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abdirasheed Janan

Postby Nomand » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:37 pm

i want to address my thoughts on Janan and the fake crocodile tears i have been witnessing today. Let me first start with that i 100 percent believe that Janan is a dog that needs to be put down that he has bloods on his hands and that he will get what is coming for him.

now saying all of that, i want to remind MX that abdirashid Janan victims where all reer gedo MX and that is future victims would have been MX if this deal did not go through. abdirashid janan has not killed a single MJ or ogadeen or Hawiye and that we MX are his victims and that we MX are the only people that can hold him accountable or should rightfully be angry at him. So mahad salad or abdishakur or deni have no say in this whatsoever specially since they where cheering for him when he attacked beledxaawo twice.

the reasons why i opened this thread is to expand on what i said here: https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=402545
What Nicolas said is the truth, but while Hitler (madoobe) is walking free in mogadishu, Goebbels ( janan) can also walk free in beledxaawo.

In a fair world madoobe should be shot then followed by janan, but I don't see Nicolas condemning either janans boss madoobe or even madoobe's boss uhuru.

But I am glad he at least acknowledged the victims even if he selectively condemned the perpetrators. Which ironically goes against the statement he wrote.
which was in response to:


having thought about it more i want to expose the fake ironic outcry from MR Nicolas. Janan was not a lone wolf, everything janan done was endorsed supported and planned by Madobe and Uhuru. Janan did not have the means nor the name to carry out the attacks on beledxaawo in 2020 and 2021. Janan was using his ministerial position within the Madoobe regime which the Djibouti report confirmed. the Djibouti report said that "Janan is a jubbaland minister and that only jubbaland and SFG are fighting not Kenya"

but i want to thank MR Nicolas for confirming for the first time that the attacks that took place in beledxaawo in 2020 and 2021 where infact crimes against humanity and that Janan should face justice but i want to remind MR Nicolas that Janan is not the president of Jubbaland and that during the battles of beledxaawo, Janan was under the employment of Madoobe. Janan was fired today by Madoobe not in before or after the or during 2020 battle.

so why don't you MR Niccolas take a leaf out of your book and condemn the boss of janan. when we all know janan was just a foot soldier, heck if madoobe died a week ago who would be in line to take over? is janan even in the top 10 list? so why judge the soldier but not the leader? why not have the same convictions against Madoobe who ordered those killing you are condemning the man who armed janan.

my last point is to MX don't apologise to anyone. today many lives where saved and mothers can sleep safe in beledxaawo knowing that a mortar won't hit their house and kill their children. imagine the leader of al shabaab says to the government i am willing to surender myself including all my weapons and soldiers and the only thing i ask in return is amnesty for myself and my top commanders. If a president refuses that then any person killed from then onwards their blood would be on the presidents hands.

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Postby WadaniggaBarakaysan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:46 pm

I want to correct myself. In another thread, I was against Janan being welcomed. I was laughing at what transpired. After reading countless articles and hearing news about this, I have changed my stance on the matter.

Anyone who wants to see Janan imprisoned or worse executed is an enemy of the state. Farmaajo's administration conducted itself in a manner never seen in Somali politics. Ever. This will go down in history. Farmaajo's administration in the art of diplomacy is ahead of ALL Somali factions and the opposition by 30 years (minimum). The ability to persuade a factional leader who was being supported by Kenya, one of the most powerful nations in Africa is in of itself deserving a standing ovation.

Janan's reconciliation has saved lives. It has given Farmaajo's administration further legitimacy. It has strengthen Marehan unity and furthermore it has turned Jubbaland towards the direction of reconciliation, unity and accountability.

Kudos to Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo and his administration in winning this chess move.

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby SultanOrder » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:51 pm

I co-sign. 100%

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby paperino » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:56 pm

I want to correct myself. In another thread, I was against Janan being welcomed. I was laughing at what transpired. After reading countless articles and hearing news about this, I have changed my stance on the matter.

Anyone who wants to see Janan imprisoned or worse executed is an enemy of the state. Farmaajo's administration conducted itself in a manner never seen in Somali politics. Ever. This will go down in history. Farmaajo's administration in the art of diplomacy is ahead of ALL Somali factions and the opposition by 30 years (minimum). The ability to persuade a factional leader who was being supported by Kenya, one of the most powerful nations in Africa is in of itself deserving a standing ovation.

Janan's reconciliation has saved lives. It has given Farmaajo's administration further legitimacy. It has strengthen Marehan unity and furthermore it has turned Jubbaland towards the direction of reconciliation, unity and accountability.

Kudos to Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo and his administration in winning this chess move.
Farmaajo has a number of foreign counselors (consigliere) and strategists, so a portion of the credit should be accorded them.

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby Shirib » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:57 pm

In the future if Janan wants to become head of Gedo or Jubbaland should he be allowed to?

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby SultanOrder » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:07 pm

In the future if Janan wants to become head of Gedo or Jubbaland should he be allowed to?
Absolutely not and hopefully we have a president that stops him.

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:18 pm

In the future if Janan wants to become head of Gedo or Jubbaland should he be allowed to?
Absolutely not and hopefully we have a president that stops him.

Out with the old. In with the new :up:

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Postby WadaniggaBarakaysan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:48 pm

I want to correct myself. In another thread, I was against Janan being welcomed. I was laughing at what transpired. After reading countless articles and hearing news about this, I have changed my stance on the matter.

