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Dollo demystified by a True Native

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The real story of Dollo demystified- the 7 Wells and Seven Facts
1. If you claim to settle in Dollo or Doollo, you have to know the famous seven wells that encompass the name Doollo. These are Afyaraado, Garloogube, Ubataale, Waaf-Dhuug, Walwaal, Wardheer and Yucub. All of these wells are Degal Makaahiil. Doollo was also known for hosting one of the biggest Dervish bases. Many people believe Ogaden supported Dervish movement, and that is far from the reality. Only Makaahiil and Bahgeri were the two biggest OG dervish members. They lost so much for the struggle.
2. Being the capital, the most populous city, and the most famous city of the entire DDS, Wardheer and Doollo in general is blessed with plenty of water and beautiful grazing lands. Prior to the Tigree administration, Doollo was known as Warheer and its surrounding famous wells.
3. Geladi was not even part of the Doollo region. The Meles and Ileey administration came up with the idea of expanding Dollo to include Geladi in order to collectively punish the Makaahiil. Before Meles and even during the cruel DERG administration, almost all the governors of the region were Makaahiil. Suldaan Cali Saafi, who was Abraahiim, was the longest serving governor.
4.I see many of our Dhabayaco folks creating phony maps that claim Danood and Daratoole are not Makaahiil. That is preposterous. Nin aan nabad iyo xidid ku imaanin dhulkaas ma imaan karo. Walee waa yaab, sheekadii Kismaayo ayay meesha keeneen. War hooy ka jooga. Maxamed Cumar Dagge yuusan idin maqlin. Waxba isma bedalin.
Ogaadeen Danood iyo Dig iyo, durugsay ceelkii dhe
Iidoor dalaalsimo kawaa, Doolo iyo Ciid dhe
Daratoole iyo Faafan baa, daakhilkii yahay dhe
Deegaanta Iligeedne waa, dagal Makaahiil dhe
Deris nimaan kujooginina waa, daaqi Xodayood dhe


5. Galxumur and Bookh were Cabdi-Ileey project again to punish Makaahiil and reduce their influence. Neither of those deserves to be a district. Remember that Makaahiil is synonymous with ONLF. In 1993, when Sheekh Cabdallae, one of the greatest ONLF leaders, fled from Qabridahar and Godey, and came to Wardher on his way to flee the country, the local Makaahiils told him “Dude you aint going nowhere, this is your country”. Over 81 Makaahiils lost their lives in that infamous Wardher battle against the federal Meles regime forces who tried to capture the leader. Now you can see why our region, of all the sudden, is like a biatch everyone wants to grab a piece. We lost so much because of our dedication to the cause and ONLF.

6. Danod, Shilaabo, Caabud-Waaq, and the border of Qoraxeey all average about 100 KM from Wardheer. If you look at this map, you can see that the Harti land starts from Gelaadi and yes sometimes you can go all the way to near Wardher for Daaqsin, but they doesn’t mean you can claim anything beyond Gelaadi. This map is actually from the Human Rights Watch who have lots of information including live satellite images and you can see how they specifically pointed out the Harti territories in Doollo.
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Here is the original source of the image
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files ... 0608_1.pdf

7. Final word for my Harti folks, we actually do not mind you to live with us and share resources. If you look back my history on Somalinet for the last 13 years, you would notice that I have always championed for Harti presence in Waamo. When most OGs wanted all Hartis out, I reminded them that these folks are natives just like us. I call it when I see it. However, and unfortunately, you have miserably failed the issue of Doollo. I remember when this Reer Biciid Yahan person was named as the governor, a sub clan of Makaahiil, Gumcalde called Ismaaciil Gumcalde demonstrated against his appointment. Their grief centered two issues; one they did not get any ministerial seats in the DDS government and their governor was replaced with Reer Biciid yahan person, and second, the dude was Ileey hardcore Heego member. What happened next become a lesson for us. Being true their sensationalism personality, the Dhabayoco around the world started a campaign against Madoobe, Cagjar, and even the powerful OGs in NFD. Moreover, notice how I have completely ignored the Caabud-Waaq crew, and the reason is they are irrelevant in Doollo affairs. They settle view villages along the border near Caabud-Waaq and we have no issues with that. If I were to be too generous on Harti presence in Doollo, I would put their percentage at 10% at most. I would say the other non-Makaahiil natives of Doollo to be about 5%. So you have about 15% of non Makaahiil in Doollo.
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Re: Dollo demystified by a True Native

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Guhad,


This topic is not for Majerten; they are simply the means to an end.

