National consultative forum the post-february 8 leadership

[juelz]

We support our brother Sahal, no body hates farmaajo he signed up to be president of Somaliavwithbthat comes responsibility. If you can’t handle then go jerk off somewhere else. Any Somali can criticize farmaajo it doesn’t have to be based on clan politics or some other nonsense. War marexaanow ma sidaas baa daciif u tahiin is adkeeya saxiib.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Sahal has been spot on. He predicted weeks ago about this upcoming conference at a time all the MXs where saying no more meetings. Doorasha dhici baq baq.

[Murax]

Sahal,

I wrote a long response because just now but this stupid site, timed out or whatever and it was lost. Gen Duufle, said I don’t respond to others because of English, when I have called you Ustaadh on this forum many times, because I know the Arabic you speak is scholarly Arabic, you also speak, Somali, English fluently, and who knows how many other languages.

I don’t engage with Ogadeens, Abgals, MJ, here because they have direct interests they feel are threatened. If I was those clans I would probably be Anti N&N too. I just think you even do Xawaadle a disservice tbh with the ‘HAG’ talking points. All these other clans they pick, and choose when to be mucaarad or muxaafid according to their maslaxad. Dantaada garo and if you feel it still includes hating Farmaajo, then go after his ass. Your intention is maslaxad khaas Xawaadle but you’re using maslaxad caam (HAG). But when you do that you make Xawaadle look weak. Lakin Hal shay garo. 80% of Somalia’s population is under 35. Yacni they were born 1986 and wixi ka danbeeyo. GorGor, Haramcad are filled with youth that don’t know, or care why people fought in the ‘90s. The opposition you support failed when they thought they could get them to drop their guns and mutineer. Now they’re stuck with no plan B!

[Murax]

Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Sahal has been spot on. He predicted weeks ago about this upcoming conference at a time all the MXs where saying no more meetings. Doorasha dhici baq baq.

I said it was dullinimo when they named the guddi after they were told. I never said there would or wouldn’t be another meeting, I don’t know the ghayb. Besides We’re in February people will have to meet at some point. Where I stand corrected is where is the ‘Parallel process’ ‘Wallahi Thumma Thumma Thumma’ ‘Xoog takeover etc? That is what Sahal, yourself, many others promised, but I will continue to wait patiently.


Gacmaha daalay Culusow sidu warqado u qoraayay Beesha 6aad, he had to start using a thesaurus for new words

[sahal80]

We support our brother Sahal, no body hates farmaajo he signed up to be president of Somaliavwithbthat comes responsibility. If you can’t handle then go jerk off somewhere else. Any Somali can criticize farmaajo it doesn’t have to be based on clan politics or some other nonsense. War marexaanow ma sidaas baa daciif u tahiin is adkeeya saxiib.

Thank you my brother!

Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Sahal has been spot on. He predicted weeks ago about this upcoming conference at a time all the MXs where saying no more meetings. Doorasha dhici baq baq.

it's like a cult for them. who in their right mind will still insist that failmaajo will be reelected after all this even his time is over? they invited now the opposition to Dhusamareeb bc he walked out the meeting today with beesha caalamka like a child he is going mad to night he knows this will be the final nail in his coffin and the security council is gonna support it. qoorqoor and Rooble may jump on the bandwagon too.

[Osob101]

Murax

You seem to forget or purposely ignore the interest of Hawiye is the interest of Sahal as a Xawadle. You are telling him not to look for his interest the same way you are looking for your interest in Farmaajo.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Sahal has been spot on. He predicted weeks ago about this upcoming conference at a time all the MXs where saying no more meetings. Doorasha dhici baq baq.

I said it was dullinimo when they named the guddi after they were told. I never said there would or wouldn’t be another meeting, I don’t know the ghayb. Besides We’re in February people will have to meet at some point. Where I stand corrected is where is the ‘Parallel process’ ‘Wallahi Thumma Thumma Thumma’ ‘Xoog takeover etc? That is what Sahal, yourself, many others promised, but I will continue to wait patiently.


Gacmaha daalay Culusow sidu warqado u qoraayay Beesha 6aad, he had to start using a thesaurus for new words

Sxb how come Abdi nuur went all the way to Cadale to try to make a deal with Saneey Abdulle if they weren't afraid of SNA's 27th division?



Sxb we'll see by February, I'll be man enough to admit if I'm wrong.

