Clans representing each district/province

[sahal80]

ever since my "somalia is build on falsehood thread" sahal has been on a crusade of nin iska dhici. anyway this actually proofs my point. as long as 4.5 is in somalia, somalia will not move forward but at the end of the day when amisom leaves it will come to down to the following

1) strength
2) land
3) population

alhamdulilah i have the most in all 3 in kismaayo. i am happy marehan MP's will be elected in Gedo and in 2025 if 1m1v is done i will get more seats in kismaayo and galmudug



i am always pro 1m1v, while some clans are against 1m1v i wonder why

while you looking at kismaayo hawiye got 1 in jubbaland (gaaljecel the rest i don't consider hawiye) and hawiye got zero in southwest state

kkkkk yes i have waged crusade war on you as a group not bc of you. you, as a group, broke the curse for me i love this new democracy and freedom but im not whining about you unlike you here calling it rag iska dhicis and that mad delusional out of touch with the world who shits in all my threads is proof that i hit a nerve

the reality is OG defeated you in Kismaayo and made you retreat to the recent liberated Gedo as your last stronghold thus relinquishing your claim of Kismaayo.

and who said your mps are not still under his control? delegates will be selcted by JL not from Xamar or the outgoing governor macalimow

forget about hawiye; Sheekhal, Gaaljecel, Garjante gardheere gaaljecek sister and ajuraan are represented in Kismaayo also 4 dir=irir 8 but not single mx

[Voltage]

i see Kismayo conflict is over!


these seats can never be changed after this election.

Sahal its Official that Towfiiq and all Dir and Sheikhaal Degmo are under Galmudug, all their seats have been moved to Galmudug, the only clans in Puntland are now all Hartis.

yes their deegaan doorasho is south GLK Galmudug therefore they r part of Galmudug.

Absame and Harti deegaan doorasho Kismaayo. some folks are detached from reality claiming bay&bakool when current gedo has 16 mps who r mainly one subclan looool Farmaajo signed that Daaroods who have matalaad in Kismaayo are Absame and harti. we r talking here matalaad IN EACH CITY not states. i have metelaad in Baledweyne but not in Jowhar though we are the Same state and live in Jowhar. we want to have more matalaad in Hiiraan where the big stakes are but for JL the big stakes are in Kismaayo. look Gaaljecel have 4 in Hiiraan and they r the ones who leading the rest.

I thought about opening one last topic in your name along the lines of my infamous Election topic last November.

1. No extension
2. No 1 man/1vote

Then I said No.

In fairness, I have already expressed the main above, but I was going to be more detailed and concise explaining the technicalities.

Then I said No.

For the same reason, I gave 0 substantive feedback the last dozen times you clearly wanted to engage me.

You have made interaction negative. You personalize things. And you are not motivated by exchanging information.

I think when you realize how much you expanded your knowledge about the state building process through, you will regret how you approach information sharing.

I always expand my knowledge through others.

When I don't think that is possible, I pull back. And then all of a sudden, someone used to picking valuable bits from long article responses----just gets single sarcastic memes.

Moral of the story;

1. Don't bother even trying to bait me again cuz I won't even respond with memes.

2. Rethink how you engage discussions from a place of petty competition to increasing knowledge.

[Voltage]

Dhuuso.com. 3 mps from KG. Wadalaan, Wacdaan Cismaan and Silcis gorgaarte.
Mudulood got 15 mps currently. Without Banaadir. When Banaadir is added another atleast 6mps

You will never get Banaadir State.

Wallahi.

The same reason Farmaajo couldn't do anything.

I mean literally anything.

Is the same reason there will never be a Benadir State. Please keep in mind, I don't even mean "not exactly like a Federal State but..."

No. 0%.

Everybody who has internalized the state building project already knows this.

Hassan Sheekh knows. Sheekh Shariif knows.

The current Governor knows, the previous Governors know.

It is the truth bro, but I neither expect you to listen, care, or even value this.

Just do not be surprised.

Do you see why only Benadiri are the ones recognized to be "having their vote in Benadir?" Why not the Abgaal of Benadir? Why not any non-Benadiri?

How come Abgaal of Galmudug get Galmudug deegaan dorosho but not Abgaal of Benadir?

I mean Marehan of Caabudwaaq are not lumped with Marehan of Jubba and the Abgaal of Ceeldheer are not lumped with Jowhar.... But the Abgaal of Benadir.

So this is called "gently breaking in."