The reason you do that----is because you have been living a lie. That's the saddest thing in life; to live a lie.

For over 80+ years (EIGHTY YEARS), the majority community of that land has been at a state of war with Ethiopia.

They never ONCE wanted to join Ethiopia. They never asked for a SINGLE representation. They never ONCE even bothered to contest their equity.

You have literally been eating 3 1/2 times the size of your equity without a single, even cursory, moment for accountability.

Your entire false narrative about deegaan hebel and false constituencies are part of that discredited narrative. It sounds nice---on paper leaflet in your kitchen.

But when the man who owns the land asks for deeds, leaflet is nothing. You will need particular kind paper; one you have never owned because to have a deed, it must actually be established to be your land.

70% of that land is settled by the real target of your fears---------and they settle it to this very day

THIS VERY DAY.

And don't you worry, because the young Ugaas has been actively canvassing his community and we know just whose camels are where.

I always tell my clan; you lost no land in Dhusamareb or other false reinventions.

The road Barre built is the line the Italians made is the boundary Marehan chose is the point where the Hawd grass ends and grazing is no more.

That line is still what it was 120 years ago and the few wells like Mareerguur and Cadaado at the periphery of where the change happens between Hawd grass and the Aduun grass were abandoned---literally recorded by the Italians.

Murax's Cali Hussein and Dollow, Gedo's reer Axmed and reer Shirwac of Ugas Shermarke were there---only to abandon it for the Galti migration. These guys are 100% reer Gedo today.

And in Sinadhaqo (where the Italians built their station they called Dhusamareb) is where my reer Siyaad, especially reer Cigaal Siyaad and Ciroobe Siyaad where, before they joined the Galti migration a 120 years ago.

If Marehan lost land, he lost in the West. He lost it in the West.

Forget even folks like me whose sub-clan is called REER ABAAR UFULE oo inta lagu dhaafo my Muuse Gumcadle friend, is right now in the middle of nimankaas Ugaas Nuur.

Forget even Shilaabo iyo wax kale, TODAY what they have is pretty much 70% of the land you claim.
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I will give you a longet response by tonight, but in the meantime I will look into some of my small map collection and give you something more interesting to look at than MS Paint doodles.
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Doollo home to ogaden's fiercest warriors.

btw @guhad, congrat on the new suldaan.

hope makahiil continue teaching the usual suspect a lesson. :lol:

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Isaaq Majeerteen,Mareexaan,Dhulbahante,Leelkase,Ogaaden,Geri Koombe and Awrtable all settle in Doollo laakin waaloo kala badanyahay.

Doollo waa intaan

Bookh Districts
oo ay Majeerteen iyo Dhulbahante dagto

Bookh (Majeerteen)
Saaxdheer (Dhulbahante)
Cagaare waala wada dagaa
Maygaagle waala wada dagaa
Magacley (Majeeteen)
Gumburka waala wada dagaa

Galaadi waa MJ
Galaadi town waa MJ
Dudub waa MJ
Mareexaan meeshay ka dagaan ha sheegaan fadlan

Wardheer waa OG/MJ

Miirkhalifo MJ
Wardheer town 2 xaafad waxaa daga OG kaligood
1 xaafad is MJ but OG waa joogaan
1 xaafad is abit of MJ but reer abayoonis and og baa ku badan

Daratoole waa OG and wax yaroo MJ

Danood waa OG and abit of Dhulo and Isaaq



* Daarood haduu Damac idinka yeelo*

* waa Daratooliyo Dooliyo Hawdee*

* waa Dogobiyo Saxdheer dagaladiisiye*

* waa Darsinkii Waamiyo Nugaal Degaanadisiye*


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Re: Dollo demystified by a True Native

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^ I think you missed his points. The 7 wells that make up the what was called doolo then is in the hands of ogaden today.
no one is denying that other clans live there as most somali live with each other everywhere, however, ogaden being the outright majority is not in doubt.

don't let mustafe's appointment of your adeer as governor fool you.
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To OG,

OG don’t fall into a trap. You don’t entertain BS.
Talking to a OG about Galbeed is like talking to a MJ about PL. Its like talking to a isaaq about SL.

