"Camiraad" desperate attempt to SPIN as "Madobe win" the Garbo dist nom from Baidoa Agreement which was a Madobe FAILURE

[Gubbet]

I just want to document chronologically how desperate these people are.

[Gubbet]

March 24, 2021

I posted the results of the Baidoa Technical Points.

• Signing the Baidoa Technical Points was the "purpose" of the 1st Halane conference.
  
  
• Deni and Madoobe refused to even attend the Hall

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 9#p4995764

Remember what Baidoa Technical Points are.

Every single Federal State and the Fed Gov nominated a representative to hash out how to facilitate or carry out the September Agreement.

Every single representative had to agree to be submitted for signature by the Leaders.

It has just been submitted;



If you notice Gedo question is quite extensive and really doesn't reflect the extent of input particularly since Janan and militia gave themselves up.

The Gov and Federal States MINUS JUBBALAND will set up reconciliation team.

They will go there blah blah blah, Garbahaarey local maamul names will be given by the elders where Madoobe as Interim Jubbaland will just "nominate" like habarta Queen Elizabeth to the British PM, blah blah..


... It is overkill and disproportionate to what is going on until you realize Madoobe term ends in the Summer and there is a concensus ENTIRE "Jubbaland" as has existed as a KDF project is going to be torn out from whatever bare roots it is hanging on to.

This is very clearly what is going to be setting the foundation for that bigger process in the summer.

On March 24, 2021;

• Farmajo's offer that Deni and Madoobe refused to even consider
  
  • ---(not even entering the Hall)----
  
  
• They now sign with 0% (ZERO) change.
  
  • The Baidoa Technical Points details are digitally scanned in that Twitter source from March
  
  
• This is what desperation wants to spin as "Win"
  
  • Because they got NOTHING (0%).

What was offered by Farmaajo with the support of the Gedo Regional.Admin is exactly ----(as I posted on March 24, 2021) -what Deni and Madoobe have now sign with 0 (ZERO) change.

Next Post will explain in detail what was offered. There is the Agreement referenced in the twitter source from my post from March if you want to read it yourself.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gubbet,

Doing first world politics in a tribal society is gonna take a bit to set in. It’s just boring at this point

[Gubbet]

Deni and Madoobe had a million conditions, but since this is about Gedo; their conditions were;

1. Remove all Somali National Army from Gedo Region.
2. Disband Gedo Regional Forces as well and take their commanders to Capital
3. Disband the Gedo Regional Admin starting from Governor down where they will be replaced by Jubbaland administration picked from Kismaayo
4. Disband all Gedo District Councils where they will be replaced by Jubbaland administration picked from Kismaayo
5. The Elections in Garbahaarey will be completely administered by Jubbaland administration including venue and security and management
6. Extend unconditional Amnesty to Abdirashiid Janan and the Jubbaland Forces on the Border
7. Blah blah, I mean it is too long to list and really you get a sense of how delusional they were. They just did not want have an election where Farmaajo was competing

And what did we respond as documented in the Baidoa Technical Points?

• The Jubba Interim Admin will "announce" the district administration of "1" (ONE) district in Gedo
  
  • Namely the district in question of Garbahaarey.
• And what you will "announce" is "only" what is handed to you from the Elders of Garbahaarey who will select the District Administration of Garbahaarey in
  
  • You have 0 recourse to inform or contribute or affect who is selected by the elders of Garbahaarey.
    
    
    • And you have 0 recourse to say or do or change anything after handed the selection; you simply "announce" as it
  This is all documented in the Baidoa Technical Agreement.
  
  None of that is up for discussion or relitigation.

The entire thing is a "stand down" by Madoobe. It is an abysmal "failure " for Madoobe who not only wanted to have free reign to nominate not only Garbo or any district, but the Gedo REGIONAL administration, the Governor included, as well as demanded the REMOVAL of SNA forces from the region, etc etc etc.


You really cannot get more desperate than trying to spin this----any way, I mean it just can't even spin.

Reference: Baidoa Technical Points Digital Copy sourced from my March 24, 2021 post.

[Khalid Ali]

Why is deni so obsessed with gedo. Waxani wax ka badan.

[Gubbet]

Why is deni so obsessed with gedo. Waxani wax ka badan.

Khalid, is the sky blue?

They ALL know "when" Jubbaland comes into the hands of Marehan; it is a game changer.

There will be the Federal Government collectively Representing Somali stateure.

There will be Marehan below that represented by the title of Jubbaland and the VP of Galmudug

Then it is Puntland/MJ, Southwest/Rahanweyn, and Hiraab the central coast.

Madoobe as Jubbaland title informs NOTHING beyond his individual person.

Marehan had obe little outlaw---Janan---backed by his Samatar section of reer Axmed.

And he had more battlewagona than half the Madasha combined and in a 1990's free for all civil war Somalia, could chase Ahmed Madoobe out of Kismaayo by himself.

Now I don't expect you to cosign and nor am I asking you to agree, but answer your question as a matter of fact.

And it is only a matter of "how soon" because it is a Natural Law that the overwhelming social institution capable of exerting control singularly over the territory of the Jubva Valley is the social institution with the name Marehan.

10 years they used foreign nations and helicopter gunships never mind the amount of political capital they wasted against and we are today talking cookie crumbs out of us just to keep away your nuisance while preparing our event.

[Khalid Ali]

Well I do agree there is clearly a fear from denis part for almost 2 years he is been obsessing about gedo. Is gedo larger then the 2 jubbas combined ina size. Or are they about the same size. What about madoobe clan don't they represent the name jubba land some how to. Or is it only Marehan in your opinion.

