As long as Mogadishu is capital, HAG will blackmail non-HAG president

[MrSinister]

Do you agree with this lawyers take?While I believe farmajo caused most of the problems due to his weak leadership and his disregard for federalism and the constitution. The issue of Mogadishu being used by HAG to blackmail and threaten non-HAG president is very serious.

Even if Deni were to win, he may face the same problems in the future.

[BigBreak]

Somalia Hawiye baa leh and Mogadishu will forever be the eternal Somalian capital city

[original dervish]

The answer is simple........there must be a prolonged period of hagite occupancy in Villa Somalia.

The quality of political leaders is such that Somalia will be stuck in a cycle of war, famine, insurgency, instability for the foreseeable future.

Unfortunately , as far as Somalia is concerned this is as good as it gets.

[Xaraash]

If Hawiye are the problem how come farmaajo is in Villa Somalia 8 months after his term expired?, I don't think Hawiye are the evil some people believe they are.

[Jimbie]

why would they do such stupid thing? Hawiye will lose the presidency forever if the capital is changed

[sahal80]

True but if the capital was in Garowe, you would have turned it into a Kingdom. look how do you treated the warsangali speaker in Garowe who is himself harti. atleast Abgaals and hawiye are accepting a Peaceful transfer of power wich Daarood will never do it in their lands they even are refusing in hawiye lands!

Hawiye are too stupid in believing Democracy. how come only hawiye presidents handed over power peacefully to other presidents lika Adan Cade, Sh sharif and Hassan sheekh? Xataa Cabdi Qasim markii laga laga dareeray waa tanaasulay waxay aheed inuu la sugo inta doorasho ka dhaceyson asaga oo ahaa dawladii ugu horeysay ee nidamaka maanta udubada u dhigtey sida 4.5 iyo xildhibaanada beelaha loo qoondeeyay iyo qoondada 30% haweenka xataa airspaceka ay soo celisay
"in 2002, the newly formed Transitional National Government (TNG) briefly re-assumed control of Somalia's airspace with the re-establishment of the Somali Civil Aviation Authority (SOMCAA) by the Ministry of Air and Land Transport.[4]"


Farmaajo waa ogeed sideey u soo dhaweeyeen laakin wuxuu la yimid dhaqankii afweyne waxayna aheed qalad in loo dhiibo qof uu afweyne soo abaabiyay.

[Rebelxx22]

Boon Ilkayar loves power and Hutus love influence. Hawiye will need to adopt a confederation style of power sharing. Why the center of power be placed in Mogadishu when it can be shared amongst 5 regional states. Hawiyes could have used the wealth they generate in Mogadishu to build up Hirshabelle or Galmudug. At sum point Mogadishu is going to grow maybe new clans like Gaaljecl or Ujeejeen might receive a district. Look how Hg went from nothing in xamar to now 40% in Over 30 years.

[Seedyare]

Farmaajo waa ogeed sideey u soo dhaweeyeen laakin wuxuu la yimid dhaqankii afweyne waxayna aheed qalad in loo dhiibo qof uu afweyne soo abaabiyay.

Dhaqankii Siyaad Barre waadigan ku eedaynayo Farmaajo e miyaadan arag Roobalaha lasoo baxay dhaqankii MOORYAANTA HAWIYE ku qarbudeen Somalia !

Mise Sahaloow waxaad raali ku tahay fawdo iyo nidaam la’aan .Jawiga tuugaysiga iyo qabyaalada ku qotama (poltical anarchy and lawlessness) .


Xawaadle iyo Dir baa is cunaya oo waliba xawaadluhu duullan cad bay wadaan.Abgaal waad ku dhagantihiin oo waxaad leedihiin Hirshabeele ha dunto ama Xawaadle uun haka noqdo madaxwayne .Cayr iyo idinka dil iyo afduubasho iyo kala irdhaysnaan baad deris ku tihiin .

Soow la is ma odhan karo Sahal waa mooryaan qurbaawi ah oo aamisan Hawiye inay maslaxo ugu jirto fawdo iyo is garab yaac? Hade la soco oo adigoo Xawaadle ah ayaad rabtaa inaad magac Hawiye ku qabyaaladayso ! Cajiib

[sahal80]

Farmaajo waa ogeed sideey u soo dhaweeyeen laakin wuxuu la yimid dhaqankii afweyne waxayna aheed qalad in loo dhiibo qof uu afweyne soo abaabiyay.

Dhaqankii Siyaad Barre waadigan ku eedaynayo Farmaajo e miyaadan arag Roobalaha lasoo baxay dhaqankii MOORYAANTA HAWIYE ku qarbudeen Somalia !

Mise Sahaloow waxaad raali ku tahay fawdo iyo nidaam la’aan .Jawiga tuugaysiga iyo qabyaalada ku qotama (poltical anarchy and lawlessness) .


Xawaadle iyo Dir baa is cunaya oo waliba xawaadluhu duullan cad bay wadaan.Abgaal waad ku dhagantihiin oo waxaad leedihiin Hirshabeele ha dunto ama Xawaadle uun haka noqdo madaxwayne .Cayr iyo idinka dil iyo afduubasho iyo kala irdhaysnaan baad deris ku tihiin .

