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i have completely obliterated my delusional snet opponents regarding Farmaajo and Kheyre conflict, Kheyres dusmareeb2 tangled in Farmaajos head(jalmad madaxa u gashey) and many others i don't wanna mention the last one is about Hirshabelle who they were saying "Hassan sheikh gifted it to you out of guilt because he was president he wasnt qabiilist"

i told them this is FUCKIND IGAD sponsored gentleman's agreement!

here are Hirshabelle clans backing again only Hawadle candidates for the third time!

ducaales adeer and imam backs mp Qoono. hada ayaga maa villa wardhiigley jooga? i support the pm to be HG to they can not get another excuse but already this is happening before the pm was appointed.

see you in oct!

Mp qoone said only Hawadle candidates will be competing with him. 5:30(dad isku beel ah from hiiraan"

where are you who was claiming otherwise

i have completely obliterated my delusional snet opponents regarding Farmaajo and Kheyre conflict,

wax kaa warbadan lama arko hadoo kale markuu afkiibaa juuqda gabay gif soo gali

don't mess with boqortooyada Hiiraan again afar walxaatoo ha ku taal inyee ku danbeysay? worst analysis tarsan kulahaa his ugaas is in todays link. dont post delusional essays stay on point.

Hiirshabelle will collapse if the presidency for this state isn't exclusively for beesha Hawadle. Muduloods/Abgaals should focus on making the sixth and final state within the new Somalia consisting of either Banadir alone or Banadir joined with Lower Shabelle. Then they can have a state to rule

Lol Sahal why are you so sensitive about this HirShabeele stuff. Tbh, I think Xassan Sh, just like Farmaajo was very sensitive as to not be seen as Qabiliste who are advancing their clan’s interest at the expense of others even to the point pf being unfair to their clan’s interest. As much as I hate it, at the end of the day Somalia is recovering from a nasty civil war, and people are very sensitive to anybody seeming like they are operating on clan with national positions. People’s trust in Dawladnimo needs to be restored. With HirShabeeleThere is no way Xassan Sh would have allowed a Abgal HirShabeele president while he was President.


That’s just my opinion and it has nothing to do with any hatred against Xawaadle (Can’t believe I have to say that), or anything other then simple analysis. MOST importantly though this is simply my opinion. If you think its BS, then please tell Voltage, myself Or anyone to simply F off, think what you want! I will not be offended. I don’t have the right to control how you think and vice versa.

Hiirshabelle will collapse if the presidency for this state isn't exclusively for beesha Hawadle. Muduloods/Abgaals should focus on making the sixth and final state within the new Somalia consisting of either Banadir alone or Banadir joined with Lower Shabelle. Then they can have a state to rule

HAG has regional trinitarian leadership;Mudug(HG) Hiiraan(Hawadle) and Banaadir(abgaal)

SAHAL regional leadership is MJ(PL) and OG(JL)

Lol Sahal why are you so sensitive about this HirShabeele stuff. Tbh, I think Xassan Sh, just like Farmaajo was very sensitive as to not be seen as Qabiliste who are advancing their clan’s interest at the expense of others even to the point pf being unfair to their clan’s interest. As much as I hate it, at the end of the day Somalia is recovering from a nasty civil war, and people are very sensitive to anybody seeming like they are operating on clan with national positions. People’s trust in Dawladnimo needs to be restored. With HirShabeeleThere is no way Xassan Sh would have allowed a Abgal HirShabeele president while he was President.


That’s just my opinion and it has nothing to do with any hatred against Xawaadle (Can’t believe I have to say that), or anything other then simple analysis. MOST importantly though this is simply my opinion. If you think its BS, then please tell Voltage, myself Or anyone to simply F off, think what you want! I will not be offended. I don’t have the right to control how you think and vice versa.

I don't understand this guy. Saddam said I am too focking nice, but it is not even being about nice---the day he didn't respond to my "xaal qaado" is the day I washed my hands of even discussing him and his people. It just showed me the guy is cuqdadloow, not only that but it's cuqdad combined with dabeecad xumo. He will consistently attack people, regions, and CLANS. He will pen constant instigations. He will not leave a border unturned---in the war concept, even "birmageydo" he will behead with his sword.

Combinr that with his own personal insecurity. This topic start with him destroying "delusional" prople , the other topic it started with him labeling himself the "leader" over information where again, the same was mentioned to make the comparison. Now he doesn't mention names, but certainly even an old, senile, illiterate advanced-age human will know who is on his mind.

At this point, I am just like dude just write something I can read from your own original mind without me feeling like I helped contribute to your motivation.

