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Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby sahal80 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:01 am

current president will not be back but the pm has big chance if the current parliament is voting. if there is elections it will be based on xisbiyo still the pm will have the biggest party based on his support on the cabinet and the parliament(majority of them)

and here we will have the strongest xisbi from mucaaradka to compete with this xisbi.



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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby Murax » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:11 am

current president will not be back but the pm has big chance if the current parliament is voting. if there is elections it will be based on xisbiyo still the pm will have the biggest party based on his support on the cabinet and the parliament(majority of them)

and here we will have the strongest xisbi from mucaaradka to compete with this xisbi.




Sahal I can live with that. However if either of the following two things happen, I will quit SNET, give up on Somali politics for good:

-Cabdishakur becomes President

-Criminals like Cumar Buur, Sakiin, Cabdishakur gain big roles



I don’t have big issues with Shariif, Culusow.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby Murax » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:11 am

current president will not be back but the pm has big chance if the current parliament is voting. if there is elections it will be based on xisbiyo still the pm will have the biggest party based on his support on the cabinet and the parliament(majority of them)

and here we will have the strongest xisbi from mucaaradka to compete with this xisbi.




Sahal I can live with that. However if either of the following two things happen, I will quit SNET, give up on Somali politics for good:

-Cabdishakur becomes President

-Criminals like Cumar Buur, Sakiin, Cabdishakur gain big roles



I don’t have big issues with Shariif, Culusow.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby Murax » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:11 am

current president will not be back but the pm has big chance if the current parliament is voting. if there is elections it will be based on xisbiyo still the pm will have the biggest party based on his support on the cabinet and the parliament(majority of them)

and here we will have the strongest xisbi from mucaaradka to compete with this xisbi.




Sahal I can live with that. However if either of the following two things happen, I will quit SNET, give up on Somali politics for good:

-Cabdishakur becomes President

-Criminals like Cumar Buur, Sakiin, Cabdishakur gain big roles



I don’t have big issues with Shariif, Culusow.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby sahal80 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:35 am

current president will not be back but the pm has big chance if the current parliament is voting. if there is elections it will be based on xisbiyo still the pm will have the biggest party based on his support on the cabinet and the parliament(majority of them)

and here we will have the strongest xisbi from mucaaradka to compete with this xisbi.




Sahal I can live with that. However if either of the following two things happen, I will quit SNET, give up on Somali politics for good:

-Cabdishakur becomes President

-Criminals like Cumar Buur, Sakiin, Cabdishakur gain big roles



I don’t have big issues with Shariif, Culusow.
No i dont think CC shakur has a chance. xisbiga oppositionka ugu wayn waa madasha sida N&N ay ayagana u kala jabsanyihiin. officially shariif is their candidate and his pm is Juxa from Nugaal, PL. however isku dhaca kheyre iyo Farmaajo aa ayagana kala jabshey. shakur iyo geele kheyreey taageersan yahiin hassan sh iyo sharifna pm keensado uu farmaajo mid walbe ugu sheekeyay laba sano aan ku darsanaa. sharif is resisting more but farah abdulqadir was tellinh hassan sh meeshaan la wareegaynaa sida kheyre waxaan samaynaynaa baarlmaan cusub maamuladana waa la shaqaynaynaa practically farmaajo waxaan ka dhigaunaa fadhiid hadhoow xassanoow adaa soo noqon maamulada ku jecelyihiin sida madoobe iyo deni ninkii hassan ahaa hanqal taag uuba bilaabay shariiif uu uga baxay


Kheyre wuxuu heestaa SAHAN research oo loo xilsaarey inay soo gudbiyaan nooca ugu haboon ee doorasho asagayna ku toloyaan. for example hadii extension dhaco in baarlamaanka bas la siiyo iyo in maamulada dawr ka qaataan sida pl iyo jl oo keenaysa in lala heshiiyo.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby sahal80 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:35 am

current president will not be back but the pm has big chance if the current parliament is voting. if there is elections it will be based on xisbiyo still the pm will have the biggest party based on his support on the cabinet and the parliament(majority of them)

and here we will have the strongest xisbi from mucaaradka to compete with this xisbi.




