They have taken 80 % of Mogadishu where the hell is Amisom ?

[SunFromNorth]

They have overrun Mogadishu the city has fallen. The government and Amisom only controls one neighborhood!! where the hell is Amisom forces and all the troops trained by Turkey ? they are now very close to Villa Somalia. Only in Somalia what a joke. It took few days to rebel and overrun the entire thing. Every heard of a country other than our one where the police joins rebels and has no loyalty towards their own nationhood ?

[Nolol cusub]

They have overrun Mogadishu the city has fallen. The government and Amisom only controls one neighborhood!! where the hell is Amisom forces and all the troops trained by Turkey ? they are now very close to Villa Somalia. Only in Somalia what a joke. It took few days to rebel and overrun the entire thing. Every heard of a country other than our one where the police joins rebels and has no loyalty towards their own nationhood ?

You know Mogadishu people are 95% Hawiye, the economy and the army/clan militia are also 95% Hawiye. What do you expect, the African Union fighting for a warlord from Gedo with an expired mandate? Even if he has a mandate AU would have zero chance in a Mogadishu battle(why fight when you can collect a billion dollar in your sleep".)

Also, the taxes collected in Mogadishu are now being rerouted to Mogadishu's real representative.

[Gubbet]

I recently read something you wrote from so long ago Nolol Cusub.

From my writing you could tell I was a child, lackadaisically ignorant, goofball.

You were not.

Yet in the future, we traded places.

How unfortunate for one of us.

[DaahirMursal]

Saxiib, AMISOM is only there for the Malay. They ain’t doing shit.

It solely relies on the decision making and responsible of the denizens of Mog if they want respectability once again.

[Nolol cusub]

I recently read something you wrote from so long ago Nolol Cusub.

From my writing you could tell I was a child, lackadaisically ignorant, goofball.

You were not.

Yet in the future, we traded places.

How unfortunate for one of us.

Ok kid. Say something that makes sense. It is ok to support your Gedo warlord out of qabiil I can understand that, but stop speaking on behalf of others, for "the best interest of Somalia". If your people are from Gedo focus on your state, build it, be proud of it. Your people are the most misguided lot in Somalia. You literally gamble your people lives with delusional power hungry dreams. It is beyond sad. Even Rahanweyn understands that progressive Somalia can only be built from ground up, through the states.


Now, use this logic to see how insane and off the reservation you and your power hungry people are:

Probably, you live in America or Europe. You know every 4 years your city and your country elects a mayor, a governor, and a president respectively. We all want that, that is democracy, right, majority rules. Now when 95% Mogadishu people are Hawiye and want to elect their own, to have one of their own run their economy, re-allocate their taxes to their neighborhood THAT IS A BAD THING. Why? Because your lazy ass parasite people don't want have honest living in Gedo.


Don't say the warlord from Gedo wants 1 vote 1 person . His actions in Galmudug state elections was a colossal mistake on his part. It proved he was no friend to Somali democracy, he was using somali federal income to expand his autocratic reach. More importantly he got the undivided attention Habargidir clan. Then he pissed off Abgaal by saying they were his guest.


Low IQ + Zero experience in pastoral politics, + propensity to overreach aggressively has cost your lot another chance to rule Somalia.

From now on focus on Gedo, redeem yourselves if you can and hope no one remembers your stunts for the last 4 years.

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[Gubbet]

A lot of the concerns you listed are valid on their own merit and are universally shared even by the overwhelming majority of human beings

Yet, you don't see that it's not because of lack of clouds rain hasn't come, but that there isn't any condensation eminating ground up to pull together enough to be become clouds to give precipitation back as rain.

You think small, limited, narrow, condensed and so whatever results from utilizing that deficit is small, limited, narrow, condensed.

Let's use taxes as an example (which makes me laugh when Guled Wiliq on Twitter uses it so much to the detriment of his impression).

1. You think there is an "economy" in Somalia (any part of it) that produces "tax."
2. You think there is any "tax" that is an indispensable component of any budget any where in Somalia.
3. You think that Mogadishu living and breathing human citizenry is represented by a clan.
4. You think that taxes are paid by Mogadishu citizenry that is any part of the economy of Somalia.
5. Finally, you think that institutional entities located in Mogadishu having been buit there on the agreed upon basis of being equally owned by all within Somalia belong to a clan or that even that the institutions themselves yet generate revenue that sustains even their own budget to function.

I touched upon a lot of these in various posts. I will not regurgitate another sentence to something so demonstrably misinformed.

I will, however, encourage you to read the many wonderful research insights in recent IMF/World Bank publications on reengaging with Somalia.

I am sure you will be extremely disabused of your limited assumptions about this entire subject.

Finally, my whole point is this 1991 narrative seems credible to you because you can't see any further than what is AVAILABLE for you to see with---and what is AVAILABLE for you is yet not past meager.

Broaden your ability to be informed and I will guarantee you, your understanding will broaden.

[Nolol cusub]

A lot of the concerns you listed are valid on their own merit and are universally shared even by the overwhelming majority of human beings

Yet, you don't see that it's not because of lack of clouds rain hasn't come, but that there isn't any condensation eminating ground up to pull together enough to be become clouds to give precipitation back as rain.


Broaden your ability to be informed and I will guarantee you, your understanding will broaden.

I can't follow your writings but here is a basic 101 of Somali politics.

1. Because of pastoral economy Somalia has clans. Mexico doesn't have clans since its economy is not based on pastoralism.

2. Having clans means having strong group feeling, like Hawiyenimo, Darodnimo, Isaaqnimo.

3. These groups have traditionally settled in known separate geographical area.

4. Unlike Kenya and Ethiopia where clans and tribes were allowed to develop local administrative regions, the first Somali state let all clans loose with an ill-advised and an over zealous centralization. As consequence the first Somali state was cannibalized by the clans

5. After the complete collapse of Somali state, in 1991 Somaliland starts a new model for the rest of Somali clans. Next, the clan state of Puntland emerges, followed by Galmudug in 2004. This becomes the basis of current Federal government

6. This is where two models for Somali political development emerges. One that naively advocates the same failed model of over centralization and the second model that advocates the supremacy of the states. The latter will allow each state to develop its institutions democratically, govern itself and be the boss of their own affairs. Similar to how the states like Wisconsin or Minnesota developed.

Given these basic facts of Somalia political history, every sane Somali would advocate giving a priority to the states and helping the rest of Somalia people to develop their local administrative regions. This is a modern Somalia. This is a civilized Somalia.

Therefore, it is natural for uneducated stateless power hungry dictator like Bare's nephew to hijack Somali federal mandate to serve his personal ambitions. This is where Somalia is tonight. Luckily for progressive Somalia, Mogadishu people will kick him to the dust of history.

Last word for you Gedo people: It is never too late to join new model Somali democracy.

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[kaliil]

[Gubbet]

I can't follow your writings

Yes, you can. Try again wallahi.

Your response was empty and meaningless, particularly in light of it being a response to what I wrote.

I am going to push you to try hard give me a relevant feed back.