To MJ/MX,

Don’t squabble be happy OG rule. They represent us.
This is about geopolitics.

To voltage,

Sxb I don’t want to be rude but you need to stop living in Ivory towers.
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Re: Dollo demystified by a True Native

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STARKAST wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:04 pm To OG,

OG don’t fall into a trap. You don’t entertain BS.
Talking to a OG about Galbeed is like talking to a MJ about PL. Its like talking to a isaaq about SL.

To MJ/MX,

Don’t squabble be happy OG rule. They represent us.
This is about geopolitics.

To voltage,

Sxb I don’t want to be rude but you need to stop living in Ivory towers.
No, it just seems like NO ONE WHO IS SOMALI KNOWS SOMALI HISTORY.

Forgive me if that seems arrogant and even ridiculous not mention arrogant or delusional, but that's the truth.

For example,

This whole 7 wells of Dollo as the beginning of anything is embarrassingly juvenile, surface, even shockingly uninformed if not misinformed.

You also do not know the issue either.

I did not know.

But now I know things like b]NOT ONLY[/b] is it completely true and verifiable that Britain moved Marehan back from Wajeer and specifically designed the border of Jubbaland to keep them out---

---but Britain was intent on moving MOHAMED SUBER AND AWLYAHAN across the boundary as well. They said the Talamuga are cow herders and smaller dispersed next to Orma using the Tana R. But these two, they need to go just like their cousin.


Literally dude, two things no Somali has ever confirmed or written.

Marehan one was always part of Marehan oral history, but it was the "way sheegeen so now let's move on because there is no proof."

I haven not evem come across a single piece of Somali history oral or otherwise about Britain's disclosure of their intent with the bulk of Ogaden in NFD. Imagine that something so profound and consequential was not ever known.

And who do I know? Because now we are getting access to Italian side. Do you notice the single most consequential perspective for Somalis was the Italian one as the power over the base and bulk of Somalis.

Now we have access to the personal records of Governo Somalia Italiana in Mog and Ministry of Afari Eastri (pb bad spl) where the Governor was relaying the negotiations and discussions and Foreign Minister was giving clarifications and red lines.

Rome.seeks SPECIFIC clarification whether the Rumours about Marehan are true and not only is it true, but Britian confirms they intend to not stop there but move out Mohamed Suber and Awlyahan as well before treaty is finalized.

Long story but Italy said and Britain said no to Marehan cross the boundary for water then so even.when there was drought the Italian government had to cross the boundary amd bring water TO Marehan.

And Italy obviously wasn't doing that for jacayl and care.

Rome had the bulk and base of Somalis. It just got bigger with Jubbaland because of that.

The Somalis in NFD made her chances of growth bigger so she didn't want to argue to losing her trump card.

So any ways to get back to story, how can I literally summarize this issue of hawd to an extent where I not only show the whole Guba series was not only one of the small extentions of the Tripartitie border issue (Italy, Ethiopia, Britain) but that it is heavily

-decontextualized
-completely historically revised during the post-War/Italian defeat
-and it is further shrouded in myth like so many of our oral histories that we have completely redesigned the original equities.

Wells are IRRELEVANT to Wardheer.

Wardheer's relavance is GRAZING.

Not only grazing since it is dry, dead, and without water in the dry season (jiilaal), but grazing in the WET (Gu) when it blooms.

The reason you will just be floored when you understand it.

1. Isaaq are completely irrelevant to Hawd as a historical matter and perhaps even in the future if climate change gets worse. Yes i know Gashaamo, Marsin, etc. They didn't exist even as direction points before the British. They are an example of forcing nature to be honest with the development of water catchments (barkad).

2. Makaahiil's place or settlement is a reflection of weaker status within Ogaadeen. They also when the Euros got there were completely dependent on Marehan for DRY SEASON GRAZING when the Hawd dries. Makaahiil originally would come as far as Gallijeer (previous Balanbale wells) and Bali Cad and Abdi Cali (previous Caabudwaaq) and take advantage of Marehan's S PERMENANT WELLS. Today they head north to Danood since the British because of water catchements (Berkad).

3. GAALAADI is more important, weighs 1000× more in value than those 7 wells he listed.

LISTEN TO ME AND LISTEN VERY CLOSE

There is no permenant well between GALAADI AND WARANDHAAB.