Sahal I can live with that. However if either of the following two things happen, I will quit SNET, give up on Somali politics for good:

-Cabdishakur becomes President

-Criminals like Cumar Buur, Sakiin, Cabdishakur gain big roles



I don’t have big issues with Shariif, Culusow.
No i dont think CC shakur has a chance. xisbiga oppositionka ugu wayn waa madasha sida N&N ay ayagana u kala jabsanyihiin. officially shariif is their candidate and his pm is Juxa from Nugaal, PL. however isku dhaca kheyre iyo Farmaajo aa ayagana kala jabshey. shakur iyo geele kheyreey taageersan yahiin hassan sh iyo sharifna pm keensado uu farmaajo mid walbe ugu sheekeyay laba sano aan ku darsanaa. sharif is resisting more but farah abdulqadir was tellinh hassan sh meeshaan la wareegaynaa sida kheyre waxaan samaynaynaa baarlmaan cusub maamuladana waa la shaqaynaynaa practically farmaajo waxaan ka dhigaunaa fadhiid hadhoow xassanoow adaa soo noqon maamulada ku jecelyihiin sida madoobe iyo deni ninkii hassan ahaa hanqal taag uuba bilaabay shariiif uu uga baxay


Kheyre wuxuu heestaa SAHAN research oo loo xilsaarey inay soo gudbiyaan nooca ugu haboon ee doorasho asagayna ku toloyaan. for example hadii extension dhaco in baarlamaanka bas la siiyo iyo in maamulada dawr ka qaataan sida pl iyo jl oo keenaysa in lala heshiiyo.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby sahal80 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:35 am

current president will not be back but the pm has big chance if the current parliament is voting. if there is elections it will be based on xisbiyo still the pm will have the biggest party based on his support on the cabinet and the parliament(majority of them)

and here we will have the strongest xisbi from mucaaradka to compete with this xisbi.




Sahal I can live with that. However if either of the following two things happen, I will quit SNET, give up on Somali politics for good:

-Cabdishakur becomes President

-Criminals like Cumar Buur, Sakiin, Cabdishakur gain big roles



I don’t have big issues with Shariif, Culusow.
No i dont think CC shakur has a chance. xisbiga oppositionka ugu wayn waa madasha sida N&N ay ayagana u kala jabsanyihiin. officially shariif is their candidate and his pm is Juxa from Nugaal, PL. however isku dhaca kheyre iyo Farmaajo aa ayagana kala jabshey. shakur iyo geele kheyreey taageersan yahiin hassan sh iyo sharifna pm keensado uu farmaajo mid walbe ugu sheekeyay laba sano aan ku darsanaa. sharif is resisting more but farah abdulqadir was tellinh hassan sh meeshaan la wareegaynaa sida kheyre waxaan samaynaynaa baarlmaan cusub maamuladana waa la shaqaynaynaa practically farmaajo waxaan ka dhigaunaa fadhiid hadhoow xassanoow adaa soo noqon maamulada ku jecelyihiin sida madoobe iyo deni ninkii hassan ahaa hanqal taag uuba bilaabay shariiif uu uga baxay


Kheyre wuxuu heestaa SAHAN research oo loo xilsaarey inay soo gudbiyaan nooca ugu haboon ee doorasho asagayna ku toloyaan. for example hadii extension dhaco in baarlamaanka bas la siiyo iyo in maamulada dawr ka qaataan sida pl iyo jl oo keenaysa in lala heshiiyo. hadii kheyre guuleysto pm will likely be OG as reward for SAHAN. waxaaba la dhahaa xalane saas uu u baneeyay booska si aan loo fahmin.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby Voltage » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:19 am

Murax,

I absolutely agree with you on your points. I guess I was trying to say this;

1. The unity and shared purpose in POLICY and VISION is absolutely a strength and vital to success.

That is not what I am talking about however.