[sahal80]

Murax

You seem to forget or purposely ignore the interest of Hawiye is the interest of Sahal as a Xawadle. You are telling him not to look for his interest the same way you are looking for your interest in Farmaajo.

i dont want to gang up on him like they do on me but there is some arab saying close to the pot calling the kettle black. qof aad ceebtiisa ama cudurka uu qabo qof kale ku sheega. رمتنى بدائها وانسلت

his cousin aa wuxuu dhihi jiray "murusadaa booskiina qaatey oo kheyre waa neceb tahay" aaway murusade hada

hadey wax qaateen hiraab ay ka qaateen. murusade waa qabiilka kaliya ee hawiye oon beef naga dhaxeyn. Xamar iskuma dhawin anaga abgaal iyo HG aan u dhaxeynaa ama sacad reer hiloowle iyo Daauud wacbuudhan
http://wikimapia.org/31966353/xaafada-nasteexo
hiiraana ma degaan laakiin waxaan nahay airporkooda iyo dekadooda ooy u maraan xamar marka daad saas kuugu baahan maba ku dhibi karaan. HG waa isu baahanahay ileen waqooyi aan u safraa laakin ceelbuur maxaan uga baahanahay?

Murax has similar theory wich means if he takes the Abgaal(hawiye) seat they will come to us in Hirshabelle. ok Hiiraan waa cadceed yaa qarin kara? Abgaal waa hogaamin karaan hirshabelle laakin Hiiraan xuquudeeda lama cuni karo lamana qarin karo ugu yaraan wixii shaley Abgaal iyo Jowhar jiray ayaa u soo wareegaya once mooge go hadadaan aan kula hadlaayo guudlaawe oo ka quustey wuxuu la kulmaa xildhibaanada federalka wuxuu soo diray xilibaanada hirshabelle oo baladweyne jooga asagoo leh wax walbe qaata qoondada haweenka 17 mps qaata, caasimada qaata kaliya booskaas ii dhaafa

secondly yaa huba in Abgaal soo noqonayaan hadii Mooge baxo? waxaa jira qorshe fahad wato oo Damjadiid HG ah as planb. HG ayagaa ku xoogan federalka waxay heestaan pm waxay heestaan FMS kaligood ah waa tan shirka dhuusamareeb ka dhaco. madasha mucaaradka waa ayaga. Abgaal sh shariif bas ayaa ka jira oo OG ku xiran daaroodna PL aa wax karkarisa madoobe iyo deni waa isku xiranyihiin

waxaa dhici karta inuu waceysle ku soo baxo sida daahir geele oo dhaho aniga hirshabelle ma matalo reer galmudug aan ahay this is between you and the rest of Abgaals

finally Abgaal being in the federal govt will be worse for us it will be close to OG in the federal govt and having JL. Mooge and Fahad deploy divide and conquer tactics not fully with guudlaawe they r using both sides against each other so they can keep Guudlaawe as their hostage to keep him away from the abgaal politicians. the difference is most Abgaals see us as allies oo ku xisaabtama kuraasteena iyo garabkeena in the federal level so if they want to have the hawadle backing they will have to leave hirshabelle for them otherwise they will go to their separate ways we may vote for some HG in the second round if our guy couldnt make the first round but Hiiraan is a sun it cannot be hidden but him without 4.5 based federal post he will be back to irrelevance. my first concerning when it comes to Hiiraan is getting red of Fahad Yasin the guy behind the baadilsoor shit who is behind all the hirshsbelle mess. Mooge thinks if Abgaal had both Banaadir and Hirshabelle it will weaken their federal chances but the root of all evil for us is Fahad Yaasin all the things goodax was saying about Guudlaawe is true but its not his ideas or policy its fahad yaasin and reeriw hassan stuff. since he met Ali mahdi he changed and started looking solution from Hawadle. Fahad yasiin and his reerow hassan ayaa qabiilada hiiraan dhan naga horkeenay including udeejeen inkastoon aaminsanahay in xuquuq ka maqantahay hiiraan laakin jagooyinka ay hiiraan ku heestaan Xamar kuma heestaan. mooge iyo hiiraan intaas kaliya. midka cayilin ibrahim abas ee mid maal dhaweyd soo dhigaayey agoon cabdalle aa dhaleen qabiilada kale uu tirinaaya dhan waa baadilsoor odey kalaa jira asagana udeejeen ah oo afka reerow hassan ku hadla.