Lol Sahal why are you so sensitive about this HirShabeele stuff. Tbh, I think Xassan Sh, just like Farmaajo was very sensitive as to not be seen as Qabiliste who are advancing their clan’s interest at the expense of others even to the point pf being unfair to their clan’s interest. As much as I hate it, at the end of the day Somalia is recovering from a nasty civil war, and people are very sensitive to anybody seeming like they are operating on clan with national positions. People’s trust in Dawladnimo needs to be restored. With HirShabeeleThere is no way Xassan Sh would have allowed a Abgal HirShabeele president while he was President.


That’s just my opinion and it has nothing to do with any hatred against Xawaadle (Can’t believe I have to say that), or anything other then simple analysis. MOST importantly though this is simply my opinion. If you think its BS, then please tell Voltage, myself Or anyone to simply F off, think what you want! I will not be offended. I don’t have the right to control how you think and vice versa.

qof daad qaadey xumbo cuksay. i have debunked your claim before by showing the proof of this being gentleman's agreement. Hassan sheekh has named buuloburde the capital of Hirshabelle how can hiiraan have both president and the capital? he had an abgaal candidate for president waliba harti ah waliba 30 jir 30 million heesta the owner if hotel elite for one reason his main rival was sh shariif and this guy is from his jufo thus it was gonna unite abgaal behind him. he retreated from this position After IGAD intervention because of beesha caalamka refusing to recognize Jowhar conference without hawadle

here is the former UN envoy statung it in his book and he even asked to reachout to the Ugas after ali osoble was elected. they recognized him after he met the Ugaas.

capital changed to Jowhar to pave the way for a president from Hiiraan
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/hagaag.c ... dhexe/amp/
UN envoy at that t8me
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rxm ... le&f=false
good analysis
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... eelle/amp/

i saw in somalispot your gedo elders in Xamar flocking to Kismaayo to partake ahmed madoobe reconciliation shir and talking shit about their own garbahareey shir and you want to lead JL!

let us suppose Hassan sh was president then why waare he was not president for a year why now he is not president and clan are backing this mp? please asnwer this point without looking for excuse.







haye isku tacsiyadeen aa biloowdeen markastoo beentiina soo baxda

maxaa u cararee voltage shalwy thread aad u samays arintaan mid keyga aha waad hijaak gareysay muran badan


war wa taas wali JL kala dooranaysa laba ogaadeen ah hirshabellana wali labo hawadle ah kala dooranayasa ee mar danbe waxaas meesha hala imaan una diyasr garoow xidig iyo seeraar dynasty loool

intaas kaliya maaha your ku sime in every instituion war xataa malihid real powersharing iyo wax aad madax ka tahay kismaayo moyor mj waaye ciidamada wax walbe ku sime aa ka tahay
aniga jowhar xataa waxaan ka degaa.

Voltage ama adkeysi hore lahoow ama afeef danbe lahoiw

you made whole thread afar walxaatoo ha ku taal for hirshabelle harti abgaal president you repost it again in my new thread why r you now cabaadin markii dhabta xaqiiqada la haarey

you eagalehawk hijacked my thread hirshabelle state house

this is what you wrote

"Hirshabelle and Jubbaland are in Vacuum. They are not even undergoing development because the development stage is a problem-solving stage to get to completion.

When there is a "Vacuum", something fills the empty space. In many cases that can be deceiving which is what we have with Madoobe Admin in Kismaayo and the unilaterally approved Hassan Sheekh system in Hir Shabelle.

Everything west of the Shabelle river in Hiiraan is Shabaab occupied as is practically everything between the city of Kismaayo and Baardheere. There are entire communities whose voices are now silent or muted that will be settling accounts the moment they are allowed to speak

Finally, Xawaadle and Ogaadeen are probably the biggest most recent recipients of luck; eye filling the vacuum. No great powers militarily, middling political influence, no great "sustainable" clan features to continue carrying the role luck gave them presently"

lucky kulahaa. JL waligeed harti iyi absame ay aheed gedo iyo jowharna 1984kii ay soo baxeen marka Jubada hoose lagama hogaamin karo gedo hiirana lagama hogaamin karo jowhar. way nasiib badan tahay hadeeysan Gedo southwest raacin!



maanta waxaa la gaaray doorashadii sadexaad and STILL HAWADLE so im basically saying to you what happened to your hassan sh argument

truth hurts!

Sahal, the truth is Jubbaland wax shaki an qabo majirto, even a taano wallahi. My OG brothers dhibaatadoo ugu wayn oo haysato waa isla taas.

Aniga waxaan ku oran lahaa isku kalsoonoo and direct your qaniinyo where your eye is really looking, Abgaal Cusmaan.