I am taking about diversity in PEOPLE SKILLS aka "interpersonal skills." If someone is hyper, it's good to balance with calm members. If someone is more self-absorbed, it's good to balance with more intuitive members. If extrovert, needsmore laid back members...if very good at details and gets tunnel vision, good to have someone in the team really great at the big picture.

IF YOU HOLD UP YOUR HAND AND LOOK AT FOUR OF YOUR FINGERS, AS DIFFERENT AS THEY ARE IN HEIGHT AND SIZE ARE HUMANS SIMILARLY DIFFERENT.

You can say the same exact thing that is meant to be beneficial to two different people standing right next to each other, and they might perceive it differently based on how you "spoke" or "acted" or "expressed".

2. The reason why I said Farmaajo seems self-absorbed to me and the fact that I can even think that or see that as a member of the public is a failure on the part of his team (either because yes man and won't or not diverse in interprrsonal skills and can't) is because (A.) he has showed shocking level of "hands off/distance" or disregard for mitigating any perceived threat to reconciliaition and (B.) if he couldn't see that, someone in his circle should have stepped in and drilled home that point.

3. I agree with you exactly ON THE DISTINCTION between saboteurs like Abdirahman Abdishakur and the real and credible opposition like Hassan Sheekh/Sheekh Sharif.

When I say I, AS A SUPPORTER OF PRESIDENT FARMAAJO, "perceived" a shocking level of disregard for preventing any threat to reconciliation, I am talking about exactly the failure of Farmaajo to NIP THE HASSAN SHEEKH/SHEEKH SHARIF issue (among others) in the butt and quickly do whatever possible to make the issue about DIFFERENCE IN OPINION not anything remotelt connected to abuse of power or tribalism or any of the issues that fueled the civil war.

Even if Farmaajo WAS TOO PROUD to do it, his pride should have been sacrificed for the good of advancing reconciliation.

Unfortunately, I think isolating the failute to "public relations" is underestimating the existential threat presented by threats to reconciliation for Somalia in particular.

Truthfully I have not been happy or satisfied by Farmaajo's handling of various number of occurrences of this nature and I think it has been his single greatest deficit.

Everything in moderation is always the best. Too hands on and micromanaging is stiffling and too hands off and aloof is literally being absent.

4. Finally, the troops thing; Jowhar and Balcad were LIBERATED and among the first places outside of Mogadishu. For 10 YEARS, 10 GOD DAMN YEARS, the so called army was primarily in the Benadir Region. I mean really put this into perspective. In 2030, is the army only supposed to STILL BE IN BENADIR?

As you know SECURITY REFORM is the single biggest legacy of this government. Security reform is more than just fighting. It is also about STRATEGY. Extensive RESEARCH has found two major reasons for Al Shabaab's persistence in the center of the country...a sort of triangle between Kismaayo -Baidoa -Ceelbuur.

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A. FIRST REASON is the amount of diversity of clans, dialects, and even societies (practically all so called "minority groups" from Somali Bantu to farming cooperatives) present that feel EXCLUDED and MARGINALIZED. They are the biggest source of fighters and recruiters and even safe havens for Shabab. These people have EQUALITY and even dignity to be honest under Shabab who make no distinction based on all the whimsical social conditions we have put in place here on earth. The Somali Bantu or Eyle boy is the same as the Abgaal or Hawiye boy in the neighborhood. Maybe even more important on account of Shabaab dependent on the minority communities. These is why EVERYTIME THOSE AREAS WERE "CAPTURED, " THEY FELL BACK TO Shabaab the minute AMISOM and SNA moved on. That is because there is a POLITICAL AND SOCIO-CULTURAL more unique and prevalent here separate than all the other issues that were feeding insecurity generally.