The Benadiri got Benadiri deegaan dorosho as " historical xaal." Like the Gasaargude of Luuq, the Gabaabweyn and Dir of Dollow, and thr Macalinweyne of Baardheere.

It is historical "xaal" recognition but it is mere symbolism.

But when it comes to Benadir State for example, certain "realities" have been agreed upon by this agreement.

It is literally the first and most defining, Somali-led consensus setting.

Which brings me back to "gently breaking in."

Before the wild stallion can be a barnyard stud, he has to be broken in.

And it starts with even just getting the HARNESS on him. The riding harness is the first instinctual breaking.

The horse starts sensing there has been an exchange of will an from there begins submission.

This omission from Benadir...so easy, so simple, yet so defining....is the harness.

Some extremely strategic hand that has studied and discovered the key to Somalis designed this process.

Everything we see is designed, but I am starting to understand those who can SEE the equation are very, very very few and far in between.



The next goal is actually doversifyi

[Kees70]

ever since my "somalia is build on falsehood thread" sahal has been on a crusade of nin iska dhici. anyway this actually proofs my point. as long as 4.5 is in somalia, somalia will not move forward but at the end of the day when amisom leaves it will come to down to the following

1) strength
2) land
3) population

alhamdulilah i have the most in all 3 in kismaayo. i am happy marehan MP's will be elected in Gedo and in 2025 if 1m1v is done i will get more seats in kismaayo and galmudug


i am always pro 1m1v, while some clans are against 1m1v i wonder why ::

while you looking at kismaayo hawiye got 1 in jubbaland (gaaljecel the rest i don't consider hawiye) and hawiye got zero in southwest state

kkkkk yes i have waged crusade war on you as a group not bc of you. you, as a group, broke the curse for me i love this new democracy and freedom but im not whining about you unlike you here calling it rag iska dhicis and that mad delusional out of touch with the world who shits in all my threads is proof that i hit a nerve

the reality is OG defeated you in Kismaayo and made you retreat to the recent liberated Gedo as your last stronghold thus relinquishing your claim of Kismaayo.

and who said your mps are not still under his control? delegates will be selcted by JL not from Xamar or the outgoing governor macalimow

forget about hawiye even hiraab are represented in Kismaayo by Shiikhaal but not mx

Ileen Beeha Marexan where always masakiin powerless folks who relie on Hawiye Muscle for revelance in Jubooyinka, alhamulilahi Farmaajo broke the spell that tied Hawiye to Mx.

Beesha MX need to seek forgivenes from Hawiye in Full if they want to be safed from the kablalax onlaught

[Voltage]

ever since my "somalia is build on falsehood thread" sahal has been on a crusade of nin iska dhici. anyway this actually proofs my point. as long as 4.5 is in somalia, somalia will not move forward but at the end of the day when amisom leaves it will come to down to the following

1) strength
2) land
3) population

alhamdulilah i have the most in all 3 in kismaayo. i am happy marehan MP's will be elected in Gedo and in 2025 if 1m1v is done i will get more seats in kismaayo and galmudug



i am always pro 1m1v, while some clans are against 1m1v i wonder why

while you looking at kismaayo hawiye got 1 in jubbaland (gaaljecel the rest i don't consider hawiye) and hawiye got zero in southwest state

Yeahhh------

1. The agreement literally recognizes the Marehan reality.

It is an actual acknowledgement of "we singularly completely dominant 1/2 of Jubbaland's districts while the rest are shared by Somaliweyn."

2. Garbahaarey will be the capital of Jubbaland. I am not debating this point. I am stating this.

This is the "meher."

3. Kismaayo to Jubbaland is like Boosaaso to Puntland. 10 different clans live in Bosaaso besides Majeerteen Somali Bantu from Kamsuuna freely work in Bosaaso. No one asks you your clan.

But the trade that begins at the port or goes to the port is processed in Gaalkacyo, passes through Garowe and Qardo and everything from the transportation to shipping and tranfering to organizing the routes and networks and then guaranteeing it...is what makes Bosaaso Bosaaso and that is all Majeerteen.

The trade/economy that will make Kismaayo and Jubbaland enters Somalia through Dollow and Beled-Xawo.



The single most important shipment point for both Jubba Valley AND Southwest State is Luuq.

The trade to Kismaayo leaves Luuq to Garbahaarey them Baardheere and then south.

Baardheere is the 2nd largest town in Jubbaland (forget about its capacity to surprise), Beled-Xaawo is the 3rd largest town, Luuq is the 4th, etc.


