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Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby Nubis » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:09 am

Ok.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby paperino » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:06 pm

Update:

A new phenomena has started in Somalia; accountability.
1. EEDAYSANAHA 1AAD: C/llaahi Xaashi Cali Ina Khadiijo Xaaji Maxamed Xersi 61 jir ah Ku Dhashay Hiiraan Dagan Degmada Xamar-Weyne, ahna Agaasimaha Guud Wasaaradda Caafimaadka DFS Kuna Eeedaysan QODOBADA 241, 363, 366, 375, 376-/71 XCS,

MAXKAMADDU waxa ay ku heshay Qodobada 241(XATOOYO XOOLO DADWEYNE) iyo 363 XCS, waxa ayna Ku xukuntay 9 sano oo xadhig ah Iyo Ganaax Lacageed oo ah, SH.SO 59,173,000 (KONTON iyo SAGAAL MALYAN, BOQOL TODDOBAATAN IYO SADDEX KUN, shilin Som) Una dhiganta $2,366 dollar. Xukunka waxaa wehelinaya Ka reebista Xafiis Dadweyne sida ku xusan Qodobada.101/102 XCS.

2. EEDAYSANAHA 2AAD: Maxamuud Buule Maxamuud Ina Binti Shiikh Nuur Maxamed 52 jir ah ku dhashay Xamar, Degan wadajir ahna Agaaasimaha Waaxda Maamulka iyo Maaliyadda ee Wasaaradda caafimaadka DFS Kuna Eeedaysan QODOBADA 241, 363 366, 375, 376-/71 XCS,

MAXKAMADDU waxa ay ku heshay, Qodobada 241(XATOOYO XOOLO DADWEYNE) iyo Qodobada 363,366, 375, waxayna ku xukuntay 18 sano oo xadhig ah iyo Ganaax Lacageed oo ah 59,173, 000 SH.SO (KONTON IYO SAGAAL MALYAN, BOQOL TODDOBAATAN IYO SADDEX KUN, shilin Som) Una dhiganta $2,366 dollar. Xukunka waxaa wehelinaya Ka reebista Xafiis Dadweyne sida ku xusan Qodobada101/102 XCS.
https://www.caasimada.net/maxkamadda-g- ... afimaadka/
The outcome of this case completely surprised me, as I never expected those corrupt officials would be indicted & sentenced. Props to xeer ilaaliyaha qaranka, maxkamadda Banaadir & Farmaajo's administration. :up:

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby Voltage » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:51 pm

Peperino,

The lesson to draw is even more acute when you take stock of just how intensely pressured Farmaajo was to intercede and quietly dismiss everything.

Abdullahi Hashi, the sentenced Director-General, is Darod/Marehan. In fact, his mother's family is rer Xaaji Massale. Former strongman Gen Omar Haji Massale who was essentially supreme leader of the Marehan clan after Siad Barre, is the older brother of his mother.

I don't not speak to the guilt or innocence of the man (and in fact, to be honest, I have seen no evidence of a justice system at all----sentencing with guilty is not evidence of a justice system I should say), but the fact that there was an arrest, a charge, and a guilty sentence purely taken as a matter of process and possible outcome let alone THE outcome---says a 100% more what this reflects about Farmaajo individually and the accountability he espouses.

He was under, and is probably under, extreme pressure by Marehan to intercede in the issue with Abdullahi Hashi Darood.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby XimanJaale » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:23 pm

Good job... Lock them all up. Don't care if they are Marehan or my relative. A thief is thief, specially thieving from the state. Thieving from the state means thieving from the public. Since the state is the servant of the public.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby Murax » Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:52 am

Good job... Lock them all up. Don't care if they are Marehan or my relative. A thief is thief, specially thieving from the state. Thieving from the state means thieving from the public. Since the state is the servant of the public.
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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:00 am

It's all a smokescreen. Just small fishes. The real tuugo are the ministers, mps, president etc.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby Nomand » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:34 am

you have abdishukur, sharmake and sharif walking free while they sold somali seas to Kenya. You have warlords and ex shababists in the Parliament.

MX cannot accept this crap in the name of dowladnimo when no one else follows the rules, just because Farmaajo is the president does not mean we should be judged differently to the norms of society.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby XimanJaale » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:06 am

you have abdishukur, sharmake and sharif walking free while they sold somali seas to Kenya. You have warlords and ex shababists in the Parliament.