2. The other reason is THE LANDSCAPE BELONGED TO SHABAAB AND NOT THE SNA AND AMISOM. Picture this when police come to a crime scene, what is the first thing they say?

100% every single time the first step is always "SPREAD OUT, SEAL OFF THE PERIMETER.

If you don't have the perimeters, what is the SCENE in CRIME SCENE? What is the ZONE in BATTLE ZONE? It is ridiculous just how much money, time, and resources have been wasted on such a predictable failure.

You control the perimeters and YOU CONTROL THE LANDSCAPES. You have the access points, the supply lines, you are always in offense NOT defense.

The perimeter has to be controlled from Central Somalia to Beled-Weyne to Bakool to Beled-Xaawo to Ceel-Waaq to Diif to Kismaayo to the Indian Ocean going up coast to Barawe to Mogadishu to Hobyo.

Once the perimeter is full under control, the SNA will move from EVERY SINGLE DIRECTION WITH SHABAAB NOWHERE TO RUN, ESCAPE, GET BACK UP, HIDE.

This time when the heartland is CAPTURED, the government also has a very strong and equitable INCLUSIVE STABILIZATION program.

Central Somalia and Gedo are really just the GUINEA PIGS to taste the program out in less challenging condition (the area in central Somalia it has been tested is practically all Habar Gidir and Gedo is practically all Marehan).

The REAL challenge will be the "Gosha" area of Jubbaland (from Jamame and Jilib to Saakoow), the two Shabelle regions (Lower and Middle Shabelle) and the Hiran Region with the entire half west of the Shabelle River.

It is going to be very rocky interesting to see how this goes.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby Voltage » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:52 am

I made it a topic as an example of the need for accountability even those we support

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby gobdoon » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:58 am

Question is do you want some one , group or whatever who can fix the nation or you are selfish and short sighted and you want some one from your Qabiil who steals the property of the whole nation for you and your Qabiil
Come on what century do we live yet all of you live and are begging in the West yet you want to increase the struggle and the suffering of the nation
My to fingers are up as fuck you

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Postby gobdoon » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:58 am

Question is do you want some one , group or whatever who can fix the nation or you are selfish and short sighted and you want some one from your Qabiil who steals the property of the whole nation for you and your Qabiil
Come on what century do we live yet all of you live and are begging in the West yet you want to increase the struggle and the suffering of the nation
My to fingers are up as fuck you

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Postby gobdoon » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:58 am

Question is do you want some one , group or whatever who can fix the nation or you are selfish and short sighted and you want some one from your Qabiil who steals the property of the whole nation for you and your Qabiil
Come on what century do we live yet all of you live and are begging in the West yet you want to increase the struggle and the suffering of the nation
My to fingers are up as fuck you

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby sahal80 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:07 pm

im gonna drop a bomb here for my lovely followers!

Tomorrow there will be heshiis in Nairobi between Ahmed Madoobe who arrived yesterday (his vice president was there for talks with the opposition) and his OG opponents. battle was already won.
there is a wave of inter subclan reconciliations in this kalaguur time. After HG reconciliation we gonna see OG reconciliation. dhanaan posted this 30 mins ago.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby barbarossa » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:14 pm

A silverback imported deep from the jungles of central Africa would be my ideal candidate to occupy Villa Somalia. Sadly for me, the only primates in this farce of a selection, are bunch of corrupted, unprincipled Skinnies.

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Re: Who would you like to see win in Somalia elections 2021

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:19 pm

A silverback imported deep from the jungles of central Africa would be my ideal candidate to occupy Villa Somalia. Sadly for me, the only primates in this farce of a selection, are bunch of corrupted, unprincipled Skinnies.
Bishop Barbarossa

Are you speaking of Deni whose ancestors hail from Sofala Mozambique? He fits the bill and only he can climb the roof of Villa Somalia and beat his chest as he roars down from the palace on the hill: “King Kong ain’t got shit on me, who want test me!!”

Deni 2020!!!


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