war with Ethiopia