MX cannot accept this crap in the name of dowladnimo when no one else follows the rules, just because Farmaajo is the president does not mean we should be judged differently to the norms of society.
Marehan ain't the only clan that was sentenced for this crime. The other men are from all other clans.

Besides, how many non-Marehans have been jailed by Farmaajo admin many. Heck even when Farmaajo was Prime Minister he jailed that famous Abgaal donkey that was AY lackey. Maxamed Dheere you don't remember him? Or the time when Farmaajo got the police force to knock the shit out of the Indha Cadde and his crooks or the time when Abdishakhur house got raided.

You got selective memory sxb. Calm down

MAREEXAAN are not innocent people too. We have our bad apples and we should always lock them up not the sake of Somali nation building but for our own sake as a clan.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby XimanJaale » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:08 am

It's all a smokescreen. Just small fishes. The real tuugo are the ministers, mps, president etc.
I like how you put president at the end of your sentence.

Waryaa abgaal donkey, the biggest tuugo waa la yaqaan and you need to accept this, they will never set foot into villa Somalia ever again ;)

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby dalalos101 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:41 am

you have abdishukur, sharmake and sharif walking free while they sold somali seas to Kenya. You have warlords and ex shababists in the Parliament.

MX cannot accept this crap in the name of dowladnimo when no one else follows the rules, just because Farmaajo is the president does not mean we should be judged differently to the norms of society.
Do you think a corrupt crook is going to dig wells and build hospitals for you ? do you even know the information before you jump up and down for this individual ? apparently the money he stole was meant for Gedo region covid-19 emergency response, I cannot stand uninformed people.

furthermore Khayre was keeping him locked up in his basement as a trump card to use against Farmaajo and turn Beesha Sade against Farmaajo, but Farmaajo is no BS character, he asked him for the money back and when he failed, and Beesha kept asking for justice, he was released and put on trial to face justice, now the investigation is over and justice is over, you won't hear Beesha Sade support this guy, heavyweight political elements within Farmaajo's own juffo wanted to use this Gulled Farah guy against Farmaajo.

anyway I am glad he was sentenced along with the other culprits who were involved and leading this theft, hence their sentencing more than double.

Nomand blind Mareexaanimo is stupid, there is a reason why we oppose people like Janan and Fartaag, this character does not represent MX wuu na ceebeye, and what is worse is he was stealing from Gedo with his co-conspirators.

the only thing I agree with you on is there are indeed far worse corrupt officials and former officials walking around free in Mogadishu, and yes some of them are in the Parliament.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby Nomand » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:58 am

i am well aware of the case, and there is zero evidence that he stole anything. i know people that directly spoke to him before and after his arrest.

so don't come to me with fairy tale of he stole stuff meant for Gedo, when Gedo specially buurdoobe is under the jurisdiction of trocaire NGO. they are the NGO that said they spent 900k on buurdhoobe hospital and they don't even have a single hut to show for it.

i am all for sending a tuug to prison, but come with evidence. money was eaten alright but it was consumed by his higher ups in the government and the NGO.

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby Voltage » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:06 pm

Strangely, it is probably the first time I enthusiastically, even militantly back Nomand.

For context, previous views;
None of that takes away from the actual credit for security reform, financial reform, and the debt relief,etg being this government. And the next government will have these in place so they can bring JUSTICE REFORM (THE NEXT BIG REFORM WAITING IN MY OPINION---OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS ABSOLUTELY NONEXISTENT.

All of that is explained by Due Process
Sxb if you have seen me use the word equity then anyone educated in conflict resolution will immediately understand I came to the discussion with complete transparency and interest not in WIN OR LOSE but EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW.[/size]
Without DUE PROCESS, there is no justice. NONE.

This very second if someone gets into a car right here where I am and they are inebriated, NO COP CAN ARREST THEM WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE. If arrest starts everything in criminal procedure...followed by charges are filed, then arraignment before a Magistrate/Judge, pretrial, trial, sentencing, appeal etc etc etc.

EVEN BEFORE ARREST, THERE HAS TO BE PROBABLE CAUSE.

