The attack on Odawaa (Future President of Somalia) will be the straw that broke the Camel's back for Puntland

[Voltage]

Like I said I believe there is a deal already and it doesn't include the Security points, but have looked into Mogadishu's state---who ever advised Puntland to include Odawaa even if it's a moot point was a genius.

Ever single Islaan in Xamar whether selling yaanyo in Siinaay or Khat in Abdiaziiz or Shaax on Liido Beach is up in arms

Odawaa is the single MOST popular public figure in Somalia---bar none. From Beled-Xaawo to Baraawe, Xudur to Harardheere, Baalidoogle to Bandiiradlay, every single Somali boy sees him as their most visible role model

He is even more special to the boys of Xamar given his indigenous roots and the Mothers of Xamar's boys who are see him as like their own son

Deni thought he was in a political battle with Farmaajo, but he just activated the community anger him and Madasha have been trying to activate.

Hell hath no fury like an angry Mother Bear.

[Murax]

Couldn’t agree more. The least popular amongst Somali politicians (Deni Caloolay) having the audacity to say something about one of Somalia’s own, most revered figure (Odowaa). Horta kuwaanayto Yaa u taliyo. Is this all just a scheme and are they really Pro N&N?

Where is brother Abkowdhiblaawe, is he going to take the lackey Shariif position and co-sign this?

[BigBreak]

Couldn’t agree more. The least popular amongst Somali politicians (Deni Caloolay) having the audacity to say something about one of Somalia’s own, most revered figure (Odowaa). Horta kuwaanayto Yaa u taliyo. Is this all just a scheme and are they really Pro N&N?

Where is brother Abkowdhiblaawe, is he going to take the lackey Shariif position and co-sign this?

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Of course you will hype this saqiir servant. He is not even independent of his work. Maxamed tahliil biixi is the real taliyaha xooga dalka. Siciid Kampala, ina tahliil biixi, xijaar and dayax kaadirinta kacaanka.

Ppl up in Arms kuye. Finish, Xundubeey,Geedi,Odawaa are despised by tolka.

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

Of course you will hype this saqiir servant. He is not even independent of his work. Maxamed tahliil biixi is the real taliyaha xooga dalka. Siciid Kampala, ina tahliil biixi, xijaar and dayax kaadirinta kacaanka.

Ppl up in Arms kuye. Finish, Xundubeey,Geedi,Odawaa are despised by tolka.

Wait, why is Odawaa despised by tolka? What has he done to be despised for? What am I missing here?

[barbarossa]

In Skinny clan code of conduct, any Faarax who deviates the slightest from 'tol' stance vis-a-avis a rival qabiil, is automatically shunned by majority of other beel members, and it is even, in some cases, wholly disowned for his indiscretion.

[Murax]

Of course you will hype this saqiir servant. He is not even independent of his work. Maxamed tahliil biixi is the real taliyaha xooga dalka. Siciid Kampala, ina tahliil biixi, xijaar and dayax kaadirinta kacaanka.

Ppl up in Arms kuye. Finish, Xundubeey,Geedi,Odawaa are despised by tolka.

Wow, someone who actually fought in his home region, risked his life is looked at lower than some calooshood u shaqeysteyaal like Culusow, Shariif who never picked up a gun one day, slept in trenches, skipped meals. Cajiib.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Of course you will hype this saqiir servant. He is not even independent of his work. Maxamed tahliil biixi is the real taliyaha xooga dalka. Siciid Kampala, ina tahliil biixi, xijaar and dayax kaadirinta kacaanka.

Ppl up in Arms kuye. Finish, Xundubeey,Geedi,Odawaa are despised by tolka.

Wow, someone who actually fought in his home region, risked his life is looked at lower than some calooshood u shaqeysteyaal like Culusow, Shariif who never picked up a gun one day, slept in trenches, skipped meals. Cajiib.

Iga qaleey Eebow the night Dowladda attacked NH2 a veteran called Ali Jubba was martyred . He served with Odawaa since 2009 .the day after another famous veteran called Abkoow Cambuure who was Yariisow's head of staff at one point got killed in daljirka by a Dhulos military guard. Odawaa will have the same fate as Geedi isolated within beesha.