Soow la is ma odhan karo Sahal waa mooryaan qurbaawi ah oo aamisan Hawiye inay maslaxo ugu jirto fawdo iyo is garab yaac? Hade la soco oo adigoo Xawaadle ah ayaad rabtaa inaad magac Hawiye ku qabyaaladayso ! Cajiib

Your post is irrelevant. i talked about THE FACTS. ilaa
hada maheyno Madaxweyne Daarooda oo xukuna wareejiyay ayadoon la qasbin. MJka ayaa ugu roon ayagana Cabdi Sharamarke markii la dilay, Muuse boqor oo sabab u ahaa Geeridiisa maadama uu doorashii uu ku soo baxay u abaabulay oo kursigii Cali saleebaan siiyay cisman maxamuud "si ay ugu codeyaan sharmarke" taas oo keentay in askari Cali saleebaan ah dilo sharmarke arintiina ilaa hada la qariyo oo shisheeye iyo afweyne dusha loo saaro. muuse boqor ayaa diyaarinayay inuu dhaxlo sharmarke oo kaligiis baarlamanka u codeeyo asagoo cigaal kula heshiiyay inuu sii jiri doono oo baarlamaanka u iibiyo sidaas ayaa afgambiskii siyaad barre loo soo dhaweeyay maadama boqortooyo isku badali rabtey. waxaan saaxiibo la ahay ciyaal qurbo joog badan oo daarood ah oo Garowe xarumo ka furtey waa u socon weysay ilaa mid walbe uu canug maxamuud saleebaan ah hoos fariisto oo asaga ka aqoon hooseeya waxaan ku xigeeno aheen waa waayeen

war aniga Xamar iyo Jowhar Abgaal waa idaba fariistaan xataa under guudlaawe, HG dadka la shaqeeya dhan waa qabiilo kale aqri listga inta radio shabeele maamushey iyo goobjoog, iyo salama bank xataa shirkada al buruuj nin igu cid ah ayaa madax ka ah. uk xaafadaha isaaqa koonsilka ama dawlada ama masaajida maba ka shaqeyn kartid hadaadan ayaga aheen dadkaan aaba aniga ibaray inaan wax ku darsan

mida kale im not saying this as hawiye wich i call them stupid bc im not stupid mana aaminsani somaliweyn

Jawaabteyda waxay tahay meel ka open san hawiye maba jirtaba. aniga wax ma ceynayo mj ma ceynayo daarood ma ceynayo waxaa kaloo xaqiiqo ah In qalbidhagax exposed by PL asagoo koonfurta GLK u gudbaya. Dad airportka Cabdullahu Yuusuf ku salaamey markuu soo dagayay ayaa niman kale dhaheen yuu yahay sidaas ayay itoobiya ku gaartey. Meel saas ah ay Xamar la simayaan. hawiye iskadaa Farmaajo oo Daarood ah aa PL laga diiday oo Xamar jooga ka waran hadii garoowe ahaan laheed Caasimada Somalia marhore ay liqi lahaayeen.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Power and influence is cool. But pragmatism trumps them both.

[TarTar]

Mr sinister u ain't got nuthin to worry about. Gov. Deni gonna stay where he is n gonna be all powerful in ur there. tha big bad hutu aiin't finna cum to Garowe village

u just need to stay out of big boy politics of Hamar. ur gonna be all right

[MrSinister]

True but if the capital was in Garowe, you would have turned it into a Kingdom. look how do you treated the warsangali speaker in Garowe who is himself harti. atleast Abgaals and hawiye are accepting a Peaceful transfer of power wich Daarood will never do it in their lands they even are refusing in hawiye lands!

Hawiye are too stupid in believing Democracy. how come only hawiye presidents handed over power peacefully to other presidents lika Adan Cade, Sh sharif and Hassan sheekh? Xataa Cabdi Qasim markii laga laga dareeray waa tanaasulay waxay aheed inuu la sugo inta doorasho ka dhaceyson asaga oo ahaa dawladii ugu horeysay ee nidamaka maanta udubada u dhigtey sida 4.5 iyo xildhibaanada beelaha loo qoondeeyay iyo qoondada 30% haweenka xataa airspaceka ay soo celisay
"in 2002, the newly formed Transitional National Government (TNG) briefly re-assumed control of Somalia's airspace with the re-establishment of the Somali Civil Aviation Authority (SOMCAA) by the Ministry of Air and Land Transport.[4]"


Farmaajo waa ogeed sideey u soo dhaweeyeen laakin wuxuu la yimid dhaqankii afweyne waxayna aheed qalad in loo dhiibo qof uu afweyne soo abaabiyay.

Fair enough.I agree with you that Hawiye have transferred power peacefully. Right now we have a bigger common problem in farmajo than anything else. But, Mogadishu is not Garowe. Garowe is a city that built by its people after the civil war, while Mogadishu was built by all Somalis and Hawiye became majority after the civil war.

I don’t know what the long term solution is, perhaps further decentralization and less power for the central government.

[MrSinister]

Mr sinister u ain't got nuthin to worry about. Gov. Deni gonna stay where he is n gonna be all powerful in ur there. tha big bad hutu aiin't finna cum to Garowe village

u just need to stay out of big boy politics of Hamar. ur gonna be all right

Did someone from PL ku fara xumeeyay abaayo? Why are you obsessed with PL?

[MrSinister]

If Hawiye are the problem how come farmaajo is in Villa Somalia 8 months after his term expired?, I don't think Hawiye are the evil some people believe they are.

No Hawiye are not the problem. But a city can’t have the privilege of being the capital of the nation and be considered a clan city.

[NGM]

As long as Darood do not have a solution for Benadir we will have the Hutu question on our neck. Deni cannot answer this question, because he has accepted to kneel before hutus, He is afterall a Zanzibari and not a true muslim Jabarti like the rest of us.