THAT PROBABLE CAUSE HAS TO REFLECT DUE PROCESS OR EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

Even If the cop finds the most damning evidence in the course of the arrest, if it resulted from infringing on my Due Process,if he stopped me WITHOUT legitimate PROBABLE CAUSE---whatevrr found should legally be impermissible obtained through ILLEGAL SEARCH AND SEIZURE. THE CASE MUST BE DISMISSED. THIS IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL APPEAL CATEGORY THROUGHOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS THE WORLD OVER.

A law is a law when it is applied equally, selective law is Tyranny

The very definition of Discrimination as legal burden is explained that way


So my position is in Somalia today there are three main legal blackholes affecting justice reform

1. The nature of what do about gross human rights abuses in the civil war (aka warlords amd armed combatants)
2. The nature of financial mechanisms underpining the occurrence of the gross human rights abuses (war merchants, war profiteers, human smugglers, traffickers)
3. The nature of endemic, even SYSTEMIC, graft/corruption predicated on the theft of public handouts to Somalia's needy

With all of these, I add the caveat "allegedly'

On the first, it seems we are passive aggressively ignoring closure. Notice I am not even saying accountability. I am saying closure. It is obvious as a people we have decided not to purse the warlords as a criminal matter. That is fine with me, in fact I am of the opinion it is for the best. Well no one sat in official capacity staring directly into the eyes of the nation and has yet told us straight "this is concluded." South Africa forgave too, but south Africa bad Truth and Reconciliation process. This issue aint over aka "closed" until we have seen and heard directly a closure.

2. on the second, it doesn't seem as they are bring forgiven at all and interestingly almost all of this category is similar ignored amd undercover with the exception of the Pirates who incidentally are facing foreign courts when caught.

3. Now the last which Mr Hashi is accused of. I am not saying the man is innocent, he may be as guilty as charged---but where is the due process for graft when PUBLIC MONEY is being exchanged right this minute concerning the naming of prime minister. i mean just think about this for a second---and for those who think "well at least he has been taken" NO. NO YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN AT A RUDIMENTARY LEVEL WHAT LAW AND JUSTICE IS. THE TAKE AWAY IS THE INVERSE. HASHI SHOULD ACTUALLY BE FREED FROM THAT COMPULSION IF GRAFT IS HAPPENING IN THE SAME GOVERNMENT, AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS WITH IMPUNITY. THE IMPLICATION ISN'T WELL "AT LEAST SOMEONE" ---THE IMPLICATION IS THEN "NO ONE" SHOULD BE COMPELLED BY THAT TYRANNY FOR LAW WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OR SELECTIVELY APPLIED IS NO LAW, IT IS TYRANNY.

Finally, with the warlords, though we seem to have forgiven them even with or without closure, WARLORDISM HAS STOPPED. There is no place where it is accepted or is in force now let alone is a SYSTEMIC problem. Even with people like Madoobe or others..the effect some guys have is akin to warlordism BUT THEIR LEGITIMACY EMANATES FROM RECOGNIZED PARTICIPATION IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. THE DISTINCTION IS LEGALLY BINDING.

Graft/corruption on the other hand hasn't stopped. Not only has it not stopped but it is SO SYSTEMIC, SO PERVERSE, SO IN YOUR FACE, AND SO ENTRENCHED AT THE HIGHEST TO THE LOWEST LEVEL

... ANY ATTEMPT OF THAT SAME SYSTEM TO MAKE A MOCKERY OF THE RULE OF LAW BY IMPOSING SELECTIVE COMPULSION IS BY ITS NATURE TYRANNICAL AND OPPRESSIVE.


The only reason the case of Abdullahi Hashi is even possible is because there is one other scapegoat and he just happens to have a different clan which is a mild little dressing on the selective compulsion

YAAQ SADE FUULIN LAWAA🌴

Reer Guuleed Faarax niman maaha haday Abdullahi Xaashi Daarood sow dhacsan waayaan


If Reer Guuleed Faarax can't, then Reer Faarax Ugaas

If Reer Faarax Ugaas fail, then nimanka reer Khalaf Xussein

If Khalaf Xussein fail, then nimanka Maxamed Daauud,

Then nimanka Raad-Amiir, then nimanka Gaal-Shireedle

If Gaalshireedle fails, then waa hawl SADE meel alle meeluu doonaba ha joogee🧨

EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW, NO TO SELECTIVE LAW
FOR SELECTIVE LAW IS NO LAW AT ALL BUT TYRANNY