Warandhaab (dried now) is between DHAGAXBUUR AND QABRI DAHARE.

The longest stretch and most depended on permanent wells in the entire Somali eastern peninsula is a MOON CRESCENT SHAPED HALF CIRCLE THAT WENT

BUUHOODLE TO BACAADWEYN TO GAALKACYO (GALAADI SAME PARALLEL) TO MAREERGUUR TO SINADHAQO.

Mareerguur which included Cadaado dried (like Warandhaab) and so did Sinadhaqo (today's Dhusamareeb).

So Marehan dug Abdi Cali (the single most productive well in the Somali territories today) and dug Gallijeer (today's Balanbale).

In addition, Marehan had Safsaf, Golweyn, and Raqo (the single biggest BALI happens here in the entire hawd) and finally Marehan had the ceel THEY STILL SWEAR ON TODAY AND WHICH NO ONE HAD EVEM EVER TRIED TO CONTEST CUZ THEY KNOW MAREHAN WOULD SACRIFICE HALF OF THE TRIBE TO HOLD IT.

That well is CILAANLE, the ONLY PERMENANT BORHOLE IN THE VICINITY OR WARDHEER.

A borehole is not a DEEP well, it is shallow. It takes long time to water camels but it is good for short grazing slowrt animals like goats and is good to base the family and women get water.

It is the ONLY PERMANENT BOREHOLE.

Now Majeerteen had from Gaalkacyo to Galaadi BOTH LIKE BALANBALE AND CAABUDWAAQ to be permanent wells.q

So between Galaadi going west there is no other permenant well until you got to Warandhaab.

And in a norwest to southeast direction there is no permenant well between Cilaanle and Burco.

Not a single one. In fact I have records of the British attempt to dig A BOREHOLE fo HY and they failed three times.

Isaaq literally used to descend in barely during the Wet Season andgo back quickly to Burco or Oodweyn since they had no permanent water.

The couldn't even drill a bore hole.

So what they made is berkad or water catchment and which is both not permenant and you can't graze far although water is dependable if conserved. This is how "settlements" like Misrak Gashaamo popped up----and why they will pop back down in the future. It's not environmentally feasible.

As for Makaahiil, I will save this for another post so Guhad has time to reevaluate what he actually knows about BANAANKA.
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DalJecel60 wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:20 pm Isaaq Majeerteen,Mareexaan,Dhulbahante,Leelkase,Ogaaden,Geri Koombe and Awrtable all settle in Doollo laakin waaloo kala badanyahay.

Doollo waa intaan

Bookh Districts
oo ay Majeerteen iyo Dhulbahante dagto

Bookh (Majeerteen)
Saaxdheer (Dhulbahante)
Cagaare waala wada dagaa
Maygaagle waala wada dagaa
Magacley (Majeeteen)
Gumburka waala wada dagaa

Galaadi waa MJ
Galaadi town waa MJ
Dudub waa MJ
Mareexaan meeshay ka dagaan ha sheegaan fadlan

Wardheer waa OG/MJ

Miirkhalifo MJ
Wardheer town 2 xaafad waxaa daga OG kaligood
1 xaafad is MJ but OG waa joogaan
1 xaafad is abit of MJ but reer abayoonis and og baa ku badan

Daratoole waa OG and wax yaroo MJ

Danood waa OG and abit of Dhulo and Isaaq



* Daarood haduu Damac idinka yeelo*

* waa Daratooliyo Dooliyo Hawdee*

* waa Dogobiyo Saxdheer dagaladiisiye*

* waa Darsinkii Waamiyo Nugaal Degaanadisiye*


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Majeerteen is found in Xaafad labaad and they share with several Makaahiil subclans. Abayoonis is very tiny minority in Wardheer and they are scattered all over the place. Miir Khaliifo is a Ismaaciil Gumcadle village. You remember back in 2004 where Reer Baciid yahan got wiped out from that area. The only Majeeretene in Miir Khaliifo are there because Ismaaciil Gumcadle.
http://www.somaliatalk.com/2004/june/20jun204.html
Actually, lately the Ilka-yars have been venturing into the area to fight with the minority Majeerteen in the area. There is only one motorized well, and it is owned and manned by Ismaaciil Gumcadle, but the government has ordered them to let all other clans water their livestock. I don't know if it is Dhabayaco culture, but lately you guys have been claiming everything. Malaha nabadaa idiinka darta. Here are Majeerteen elders in Wardheer few weeks ago complaining about Ismaaciil Gumcadle, Not Ogaden, Not Makaahiil, Not Gumcadle but one subclan of Gumcadle:

Wardheer marti ayuu ku yahay majeerteen, haddii ay joogi waayaana Galaadi baa lagu celin. They are saying that Ismaaciil Gumcadle cannot build houses on wadada Gelaadi? Are you serious? Walee waa yaab.