I mean literally every single civil war objective Marehan had for taking and holding Kismaayo (taking over the only economkc access for Jubba Valley and precluding armed enemy to bring in resources) is not only dead but even irrelevant.

A milliom different groups can live jn Kismaayo.

That is not only irrelevant to Marehan but even better! The more people the more services needed the more business.

Yet between Kismaayo to Baardheere there isn't a village with a shack.

The irony is someone on the ground looking up at the sky and thinking because they can see horizon to horizon, the sky is constrained.

A lot of people over a long historical period have went to their graves completely embittered by Marehan.

I woule advise someone here---stop caring or worrying about Marehan. You are not impacted by them directly so that's the greatest "I don't care about them" chance.

Otherwise, you will only become more and more bitter. And it shouldn't even be a surprise. You can access history

[sahal80]

Federalism have fucked up some clans and make them split while others went back to their original deegaans to avoid political repression.

Gaaljecel gonna have 3 in Hiiraan as Sheikh Hassan barsane jufo from Jowhar were wrongly added to Baladweyne. Ali Osoble was right when he said Hawadle is the only clan who are fully from Hirshabelle and Hiiraan therefore the biggest clan in Hirshabelle. he said gaaljecel live in sagaal gobol not only hiiraan kkk we have the biggest stake in Hirshabelle

[grandpakhalif]

Marehan had won big time we have 10 in Gedo and 4 in Gakmudug that equals 14 in tktal and fully under our control. Look at OG who only got a measly 10 in Jubbooyinka and abgaal who only got 8 hahahha. Wallahi we are winning big time let the langaab xawaadle who only got 8 keep crying nacala

[sahal80]

kkkk

the difference is my 8 mps and two senators are FREE not under the control of OG who forced you to leave jubooyinka for them and and HG besides i will control the majority of mps who are allocated for Baladweyne; Political advantage. only pro Hawadle will be elected like pro OG will be elected in Kismaayo. real capital is Baladweyne where 70% of powersharing comes from.
. See quantity vs quality.
25 mps under my hegemony. they already signed extension for waare kkkk just wanted Khadijo diiriye to be sent to Baladweyne she is anti hirshabelle establishment. her father is from buuloburde but her mother from jowhar she calls abgaal her abtiyaal. she was born in Jowhar but lived in buulo burde in her youth. yaxar kuraas r moved to Jowhar.

[grandpakhalif]

kkkk

the difference is my 8 mps and two senators are FREE not under the control of OG who forced you to leave jubooyinka for them and and HG besides i will control the majority of mps who are allocated for Baladweyne; Political advantage. only pro Hawadle will be elected like pro OG will be elected in Kismaayo. real capital is Baladweyne where 70% of powersharing comes from.
. See quantity vs quality.
25 mps under my hegemony. they already signed extension for waare kkkk just wanted Khadijo diiriye to be sent to Baladweyne she is anti hirshabelle establishment. her father is from buuloburde but her mother from jowhar she calls abgaal her abtiyaal. she was born in Jowhar but lived in buulo burde in her youth. yaxar kuraas r moved to Jowhar.

Lamgaab xawaadle only got 6 my bad not even 8 and Marehan MPs they will be voted from Garboharaay which is under Mucalimu not Madoobe who only controls Kismaayo hahhahah and as for GMRer Cabudwaaq will bring their MPs to dhuusomareeb to vote for it. You only have 6 hahahahahhahahaha langaab waa ahlu naar

[nine]

Sahal been typing verbal diarrhea for 2 years dude sounds frustrated

[Mustafee101]

Yo Laangaab Xaarwaadle, what about your Hutu people in Banadir region? Hutu got 0 seats in Banadir/Muqdishu while Shaanshi got 4 seats lmao

[sahal80]

kkkk

the difference is my 8 mps and two senators are FREE not under the control of OG who forced you to leave jubooyinka for them and and HG besides i will control the majority of mps who are allocated for Baladweyne; Political advantage. only pro Hawadle will be elected like pro OG will be elected in Kismaayo. real capital is Baladweyne where 70% of powersharing comes from.
. See quantity vs quality.
25 mps under my hegemony. they already signed extension for waare kkkk just wanted Khadijo diiriye to be sent to Baladweyne she is anti hirshabelle establishment. her father is from buuloburde but her mother from jowhar she calls abgaal her abtiyaal. she was born in Jowhar but lived in buulo burde in her youth. yaxar kuraas r moved to Jowhar.