HIS MATERNAL GRANDFATHER XAAJI MASSALE CAME TO GEDO ON HORSEBACK HARDLY STOPPING HIS GALLOP

AFTER SPITTING AT ITALIAN COLONIAL DICTATE IMPOSED THROUGH THE ONE 4X4 STONE SHED IN HOBYO THEY CALLED THE HOBYO SULTANATE WHOSE ONLY PURPOSE WAS STORING THE GUNS ITALY USED TO POSSESS THE INTERIOR

XAAJI MASSALE TOLD CALI YUUSUF KEENADIID TO STEP ASIDE WITH THE BARREL OF A STOLEN GUN

THEN HIM AND HIS BAND OF SADE SARMALEY RAIDED THE ENTIRE STOCK

SOMEN THEY THREW TO HABAR GIDIR ON THE PATH OF THEIR RUN TO MAREHAN COUNTRY WHERE XAAJI MASSALE DROPPED THE REST ON MAREHAN AND SAID

"I DON'T WANT TOEVER HEAR ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN CONVERTED EVEN IF THEY CONVERT THE WHOLE LAND"

HIM AND THE BRIGANDS THEN GOT ON THEIR HORSES AND HARDLY STOPPED EVEN FOR WATER IN THEIR GALLOP TO DIIRHARA, OR THE LARGE CAMEL GRAZING PLATEAU BETWEEN GARBAHAARAY AND LUUQ


NO BLOOD OF XAAJI MASSALE IS GOING TO BE SELECTIVELY COMPELLED IN THESE SAND DUNES OF SOMALIA,

ACCUSATION IS FAIR, BUT YOU DARN WELL GOING TO APPLY THE SAME STANDARD TO THE SAME ACCUSING SYSTEM

THE ONLY REASON IT EVEN COULD HAPPEN IS BECAUSE OF THE REER SHIIL, CABDILLE ALLAMAGAN PRESIDENT AND I THINK HE MADE A GRAVE MISTAKE ON THIS ONE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO VILLA SOMALIA

FARMAAJO DOESN'T LIKE MAREHAN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HIM, WELL HE SHOULDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MAREHAN

BECAUSE UNDER NO OTHER "LEADER" WOULD SELECTIVELY LYNCHING MAREHAN STAND

HE IS A SOMALI PRESIDENT RIGHT, NOT A MAREHAN PRESIDENT I HEARD.

WELL MAREHAN IS A SOMALI CLAN, NOT A PRESIDENT'S CLAN

AND WE DARN WELL EXPECT AT THE MINIMUM THE SAME TREATMENT AS ALL OTHER CLANS

NOT A PENNY LESS

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby AbkoowDhiblaawe » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:59 pm

It's all a smokescreen. Just small fishes. The real tuugo are the ministers, mps, president etc.
I like how you put president at the end of your sentence.

Waryaa abgaal donkey, the biggest tuugo waa la yaqaan and you need to accept this, they will never set foot into villa Somalia ever again ;)
Is he your father wecel yahow?

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby paperino » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 pm

anyway I am glad he was sentenced along with the other culprits who were involved and leading this theft, hence their sentencing more than double.
I've noticed that. How is Maxamuud Buule Maxamuud's crime more severe?

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Re: Finance Director Of Somali Ministry Of Health Just Arrested For Corruption

Postby Somaliweeyn007 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:23 pm

you have abdishukur, sharmake and sharif walking free while they sold somali seas to Kenya. You have warlords and ex shababists in the Parliament.

MX cannot accept this crap in the name of dowladnimo when no one else follows the rules, just because Farmaajo is the president does not mean we should be judged differently to the norms of society.
Marehan ain't the only clan that was sentenced for this crime. The other men are from all other clans.

Besides, how many non-Marehans have been jailed by Farmaajo admin many. Heck even when Farmaajo was Prime Minister he jailed that famous Abgaal donkey that was AY lackey. Maxamed Dheere you don't remember him? Or the time when Farmaajo got the police force to knock the shit out of the Indha Cadde and his crooks or the time when Abdishakhur house got raided.

You got selective memory sxb. Calm down

MAREEXAAN are not innocent people too. We have our bad apples and we should always lock them up not the sake of Somali nation building but for our own sake as a clan.
What other tribes implicated in this?


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