As for Ilka-yar claiming Neef Kuceliye, the Reer Cismaans were welcomed by Ismaaciil Gumcadle, fed them, provided them shelter, and after realizing there were up to no good, they had to go back.


Hadda sheekadu waxay taagan tahay hal qoys ee Ismaaciil Gumcadle ah, magaalada Wardheer iyo Doollo waxaa lawadaaga ilaa saddex lafood oo kale oo Makaahiil ah; the warrior Abraahiin, Gacan Weyne, and Maxamed Gumcadle. Waa iga talo ee nabada ilaashada. Waxaa layidhi "Makaahiil iyo Malmal midna masoo macaanaado".
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Guhad-

I am shocked not anymore I tell you. Hardly do any Somalis know any tangible history of their own land.

Even then way you started this topic about 7wells of Dollo surfing on the completely decontextualized Guba/British colonialism/Mullah wars narrative was an example of misinformation about the real equities involved.

Can you tell me which one of the wells in Dollow is a permanent well?
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guhad122 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 11:52 pm
DalJecel60 wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:20 pm Isaaq Majeerteen,Mareexaan,Dhulbahante,Leelkase,Ogaaden,Geri Koombe and Awrtable all settle in Doollo laakin waaloo kala badanyahay.

Doollo waa intaan

Bookh Districts
oo ay Majeerteen iyo Dhulbahante dagto

Bookh (Majeerteen)
Saaxdheer (Dhulbahante)
Cagaare waala wada dagaa
Maygaagle waala wada dagaa
Magacley (Majeeteen)
Gumburka waala wada dagaa

Galaadi waa MJ
Galaadi town waa MJ
Dudub waa MJ
Mareexaan meeshay ka dagaan ha sheegaan fadlan

Wardheer waa OG/MJ

Miirkhalifo MJ
Wardheer town 2 xaafad waxaa daga OG kaligood
1 xaafad is MJ but OG waa joogaan
1 xaafad is abit of MJ but reer abayoonis and og baa ku badan

Daratoole waa OG and wax yaroo MJ

Danood waa OG and abit of Dhulo and Isaaq



* Daarood haduu Damac idinka yeelo*

* waa Daratooliyo Dooliyo Hawdee*

* waa Dogobiyo Saxdheer dagaladiisiye*

* waa Darsinkii Waamiyo Nugaal Degaanadisiye*


Walaalayaal
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Majeerteen is found in Xaafad labaad and they share with several Makaahiil subclans. Abayoonis is very tiny minority in Wardheer and they are scattered all over the place. Miir Khaliifo is a Ismaaciil Gumcadle village. You remember back in 2004 where Reer Baciid yahan got wiped out from that area. The only Majeeretene in Miir Khaliifo are there because Ismaaciil Gumcadle.
http://www.somaliatalk.com/2004/june/20jun204.html
Actually, lately the Ilka-yars have been venturing into the area to fight with the minority Majeerteen in the area. There is only one motorized well, and it is owned and manned by Ismaaciil Gumcadle, but the government has ordered them to let all other clans water their livestock. I don't know if it is Dhabayaco culture, but lately you guys have been claiming everything. Malaha nabadaa idiinka darta. Here are Majeerteen elders in Wardheer few weeks ago complaining about Ismaaciil Gumcadle, Not Ogaden, Not Makaahiil, Not Gumcadle but one subclan of Gumcadle:

Wardheer marti ayuu ku yahay majeerteen, haddii ay joogi waayaana Galaadi baa lagu celin. They are saying that Ismaaciil Gumcadle cannot build houses on wadada Gelaadi? Are you serious? Walee waa yaab.

As for Ilka-yar claiming Neef Kuceliye, the Reer Cismaans were welcomed by Ismaaciil Gumcadle, fed them, provided them shelter, and after realizing there were up to no good, they had to go back.