[Kees70]

Murax

You seem to forget or purposely ignore the interest of Hawiye is the interest of Sahal as a Xawadle. You are telling him not to look for his interest the same way you are looking for your interest in Farmaajo.

i dont want to gang up on him like they do on me but there is some arab saying close to the pot calling the kettle black. qof aad ceebtiisa ama cudurka uu qabo qof kale ku sheega. رمتنى بدائها وانسلت

his cousin aa wuxuu dhihi jiray "murusadaa booskiina qaatey oo kheyre waa neceb tahay" aaway murusade hada

hadey wax qaateen hiraab ay ka qaateen. murusade waa qabiilka kaliya ee hawiye oon beef naga dhaxeyn. Xamar iskuma dhawin anaga abgaal iyo HG aan u haxeynaa ama sacad reer hiloowle iyo Daauud wacbuudhan
http://wikimapia.org/31966353/xaafada-nasteexo
hiiraana ma degaan laakiin waxaan nahay airporkooda iyo dekadooda ooy u maraan xamar marka daad saas kuugu baahan maba ku dhibi karaan. HG waa isu baahanahay ileen waqooyi aan u safraa laakin ceelbuur maxaan uga baahanahay?

Murax has similar theory wich means if he takes the Abgaal(hawiye) seat they will come to us in Hirshabelle. ok Hiiraan waa cadceed yaa qarin kara? Abgaal waa hogaamin karaan hirshabelle laakin Hiiraan xuquudeeda lama cuni karo lamana qarin karo ugu yaraan wixii shaley Abgaal iyo Jowhar jiray ayaa u soo wareegaya once mooge go hadadaan aan kula hadlaayo guudlaawe oo ka quustey wuxuu la kulmaa xildhibaanada federalka wuxuu soo diray xilibaanada hirshabelle oo baladweyne jooga asagoo leh wax walbe qaata qoondada haweenka 17 mps qaata, caasimada qaata kaliya booskaas ii dhaafa

secondly yaa huba in Abgaal soo noqonayaan hadii Mooge baxo? waxaa jira qorshe fahad wato oo Damjadiid HG ah as planb. HG ayagaa ku xoogan federalka waxay heestaan pm waxay heestaan FMS kaligood ah waa tan shirka dhuusamareeb ka dhaco. madasha mucaaradka waa ayaga. Abgaal sh shariif bas ayaa ka jira oo OG ku xiran daaroodna PL aa wax karkarisa madoobe iyo deni waa isku xiranyihiin

waxaa dhici karta inuu waceysle ku soo baxo sida daahir geele oo dhaho aniga hirshabelle ma matalo reer galmudug aan ahay this is between you and the rest of Abgaals

finally Abgaal being in the federal govt will be worse for us it will be close to OG in the federal govt and having JL. Mooge and Fahad deploy divide and conquer tactics not fully with guudlaawe they r using both sides against each other so they can keep Guudlaawe as their hostage to keep him away from the abgaal politicians. the difference is most Abgaals see us as allies oo ku xisaabtama kuraasteena iyo garabkeena in the federal level so if they want to have the hawadle backing they will have to leave hirshabelle for them otherwise they will go to their separate ways we may vote for some HG in the second round if our guy couldnt make the first round but Hiiraan is a sun it cannot be hidden but him without 4.5 based federal post he will be back to irrelevance. my first concerning when it comes to Hiiraan is getting red of Fahad Yasin the guy behind the baadilsoor shit who is behind all the hirshsbelle mess. Mooge thinks if Abgaal had both Banaadir and Hirshabelle it will weaken their federal chances but the root of all evil for us is Fahad Yaasin all the things goodax was saying about Guudlaawe is true but its not his ideas or policy its fahad yaasin and reeriw hassan stuff. since he met Ali mahdi he changed and started looking solution from Hawadle. Fahad yasiin and his reerow hassan ayaa qabiilada hiiraan dhan naga horkeenay including udeejeen inkastoon aaminsanahay in xuquuq ka maqantahay hiiraan laakin jagooyinka ay hiiraan ku heestaan Xamar kuma heestaan. mooge iyo hiiraan intaas kaliya. midka cayilin ibrahim abas ee mid maal dhaweyd soo dhigaayey agoon cabdalle aa dhaleen qabiilada kale uu tirinaaya dhan waa baadilsoor odey kalaa jira asagana udeejeen ah oo afka reerow hassan ku hadla.