Lamgaab xawaadle only got 6 my bad not even 8 and Marehan MPs they will be voted from Garboharaay which is under Mucalimu not Madoobe who only controls Kismaayo hahhahah and as for GMRer Cabudwaaq will bring their MPs to dhuusomareeb to vote for it. You only have 6 hahahahahhahahaha langaab waa ahlu naar

is how you work for the UN? 6 is Abgaal in the jowhar group among other muduloods and shiidle and yaxar.
unlike of Daarood, Hawiye have huge subclans for example abgaal is clan, udeejeen is clan hilibi is clan wacadaan is clan mobileen is clan so Abgaal got 9 and Hawadle 8. HG have the biggest followed by Abgaal then Hawadle then Murusade than Gaaljecel then gugundhabe than sheekhal. im ok with this power sharing as long im the third and lead an FMS. HAG has trinitarian power sharing; Mudug HG, Hiiraan Hawadle and Banaadir Abgaal while SAHAL has binary power sharing=OG-Led Jubbland and PL aka Kablalah.

Banaadiri r not banaadir this is about the lower house. banaadir will be left out for the parliament and the next Govt to modify needs to modify an article so the next pres can sign it
already got voted by the parliament. Benaadir will have assembly(Golo deegaan) that will elect its governor this is hugely backed by the EU who believe in democracy blame goes for hassan sh. also will have a representation in the upper house but Farmaajo was using it like i said to get extension so now as he will be out soon he doesnt care and deni and madobe were against bc next hawiye president will keep the momentum going even if he is Abgaal they know how Farmaajo made them look bad so no going back.

Goodax is likely to become the interior minister according to some sources the interior is either Abgaal or Hawadle and the security is either Abgaal or murusade. if Goodax becomes the interior he will finish golaha deegaanka banaadir.

[Nomand]

ever since my "somalia is build on falsehood thread" sahal has been on a crusade of nin iska dhici. anyway this actually proofs my point. as long as 4.5 is in somalia, somalia will not move forward but at the end of the day when amisom leaves it will come to down to the following

1) strength
2) land
3) population

alhamdulilah i have the most in all 3 in kismaayo. i am happy marehan MP's will be elected in Gedo and in 2025 if 1m1v is done i will get more seats in kismaayo and galmudug



i am always pro 1m1v, while some clans are against 1m1v i wonder why

while you looking at kismaayo hawiye got 1 in jubbaland (gaaljecel the rest i don't consider hawiye) and hawiye got zero in southwest state

kkkkk yes i have waged crusade war on you as a group not bc of you. you, as a group, broke the curse for me i love this new democracy and freedom but im not whining about you unlike you here calling it rag iska dhicis and that mad delusional out of touch with the world who shits in all my threads is proof that i hit a nerve

the reality is OG defeated you in Kismaayo and made you retreat to the recent liberated Gedo as your last stronghold thus relinquishing your claim of Kismaayo.

and who said your mps are not still under his control? delegates will be selcted by JL not from Xamar or the outgoing governor macalimow

forget about hawiye; Sheekhal, Gaaljecel, Garjante gardheere gaaljecek sister and ajuraan are represented in Kismaayo also 4 dir=irir 8 but not single mx

your a funny guy sahal, talking about irir iyo hag when you are neither and then you go and divide darod into subclan

anyway, i am from kismaayo i go to kismaayo, and no marehan is not defeated. i don't want to keep repeating myself but all of the FMS including your hiirshabeele are artificial and build on borrowed shiisheeye muscle. Somalia whether you like it or not will go back to strenght,land and population. marti that came with KDF will leave with KDF. what is important for now is that my MP's are selected freely in garbaharey without KDF putting a gun on my head.

now if we look at hiirshabeele, here are xawaadle MPS talking about leaving hiirsbaheele if the "gentle agreement" is not upheld. sxb there is no such a thing as "gentleman agreement" in somalia whether in a month or in 5 years when amisom leaves lets see if your gentlemans agreement is worth more then the paper it is written on.

[Jimbie]

Why would we sent mps to kismayo when they can be elected in Garba Gedo? This sahal character is dumb

[Osob101]

Khadajo diiraaye might call Abgaal her reer abti but if she had the power, she would probably annihilate Hawiye let alone Abgaal. When her mother ran of with her father, there was blood spilled. I could be mistaken but I believe her father was killed in broad day light by her uncle and the uncle uncle in broad daylight.