Secondly let me correct you Sheikh Shariif actually fought in Jubba hotel area and his life was in danger several times. Read Harun Marufs "Inside Al shabab"..

Thirdly sheikh Shariif waa halyeey man. When he was a teacher in Towfiiq around 2004 one of his students from the 0.5 clans was missing in the classroom when Shariifka asked the students where the boy (mohamed arab) was, he was told he got kidnapped for a randsom by mooryaans belonging to Shariifs subclan in Sii Sii. Shariifka dismissed the class went straight home took his AK47 headed to the infamous garage in Sii Sii. He freed the boy took him home. The man is legend who is geesi. The other candidates ain't close to Shariifka when it comes to geesanimo.

[Murax]

Abkowdhiblaawe,


Aniga meeshayda maaha inaa kaaga hadlo beel ahaan yaa xaq u leh inaad taageertid. That's a personal call, my bad. Cidaa jeclaatid adigay ku taala.


That being said, let me tell you one thing Somalis will die for, even at the expense of lacag, and that is their clan being victimized by another clan. I don't think Ilaa Yawm Qiyaama Somalis will ever leave that. I also have a problem with what you are saying because no offense eebow is if this supposed killer was say Mudulood, you wouldn't be as torn up as a Dhulbahante. There is a thinking of it is xaaraan to have a Darood, Non-Hawiye in Xamar who is a Government soldier. I'm sorry, if Farmaajo had a Darood militia in Xamar terrorizing Hawiye,

A) It wouldn't be a secret, and would ABSOLUTELY go viral in the age of social media, information age.

B)Hawiye wouldn't accept it, and every able bodied Hawiye would pick up a gun head to Villa Somalia.

C) Farmaajo wouldn't survive in Xamar, with a population that is enraged. Villa Somalia is not in some bunker underground, its in the middle of a xaafad. Best Case scenario Beesha 6aad would get involved and tell Farmaajo he has to go.


I'm sorry these are bullshyt stories Shariif, Culusow desperately try to peedle as they try their absolute best to recreate 1991 by creating this bullshyt narrative. The rest of Hawiye, and even most Mudulood themselves I think haven't brought it. That said it doesn't matter if I think its bullshyt, the people of Xamar Hawiye themselves know its bullshyt. If I was advising Madasha I would advise them find another card to play.

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

Murax,

The era where the entire clan saw things from the one perspective is over. You can't group all Abgaal into one basket, let alone Hawiye. Today, we have Somalis from all clans supporting Farmaajo's political party (Nabad iyo Nolol). That's why it's very hard to challenge Farmaajo's political domination currently. He's got supporters from Awdal all the way to Kismaayo. Compare that with HSM or Sheikh Shariff. Their support comes predominately from their sub sub-clan within Abgaal. You will NOT find a Somali from Sanaag or Awdal or Togdheer or Mudug or even Lower Jubba that supports either man. This is the problem with Madasha. Their support base is very limited.

AbkoowDhiblaawe,

If HSM or Sheikh Shariff joined Nabad iyo Nolol, you will distance yourself from them.

[Murax]

Murax,

The era where the entire clan saw things from the one perspective is over. You can't group all Abgaal into one basket, let alone Hawiye. Today, we have Somalis from all clans supporting Farmaajo's political party (Nabad iyo Nolol). That's why it's very hard to challenge Farmaajo's political domination currently. He's got supporters from Awdal all the way to Kismaayo. Compare that with HSM or Sheikh Shariff. Their support comes predominately from their sub sub-clan within Abgaal. You will NOT find a Somali from Sanaag or Awdal or Togdheer or Mudug or even Lower Jubba that supports either man. This is the problem with Madasha. Their support base is very limited.

AbkoowDhiblaawe,

If HSM or Sheikh Shariff joined Nabad iyo Nolol, you will distance yourself from them.