Applause Sahal, Masha'Allahi


You have fully explained in details on how Xawadle operate Politically and why they are against Farmaajo because of Faha yaasin internal affair meddling within Beesha Hiiraan, farmaajo is an politician and like all politician he will be gone soon, so beesha MX need to come with an political plan than just attacking anyone who is against them and farmaajo.

Ustaad Sahalow i have no doubt that Beesha Xawadle will regain their Throne in Hirshablle and more just keep up the pressure on mooge farmaajo and whichever President comes after him

[Murax]

Sahal,


Xaadir. If you have your reasons Xawaadle ahaan فتفضل مشكرا

Aniga I am not offended one zilch, at people on Somalinet hating or loving Farmaajo. Qof kaste xaqiis. Now that I know you have personal reasons Xawaadle ahaanthen khalaas cafis Yaa sheeko.

Lakin Bil Caks I laugh at the hateful posts @ Farmaajo here because I know the reality on the ground in Somalia, Mogadishu especially, and that is that Farmaajo, has a immense support Network, and amniga Xamar the capital are firmly in the hands of FGS, Filish, NISA, Farmaajo. A lot of time the hate is desperation and Somalinet=Iskadhaadici-Net. Feb 8, will come and go like any other day.



This is a new day, Culusow, Shariif at best were Xamar mayors. N&N first Gov with influence outside of Xamar, from the Kenyan border in B Xaawo to Gaalkacyo.

[sahal80]

Sahal,


Xaadir. If you have your reasons Xawaadle ahaan فتفضل مشكرا

Aniga I am not offended one zilch, at people on Somalinet hating or loving Farmaajo. Qof kaste xaqiis. Now that I know you have personal reasons Xawaadle ahaanthen khalaas cafis Yaa sheeko.

Lakin Bil Caks I laugh at the hateful posts @ Farmaajo here because I know the reality on the ground in Somalia, Mogadishu especially, and that is that Farmaajo, has a immense support Network, and amniga Xamar the capital are firmly in the hands of FGS, Filish, NISA, Farmaajo. A lot of time the hate is desperation and Somalinet=Iskadhaadici-Net. Feb 8, will come and go like any other day.



This is a new day, Culusow, Shariif at best were Xamar mayors. N&N first Gov with influence outside of Xamar, from the Kenyan border in B Xaawo to Gaalkacyo.

firstly me i dont think from Hawadle perspective maybe about 40%. i have clashed with them over Kheyre when he was new they used to like him as not being Hiraab and the funny thing i ended up supporting him after he started consparing against Mooge and they became against him in 2019 at the same time for his negligence towards hiiraan and the missing italian and chinese funds for Hiiraan they were like wtf is wrong with this guy? i swear to god i was avoiding to talk shit against Kheyre in front of them in his first two years they thought i was influenced by my HG social milieu. Hawadle did not support N&N but they were like we dont care about Xamar but now as fahad yasiin started threatening their hirshabelle and Hiiraan interests they jumped on the mucaarad bandwagon and im like welcome tolka!

this means dont judge me on my hawadle background when it cones to the federal politics

lastly you saying hawadle wanting Abgaal led FGS is like saying mx want ing OG led federal Govt when you already iska kicin la dihiin and fir their alliance with PL imaging having the pm? us and abgaal had no existing conflict but hirshabelle will be like banaadir under Abgaal federal govt. Non Abgaal led FGS will be against any connection with Banaadir and Xamar and warsheekh and ceelmacaan port. rhey r more like to support Cadale port 130km from Xamar ans connecting it to Ethipia via Hiiraan. current Hirshabelle is unfluenced by reerow hassan the second speaker is like its local fahad this guy controls guudlaawe and the parliament like their Abdinuur in Xamar waana sanabta aan diidanahay in Hiiraan xamar la mid noqoto ots very tradirional region like PL and waqooyi we dont wanna to run by whoever popes up.