Aniga abgaal Ally aan nahay laakin ninkii seexdaa sicii dibi dhalaa. aniga nin loo soo gali karo ma ihi. IGAD aa Kismaayo loo soo diray 2013 adayaashiinoo buuxaa la arkey hassan sh back off aa la dhahay. hiiraan waa loo soo diray 2015. 8 bilood ay hirshabelle socotay murankeeda . waxaa la arkey inaan Jowhar joogin hadana waxaa laga baqayaa inay tii dhacdo hadii gentelmans agreementgaas la burburiya.

ayaga waxay ii ogol yihiin kabadan laba jibaar waxa ogaadeen kuu ogol yihiin sida caasimada iyo real gobol powersharing


intaas ayaad ogolaan la,dihiin.


this is Ugaaska tarsan you claimed he will be next Hirshabelle president

read the comment section Abgaal activists vs hawadle activists

the writer hassan xundubay who is former Abgaal bbc correspondent in Baladweyne before moving to the uk says "waxaa lagu qasbay madaxdii hore(hassan sh) oon aragti laheen"

the point of his article is hawadle being forced on them because of the position of their ugaas and dhaqan"

that is what im talking about!

the writer says in the comment section that jowhar are shared town and that hawadle part of its community



second biggest misinformation you hold is thinking Jowhar is abgaal town. i was in the morning watching interview with Hirshabelle security minister who is Gaaljecel. the journalist was repeating one quesion why he cant secure Jowhar-Balacad road he even says just Jowhar-qalimow half way to balcad is the problem. you know why bc this road goes through Gaaljecel and Jowhar-north road goes through hawadle. that is why abgaal cant secure it without Govt. hundubey us wrong to blame us for their security. fix your shit in Xamar bc jowhar was always dependent on Xamar we let you run your own region.

see highway to hiiraan and Xamar goes through gaaljecel(South)and hawadle(North) its not safe until you go 30k sputh of Jowhar half way to balcad for being pro al ansaar(Pro Al shabaab) area with many respect for Gaaljecel. Abgaal east of the river and in the center jareer iyo carab


Jowhar insecurity=Gaaljecel highway(30km south of jowhar at qalimow)

watch 9:30

Sahal,

!تمام نقف هـنة خلي يكون لي رأي و أنت رأيك الأمر سهـل

read the comment section Abgaal activists vs hawadle activists

the writer hassan xundubay who is former Abgaal bbc correspondent in Baladweyne before moving to the uk says "waxaa lagu qasbay madaxdii hore(hassan sh) oon aragti laheen"

the point of his article is hawadle being forced on them because of the position of their ugaas and dhaqan"

that is what im talking about!

the writer says in the comment section that jowhar are shared town and that hawadle part of its community



second biggest misinformation you hold is thinking Jowhar is abgaal town. i was in the morning watching interview with Hirshabelle security minister who is Gaaljecel. the journalist was repeating one quesion why he cant secure Jowhar-Balacad road he even says just Jowhar-qalimow half way to balcad is the problem. you know why bc this road goes through Gaaljecel and Jowhar-north road goes through hawadle. that is why abgaal cant secure it without Govt. hundubey us wrong to blame us for their security. fix your shit in Xamar bc jowhar was always dependent on Xamar we let you run your own region.

see highway to hiiraan and Xamar goes through gaaljecel(South)and hawadle(North) its not safe until you go 30k sputh of Jowhar half way to balcad for being pro al ansaar(Pro Al shabaab) area with many respect for Gaaljecel. Abgaal east of the river and in the center jareer iyo carab


Jowhar insecurity=Gaaljecel highway(30km south of jowhar at qalimow)

watch 9:30

Sahal I dont give a shit about your beef with these buuns but stop pushing this fairytail about Jowhar being shared or Xawadle having a xaafad its embarrassing wlh. Anyone who has ever been to Jowhar knows there is no Xawaadle neighbourhood. You are claiming Ciise Harti and Moobleen neighbourhood as Xawaadle kkkkk. You can push your fairy tales to ignorant folks but not to me ina-abti. West bank from Jalalaqsi to Mahadday is Ciise Harti land and from Mahadday to Jowhar its mixed between Ciise and Mobleen (I have maps dating back to 1800s to proof this, just figuering how to post them).

I know you like to claim Ciise Harti as Xawaadle like the same way you claim Agoonyar as the younger brother of Agoon(weyn) Cabdalle. Laakiin it doesnt make them Xawaadle nor their land yours. Jowhar is Abgaal territory eebow wich we make the majority of, but like you said Abgaal and Xawaadle are allies and have good relations and Im not denying Xawaadle having sizeable community in Jowhar but you definetly dont have your own neighbourhood nor do you have any land in Middle Shabelle. Our border starts in Jalalaqsi and Muqaakori not in Jowhar lol.