Hadda sheekadu waxay taagan tahay hal qoys ee Ismaaciil Gumcadle ah, magaalada Wardheer iyo Doollo waxaa lawadaaga ilaa saddex lafood oo kale oo Makaahiil ah; the warrior Abraahiin, Gacan Weyne, and Maxamed Gumcadle. Waa iga talo ee nabada ilaashada. Waxaa layidhi "Makaahiil iyo Malmal midna masoo macaanaado".
Fully, caytame ayaa tahey.
Gobolka Doollo you are 20%.
you live in 20KM in between Wardhere and Qoraxey border. Cabdi xaraan Abdi ELI, same qabalos as Degmo, Like Daratoole, Lehel/Yucub
Harti Live from Mirkhilifa to Dhubub 180Km, from Werdhere to Dudun Somali BORDER 240M and WArdhere to Birtadhere Garoowe is 688KM
From Daratoolo to Shaxda Buhoodle 180KM.
Waredhere has 16 CENTERS, 8MJ/Harti, 1 is Geri, Garlogube, 3 Sade, 4Makihil.
Wardhere city is Four District, 1Mikahil, 2Bicidyahan, 3MJ/mikahil, and 4 Reer sheekh Aboyonis/Dhulbahante.
Stop Crying Harti is 60% of Doollo
Mikahil 30%
Others is 10%.
Book was made District in 1950 Mililiq made
Galaadi was made District 1960 by Haylesales
Abdi Eli made Daratoole,
Lelehelow
Galhamour.
Abdi Eli made Small are 20km square you like Three District.
Galaadi area is bigger then all area mikahil.
look at MAP
Because of that in justice you get more than what you are deserved.
Doollo is Harti land, whether you like it or not.
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Dude, are you high on Dhabayaco suuro? What map are you looking at?
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Hadal wuxuu ku dhanyahay, Makaahiil is waiting the result of the upcoming DDS elections, and once that is completed, there will be a huge Makaahiil conference in Wal-Waal to decide what to do with Dhabayoco. For the last 30 years that we have been fighting the TPLF enemy, you have been shooting us on the back. Now you will have the full Makaahiil attention. Dhulbahantaha aad sheegeysana, meela kama soo galaan Doollo. Iiidoor baa iska leh gabigoodaba. Marka Dhabayac, let us see how things turn. Don't bring that Kablalac nonsense. Last time, you were driven into Galaadi, the great famous Mareexaan poet Cabdi Galayax begged Makaahiil to stop pushing you around. That is back in the 1950s:
Inta kale danbaan uga baxoon dowladow taline
Duulane rafle iyo daahir iyo doobka cali saaqid
Du,uundooda oo idil warkaan diraya gaarsiiya
Nimanyohow dalool baad gubteen dunida maanta ahaye
Niman yohow dariiqiina waad daba maraysaane
Niman yohow dartiin baa arlada looga didayaaye
Niman yohow dadkii wada dhashaad kala dumaysaane
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Re: Dollo demystified by a True Native

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Ok never mind the question then. Guhad, waad i dhibsatay I can see by the ignore. I will just say xaal qaado as that was not my intention.

In any case, I have finally made a topic to dispense some of my research on this place. I would hope you not take it personally.
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guhad122 wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 1:38 am Dude, are you high on Dhabayaco suuro? What map are you looking at?
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Hadal wuxuu ku dhanyahay, Makaahiil is waiting the result of the upcoming DDS elections, and once that is completed, there will be a huge Makaahiil conference in Wal-Waal to decide what to do with Dhabayoco. For the last 30 years that we have been fighting the TPLF enemy, you have been shooting us on the back. Now you will have the full Makaahiil attention. Dhulbahantaha aad sheegeysana, meela kama soo galaan Doollo. Iiidoor baa iska leh gabigoodaba. Marka Dhabayac, let us see how things turn. Don't bring that Kablalac nonsense. Last time, you were driven into Galaadi, the great famous Mareexaan poet Cabdi Galayax begged Makaahiil to stop pushing you around. That is back in the 1950s:
Inta kale danbaan uga baxoon dowladow taline
Duulane rafle iyo daahir iyo doobka cali saaqid
Du,uundooda oo idil warkaan diraya gaarsiiya
Nimanyohow dalool baad gubteen dunida maanta ahaye
Niman yohow dariiqiina waad daba maraysaane
Niman yohow dartiin baa arlada looga didayaaye
Niman yohow dadkii wada dhashaad kala dumaysaane
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Re: Dollo demystified by a True Native

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guhad122 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 11:52 pm
DalJecel60 wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:20 pm Isaaq Majeerteen,Mareexaan,Dhulbahante,Leelkase,Ogaaden,Geri Koombe and Awrtable all settle in Doollo laakin waaloo kala badanyahay.