I agree with you, you pointed out N&Ns faults, they have many but overall I'm not being biased when I say its the first party that has cross clan support that you cannot pigeon hole into one, or even a few clans. Closest analogy would be Al Shaydaan, but they are deranged, foreign funded group. This support though that N&N gets enrages the politicians who for decades operated on the Clan X Vs Clan Y currency. I do not believe for one second even 15% of Abgal support Shariif, Culusow, and this is what is driving them insane. Many, many times you hear them talk in 1991 tones, which they thought would be a signal that would galvanize their Tol, but it didn't much to their dismay.

The likes of Deni, Faroole get enraged at Puntlanders wanted to protest Pro N&N, and can't understand why they are not siding with them for Tolnimo purposes.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

Looks like there is an internal Abgaal strife.

You know someone wants to use the clan-card for his own personal gains when he brings in Siyaad Barre into the conversation to get a reaction from his people. But, 70% of the Somali population in Mogadishu are under 30 years of age. They barely remember Abdullahi Yusuf's TNG of 2005-06, let alone Siyaad Barre who left power in 1991.

[Murax]

Abkodhiblaawe,

That's a funny video. I don't say that to be sarcastic, but the very video you proved my point. In the video he said 'ama talo keen ahow ama talo raac. dadka qanci isku keen'. Okay, so let me get this straight:

HirShabeele President: GuudLaawe
Benadir Mayor Omar Finnish
GalMudug President: QoorQoor
Prime Minister: Roolble
SW State President: Laftagareen
Lower House Parlimient: Mursal

Farmaajo has reached Itifaaq with them ages ago. You know damn well why the election got delayed and its not about not reaching out to people, but Puntland, Jubbaland who have their own seperate agendas that have NOTHING to do with the people in that video who I am assuming are Benadir/Mudulood. Dadki iyaga matala Farmaajo reached Itifaaq with long ago.

Shariif, Culusow, dadkaas qeylinaayo in the video is all part of oloole doorasho, they have NO reason to say Farmaajo did not reach political settlements with their political establishment ages ago. 'Anaga Doorasho baan rabnaa' what BS. Like I said Shariif, Culusow were in cahoots, and cucks for Madoobe, Deni Caloolay are simply salty that they were not able to do their part of the bargain with Puntland, Jubbaland. They were supposed to delay the elections which they did, while Madasha do inqilaab by force. They couldn't, and the whole plan went to shyt. That's why they're crying. After the daaro, waabasho I guess now the plan is to paint themselves as masaakiin, play the sympathy card by going and doing everything they can to get shot at to get people's emotions up. Duliyaal fowqal duliyaal.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Abkodhiblaawe,

That's a funny video. I don't say that to be sarcastic, but the very video you proved my point. In the video he said 'ama talo keen ahow ama talo raac. dadka qanci isku keen'. Okay, so let me get this straight:

HirShabeele President: GuudLaawe
Benadir Mayor Omar Finnish
GalMudug President: QoorQoor
Prime Minister: Roolble
SW State President: Laftagareen
Lower House Parlimient: Mursal

Farmaajo has reached Itifaaq with them ages ago. You know damn well why the election got delayed and its not about not reaching out to people, but Puntland, Jubbaland who have their own seperate agendas that have NOTHING to do with the people in that video who I am assuming are Benadir/Mudulood. Dadki iyaga matala Farmaajo reached Itifaaq with long ago.

Shariif, Culusow, dadkaas qeylinaayo in the video is all part of oloole doorasho, they have NO reason to say Farmaajo did not reach political settlements with their political establishment ages ago. 'Anaga Doorasho baan rabnaa' what BS. Like I said Shariif, Culusow were in cahoots, and cucks for Madoobe, Deni Caloolay are simply salty that they were not able to do their part of the bargain with Puntland, Jubbaland. They were supposed to delay the elections which they did, while Madasha do inqilaab by force. They couldn't, and the whole plan went to shyt. That's why they're crying. After the daaro, waabasho I guess now the plan is to paint themselves as masaakiin, play the sympathy card by going and doing everything they can to get shot at to get people's emotions up. Duliyaal fowqal duliyaal.

Guudlaawe was installed.
Qoorqoor was installed
Lafta gareen was installed.

Mursal was installed too. Don't forget N&N cut the electricity n water of his house when he started critizing N&N...

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