Anyone who wants to see Janan imprisoned or worse executed is an enemy of the state. Farmaajo's administration conducted itself in a manner never seen in Somali politics. Ever. This will go down in history. Farmaajo's administration in the art of diplomacy is ahead of ALL Somali factions and the opposition by 30 years (minimum). The ability to persuade a factional leader who was being supported by Kenya, one of the most powerful nations in Africa is in of itself deserving a standing ovation.

Janan's reconciliation has saved lives. It has given Farmaajo's administration further legitimacy. It has strengthen Marehan unity and furthermore it has turned Jubbaland towards the direction of reconciliation, unity and accountability.

Kudos to Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo and his administration in winning this chess move.
Farmaajo has a number of foreign counselors (consigliere) and strategists, so a portion of the credit should be accorded them.
I have no doubt about that.

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby Nomand » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:54 pm

In the future if Janan wants to become head of Gedo or Jubbaland should he be allowed to?
Absolutely not and hopefully we have a president that stops him.
:up:

Janan should never hold office. Janan should help the government with jubbaland reconciliation then retire for good.

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby Nomand » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:56 pm

I want to correct myself. In another thread, I was against Janan being welcomed. I was laughing at what transpired. After reading countless articles and hearing news about this, I have changed my stance on the matter.

Anyone who wants to see Janan imprisoned or worse executed is an enemy of the state. Farmaajo's administration conducted itself in a manner never seen in Somali politics. Ever. This will go down in history. Farmaajo's administration in the art of diplomacy is ahead of ALL Somali factions and the opposition by 30 years (minimum). The ability to persuade a factional leader who was being supported by Kenya, one of the most powerful nations in Africa is in of itself deserving a standing ovation.

Janan's reconciliation has saved lives. It has given Farmaajo's administration further legitimacy. It has strengthen Marehan unity and furthermore it has turned Jubbaland towards the direction of reconciliation, unity and accountability.

Kudos to Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo and his administration in winning this chess move.
It would have been irresponsible and idiotic for the government not to take the deal.

Lives where saved today and a chapter in the somali civil war was closed.

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby WadaniggaBarakaysan » Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:02 pm

In the future if Janan wants to become head of Gedo or Jubbaland should he be allowed to?
Absolutely not and hopefully we have a president that stops him.
:up:

Janan should never hold office. Janan should help the government with jubbaland reconciliation then retire for good.
You cannot prevent a citizen of Somalia from running for office. You have the likes of Cabdi Qaybdiid as a Senator when he has done FAR more henious crimes against humanity than Janan. Janan has every right to run for office and if he is selected or elected then so be it.

Don't be like the opposition who are working tooth and nail in trying to prevent Farmaajo from running for re-election. :lol:

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby Sbashi » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:07 pm



Absolutely not and hopefully we have a president that stops him.
:up:

Janan should never hold office. Janan should help the government with jubbaland reconciliation then retire for good.
You cannot prevent a citizen of Somalia from running for office. You have the likes of Cabdi Qaybdiid as a Senator when he has done FAR more henious crimes against humanity than Janan. Janan has every right to run for office and if he is selected or elected then so be it.

Don't be like the opposition who are working tooth and nail in trying to prevent Farmaajo from running for re-election. :lol:
He did it FOR his clan who made him their senator. While Janan did it TO his clan who WILL NOT make him the senator. It's that simple.

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Postby Murax » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:14 pm

Nomand, very balanced, realistic take, and I co-sign you 100%. To me things flipped I saw Reer Beledxaawo his primary victims welcome him, which made me take even myself out of the equation. Punks like Mahad Salaad have no say, it’s not like Janaan hurt anyone in Beledweyne. Unlike Roobow he didn’t go fighting all over the south. The forgiveness or lack of forgiveness is up to them, and I think it’s silly to use crocodile tears of shameless, hypocritical dogs like Berlanga, others to further establish why Janaan absolutely must be punished.

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby grandpakhalif » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:39 pm

I want to correct myself. In another thread, I was against Janan being welcomed. I was laughing at what transpired. After reading countless articles and hearing news about this, I have changed my stance on the matter.

Anyone who wants to see Janan imprisoned or worse executed is an enemy of the state. Farmaajo's administration conducted itself in a manner never seen in Somali politics. Ever. This will go down in history. Farmaajo's administration in the art of diplomacy is ahead of ALL Somali factions and the opposition by 30 years (minimum). The ability to persuade a factional leader who was being supported by Kenya, one of the most powerful nations in Africa is in of itself deserving a standing ovation.

Janan's reconciliation has saved lives. It has given Farmaajo's administration further legitimacy. It has strengthen Marehan unity and furthermore it has turned Jubbaland towards the direction of reconciliation, unity and accountability.

Kudos to Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo and his administration in winning this chess move.
Well said! The arres of Janan would breedmore hatred and clan revenge attacks would have increased. Farmaajo wa Nabadoon he has won the hearts of the minds of his enemies. Sometimes the carrot is better than the stick

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Re: abdirasheed Janan

Postby WadaniggaBarakaysan » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:30 pm



:up:

Janan should never hold office. Janan should help the government with jubbaland reconciliation then retire for good.
You cannot prevent a citizen of Somalia from running for office. You have the likes of Cabdi Qaybdiid as a Senator when he has done FAR more henious crimes against humanity than Janan. Janan has every right to run for office and if he is selected or elected then so be it.

Don't be like the opposition who are working tooth and nail in trying to prevent Farmaajo from running for re-election. :lol:
He did it FOR his clan who made him their senator. While Janan did it TO his clan who WILL NOT make him the senator. It's that simple.
I understand, but there is currently nothing anyone can do to prevent him from running for any office.


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