Kees

Thanks bro.
Fahad Yaasiin wuxuu lacag badan ku baxshey 14 qabiil oo idaacadaha iyo hotelada xamar bas ka jira laakin jahligooda qabiiladaan inta ka degta hiiraan oo hal iyo labo qabiil ka badneen relay on Al shabaab they call themselves al ansaar. when i was in xaafadaha gugundhabaha in 2017 it was like ciid day no music, makrafoono nashiid iyo quran ah dad wada afduuban oo salafi ah meel saan ah maa hirshabelle taageero ka heli kartaa
kuwo badan al shabaab aa leysey oo xafadooda jooga qaar kale al shabaab aa dul dhigtey $100k iyo $50k inay isku furtaan waxaana ogaadey sida ay mafia al shabaab u tahay anagey naga baryaan inaan ka bixino waa niman ugaasyo iyo nabadoono ah xaafad Al shabaab ah hirshabelle ka taageeray qaar xamar u cararey oon soo noqon karin.
Hirshabelles fahad yasin.

[FarhanYare]

Sahal,

Yaa Tayyib I believe in mawaaqif mukhtalif. Farmaajo Nabi maaha anybody, and everybody can, and should disagree with him if they want. Caytame, Abkowdhiblaawe, Kees70, FarhanYare, Zidane and more people I can count hate him and for the most part I don’t attack them for it.

Lakin adiga I disrespect your position the most because it comes from a place of daciifnimo, lack of raggnimo. The people I mentioned who hate Farmaajo have their reasons. Lakin adiga you never from day 1 supported him because you are threatened if a Marexaan has that seat, PM goes somewhere else, your HirShabeele thing is threatened. Your whole ‘HAG’ thing waa Kadib foqal Kadib


Lakin a noble, sharaf, Cizzi position would have been I don’t give a damn who is in one seat, waxaan anaa xaqq u leh and I’m taking it. Lakin I find it frigging weak for you to beg for Abgal to get a position, so they will leave you alone for yours. Iska Celi dadka if that’s how you feel. So now you finally know why I disrespect your position disproportionately to others. In reality I could give a damn who hates or loves Farmaajo, I just hate when men think their destiny relies on other people’s positions!

Last but definitely not least its not the lies or the whole HAG BS, cuqdad I find annoying, but the fact that you insult our intelligence by trying to make us believe it’s otherwise

Everyone of these people you mentioned, are against Farmaajo for the same reason as Sahal. They are all protecting their own interests.
Now the reason why you dont attack them is, its easier to attack Sahal because he doesn't have a gang of posses, his maybe not versed in English as well as the others, maybe he will take the high road by ignoring you, or he might bite and get emotional looking silly in the process. All in all you display all the signs of coward who picks on people because you feel like you can win. You shy away from those who will challenge you.

Sahal, is a legend in this forum, even though I have at times had my differences. His contribution is worth applauding even if you disagree. Its high time these boons from Ghetto, who go a round the forum like some hungry hyenas learn to appreciate the Sahal instead of always making things personal. We are here to expressing our opinions so not everyone will share yours but keep things respectful.

SMH this guy! Sahal and Murax are friends stop meddling in. I remember one time out of the blue you attacking me for not taking seriously what some mj kids were posting on a thread about HAG in general. Dude stay the eff out of Zoomaalia issues!

[Murax]

Thanks for clarifying, Sahal and I alway had a cool relationship, hence my references to him as Ustaadh, Sheekh, etc.

Lakin ha layaabin Gen Duufle aka whatever he calls himself now. He’s not normal, nor has he ever been.

[Murax]

Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Sahal has been spot on. He predicted weeks ago about this upcoming conference at a time all the MXs where saying no more meetings. Doorasha dhici baq baq.

You’re right, we were wrong

[Nomand]

Gaal dil gartiisana sii. Sahal has been spot on. He predicted weeks ago about this upcoming conference at a time all the MXs where saying no more meetings. Doorasha dhici baq baq.

I said it was dullinimo when they named the guddi after they were told. I never said there would or wouldn’t be another meeting, I don’t know the ghayb. Besides We’re in February people will have to meet at some point. Where I stand corrected is where is the ‘Parallel process’ ‘Wallahi Thumma Thumma Thumma’ ‘Xoog takeover etc? That is what Sahal, yourself, many others promised, but I will continue to wait patiently.


Gacmaha daalay Culusow sidu warqado u qoraayay Beesha 6aad, he had to start using a thesaurus for new words

Sxb how come Abdi nuur went all the way to Cadale to try to make a deal with Saneey Abdulle if they weren't afraid of SNA's 27th division?



Sxb we'll see by February, I'll be man enough to admit if I'm wrong.

It is now February 2022 one year later. Are you going to admit you where wrong?