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New Jubbaland state/admin underway

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New Jubbaland state/admin underway

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby GuleedWarsame » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:17 pm

I would suggest three things for them.

1. The new admin must be fair on all levels to the inhabitants. Including fair representation. Laying the foundation right is worth it.

2. The capital must be in Gedo region solely because most of the opposition to the now defunct JL admin is based in Gedo. Baardhere or Garbaharey is good choices.

3. New name for the state is needed. Jubbaland is too associated with warlords, foreign influence and injustice.
Jubba State is good name imo.

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby Murax » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:31 pm

Ugaasyada Beesha Sade Jubbaland, Mudug in the building

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby BigBreak » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:44 pm

Where's brother Caytame atm I'd love to have heard what his opinions are

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby nine » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:47 pm

All was needed to declare a parallel fiefdom with a random nigga as fiefdom President. But we don't wanna get our hands dirty anymore for silly reasons.

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby guhad122 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:39 pm

Where's brother Caytame atm I'd love to have heard what his opinions are
From the days of Barre Bootin Dheere to the Farmaajism era, Beesha C/Waaq and Garbahaarey must have held at least 100 conferences for the purported Jubaland elders, and yet there is nothing to show for. You can go to Muqdisho, gather some elders with cimaamad from the streets, and call them "Odayaasha Beesha". If anything, Farmaajo has united Reer Jubaland with the exception of his Reer Diini subclan. For a long time, he wanted Jubaland to attack Buaale to stretch the forces, but no one fell for Hurdaaye tricks. Now, let us see if his Haramac or Gorgor or whatever he calls them can capture Buaale.

In terms of Janan, Jubaland has known that he was an agent of Farmaajo since his supposed and daring escape from prison :lol: Before Janan incident, there were sectors within the OG who were not content with Madoobe policies, but luckily OGs are 100% united and that is the blessing from Farmaajo.
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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby Gubbet » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:35 pm

Guhad, this is when I sometimes think you are child.

Take it from me as someone who you think is your worst enemy, but is probably the most conciliatory towards Ogaden than in an average group of Marehan and wants to see a Jubbaland built with both of our support as opposed to at the expense of the other.

1. Marehan has money, weapons, and they are united right now.

2. Furthermore, they have made a case that is now the unanimous understanding in the national and Donor consensus; namely that Jubbaland never took off because it was not natural reflection of cold hard law of the Jungle as what the Federal States are supposed to be; i.e. "spheres of influence" of thr dominant regional powers.

3. A Train miles away looks as fast as a turtle but once it creeps closer, it flies by faster than a bullet. Marehan don't have their two highest Ugaas out for a meeting with a Minister when their son is President if this wasn't a highly organized and planned delicate place setting act beginning the start of a grande play that will woow wooo.

Kenya is not your "friend." Kenya goes by interest---and those interests have changed.

If you notice, even the Rashid Abdis and Matt Brydens have slowly started to pivot away, closing down shop on this issue.

And there is no Abdi Ilay and Yussuf Haji to play last emissaries.

Ogaden need to learn from their mistake in so many cases before.

The man may even die today, but the Clan lives.

Is the Man representing the Clan or is the Clan representing the Man?

If Madoobe loves his Clan more than apparently his Clan love him, he would make sure they are better off than he is no matter what happens by starting to tell them to think of the Clan first.

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:05 pm

I would suggest three things for them.

1. The new admin must be fair on all levels to the inhabitants. Including fair representation. Laying the foundation right is worth it.

2. The capital must be in Gedo region solely because most of the opposition to the now defunct JL admin is based in Gedo. Baardhere or Garbaharey is good choices.

3. New name for the state is needed. Jubbaland is too associated with warlords, foreign influence and injustice.
Jubba State is good name imo.

Jubaland is a historic name. It denotes the Juba river and the land it passes through. The constitution and flag however should be changed. Lastly, I think Garbaharey will be the capital moreso than Bardera. Bardera will be a cosmopolitan city like Garbaharey; Bardera will be due to its location and luscious farms. Best places to invest in the future will be Garbaharey, Beledxawo, and Bardera. They’ll be the best cities. Luuq, Buurdhubo, Doolow will be boom due to their agriculture and their location on lucrative trade routes.

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby Murax » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:52 am

Absolutely not Garbaharey, Baardheere should be the capital. It is a historic town that is known all over Somalia from the time of the Ajuraan till now. Distance wise it borders Middle Jubba so it is in the middle of Jubbaland.

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:59 am

Absolutely not Garbaharey, Baardheere should be the capital. It is a historic town that is known all over Somalia from the time of the Ajuraan till now. Distance wise it borders Middle Jubba so it is in the middle of Jubbaland.
It’ll be Garbaharey most likely and geographically Garbaharey is the middle of Jubaland. But Baardheere is close to Middle and Lower Juba. You do have a valid argument.

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby BigBreak » Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:09 am

Interesting Guhad

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Re: New Jubbaland state/admin underway

Postby DaahirMursal » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:18 pm

Just about how many times did the descendants of Hirabu ibn Goita Tedros state: 'Jubbaland oo halaal ah waan suuganaysaa' ? :snoop:

Give up, my fellow midgo cousins, for JL will always be under the hegemony of the Long Foots. :lol:

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