Doollo waa intaan

Bookh Districts
oo ay Majeerteen iyo Dhulbahante dagto

Bookh (Majeerteen)
Saaxdheer (Dhulbahante)
Cagaare waala wada dagaa
Maygaagle waala wada dagaa
Magacley (Majeeteen)
Gumburka waala wada dagaa

Galaadi waa MJ
Galaadi town waa MJ
Dudub waa MJ
Mareexaan meeshay ka dagaan ha sheegaan fadlan

Wardheer waa OG/MJ

Miirkhalifo MJ
Wardheer town 2 xaafad waxaa daga OG kaligood
1 xaafad is MJ but OG waa joogaan
1 xaafad is abit of MJ but reer abayoonis and og baa ku badan

Daratoole waa OG and wax yaroo MJ

Danood waa OG and abit of Dhulo and Isaaq



* Daarood haduu Damac idinka yeelo*

* waa Daratooliyo Dooliyo Hawdee*

* waa Dogobiyo Saxdheer dagaladiisiye*

* waa Darsinkii Waamiyo Nugaal Degaanadisiye*


Walaalayaal
Daarood makala maarmo
Majeerteen is found in Xaafad labaad and they share with several Makaahiil subclans. Abayoonis is very tiny minority in Wardheer and they are scattered all over the place. Miir Khaliifo is a Ismaaciil Gumcadle village. You remember back in 2004 where Reer Baciid yahan got wiped out from that area. The only Majeeretene in Miir Khaliifo are there because Ismaaciil Gumcadle.
http://www.somaliatalk.com/2004/june/20jun204.html
Actually, lately the Ilka-yars have been venturing into the area to fight with the minority Majeerteen in the area. There is only one motorized well, and it is owned and manned by Ismaaciil Gumcadle, but the government has ordered them to let all other clans water their livestock. I don't know if it is Dhabayaco culture, but lately you guys have been claiming everything. Malaha nabadaa idiinka darta. Here are Majeerteen elders in Wardheer few weeks ago complaining about Ismaaciil Gumcadle, Not Ogaden, Not Makaahiil, Not Gumcadle but one subclan of Gumcadle:

Wardheer marti ayuu ku yahay majeerteen, haddii ay joogi waayaana Galaadi baa lagu celin. They are saying that Ismaaciil Gumcadle cannot build houses on wadada Gelaadi? Are you serious? Walee waa yaab.

As for Ilka-yar claiming Neef Kuceliye, the Reer Cismaans were welcomed by Ismaaciil Gumcadle, fed them, provided them shelter, and after realizing there were up to no good, they had to go back.


Hadda sheekadu waxay taagan tahay hal qoys ee Ismaaciil Gumcadle ah, magaalada Wardheer iyo Doollo waxaa lawadaaga ilaa saddex lafood oo kale oo Makaahiil ah; the warrior Abraahiin, Gacan Weyne, and Maxamed Gumcadle. Waa iga talo ee nabada ilaashada. Waxaa layidhi "Makaahiil iyo Malmal midna masoo macaanaado".
Shameless boy Neef Ku Celiye is a Rer Cismaan deegaan, you cannot dispute this, using state resources to displace Reer Cismaan lead to the massacre of 52 Liyuu by Rer Dalal, this was in BOORANCAD. After that your Gumcadle never touched Rer Cismaan again.

Also Miir Khaalifo is a Mareexaan degaan, my abti lives there with his family. Only few bicidyahans also reside there OG is a minority.
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Re: Dollo demystified by a True Native

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I remember when i first saw this post I was ganna make a rebuttal on the territorial claims then I saw voltages post and I looked back at the picture and saw the marexaan land and burst out laughing. This thread was not my battle and I left it to the Daroods kkkkkkk
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