[Gubbet]

Khalid,

Gedo region has a population 60% bigger than both Middle and Lower Jubba. Marehan settles in every single district district of Jubbaland as a whole and is a majority forming the administration or part of it in 75% of the districts.

Gedo Region has livestock population 140% more than both L and M Jubba.

Except for Kismaayo the port which Marehan forms a strong component,every other single urban and major town is in Gedo. Baardheere the 2nd biggest and capable of being higger than Kismaayo. Beled-Xaawo, Luuq etc.

Gedo region has the single biggest market right now in Jubbaland (Beled-Xaawo) and directly controls te trade of the Jubba Valley through Beled-Xaawo, Ceel waaq, and Dollow trade outlet to Ethiopia and Luuq controlling the land trade from Mog to Baidoa to Southern Ethiopia.

Marehan has the diaspora, hunan resource, and dare I even say the guns.

History will look back at this recent years and will laugh at the folly.

It is natural for the Sun to rise from the east and set towards the west.

Jubba Valley will only be a single, contiguous functioning existing entity when the man-made foolishness is contextualized by the the awesome power of Nature.

Nature always reasserts itself if you look at the vines capable of growing between human chiseled rock and brick.

[grandpakhalif]

Madoobe will only be given a "nominal role" in naming the Garboharray DC admin just like as you put it the "Queen" signing off law presented to her by the British parliament as as a figurehead in order to administer elections. This is a "tanasuul" for Madoobe to save face in the eyes of IC. Farmaajo even refused this until the Baidoa Technkcal agreements proposed this fair method. I personally support this initiative temporarily so the nation can move forward towards elections. We as Marehan cannot afford to be so selfish and become an obstacle for elections and its pretty reasonable deal imo

Anything else is fake news.

[nine]

Madoobe will only be given a "nominal role" in naming the Garboharray DC admin just like as you put it the "Queen" signing off law presented to her by the British parliament as as a figurehead in order to administer elections. This is a "tanasuul" for Madoobe to save face in the eyes of IC. Farmaajo even refused this until the Baidoa Technkcal agreements proposed this fair method. I personally support this initiative temporarily so the nation can move forward towards elections. We as Marehan cannot afford to be so selfish and become an obstacle for elections and its pretty reasonable deal imo

Anything else is fake news.

War fock the nation we left warlordism and got next to nothing. Qaran dumis hala noqdo. It gets results.

[Caytame]

Voltage is pulling stats out of his ass now like that helps.

Gedo isn’t even half the size of lower juba alone.

Agreement will be signed tomorrow. Thank god, we no longer have to deal with all the spin merchants chatting absolute shit, led by you with your gazzilion accounts of course.

[Gubbet]

Voltage is pulling stats out of his ass now like that helps.

Gedo isn’t even half the size of lower juba alone.

Agreement will be signed tomorrow. Thank god, we no longer have to deal with all the spin merchants chatting absolute shit, led by you with your gazzilion accounts of course.

You can say this, aftet February 8th, because you have no pride or shame, Sir.


A jezebel, in an Irish alehouse, surrounded by inebriated sailors, can even call herself a Catholic Nun and no one would raise even so much as half of an eyebrow.

You are no reflection of dignity, Sir, otherwise, after February 8th, you would not be here or you would be reflecting more humility.

[MrSinister]

Why is deni so obsessed with gedo. Waxani wax ka badan.

The bigger question is why does a so called president care about one particular region. Gedo is part of Jubbaland and has its own state president. Jubbaland is the second most stable state in Somalia. Under Madoobe, jubbaland has been peaceful. What failmaajo is doing in Gedo is like Joe Biden getting involved in state politics simply because a republican is the state leader. A real president who doesn’t have a clan agenda would respect the authority of the state president and work with him to remove shabab.

[Gubbet]

Why is deni so obsessed with gedo. Waxani wax ka badan.

The bigger question is why does a so called president care about one particular region. Gedo is part of Jubbaland and has its own state president. Jubbaland is the second most stable state in Somalia. Under Madoobe, jubbaland has been peaceful. What failmaajo is doing in Gedo is like Joe Biden getting involved in state politics simply because a republican is the state leader. A real president who doesn’t have a clan agenda would respect the authority of the state president and work with him to remove shabab.

Excuse me; the point of "federalism" is GROUND UP meaning the LOCAL PEOPLE are manifesting expression of self-rule.

Jubbaland doesn't focking exist.

It is officially the "Jubba Interim Administration" for a reason. Madoobe has NEVER been able to visit Garbahaarey, the capital of Gedo even ONCE ("1") in 10 years.

The Vichy cabal in Kismaayo is a FOREIGN IMPOSITION from Kenya Defense Forces---originally instituted as part of the strategy designed to prevent the maritime limitation issue from getting to ICJ docket---which failed.

The Government of Somalia, in line with the mandate of the Provisional Constitution---is 1.) defending Somalia from foreign AND domestic enemies and 2.) protecting the free expression of the majority of Jubbaland population from compulsion and duress.

This is why I say IF federalism ultimately FAILS in Somalia, it would have fallen because it couldn't be protected from Garowe's abuse of its intent.

The legitimacy of Jubbaland as a federal entity is entirely made possible by the recognition of the boy in Garbahaarey not Deni in "Garowe."

With manipulative friends like you, federalism has never needed any enrmies.

[MrSinister]

You and the failed dictator failmaajo’s views of local government is one that is hand picked by you and opposition candidates arrested, killed or threatened.

Fortunately most Somali’s people have seen failmaajo and his troll farm for what they are: clan obsessed munaafiqs. You are bitter your disgraced uncles power grab failed as Somali’s from all regions resisted the dictator and ultimately won. Federalism is the future of Somalia and if anything, more Somali’s have embraced federalism because of the actions of the failed dictator.