Governor Deni to declare candidacy for national presidency?

[BigBreak]

https://www.bbc.com/somali/war-59349055?

He'll just be like Mooge a powerless figurehead in Mogadishu

[paperino]

https://www.bbc.com/somali/war-59349055?

He'll just be like Mooge a powerless figurehead in Mogadishu

Wrong! He's a member of madasha badbaado qaran, mucaaradka would cooperate with and not give him a hard time. He's popular in Mogadishu (he also was born there, therefore a native).

[BigBreak]

Hawiye will always be top dogs in federal politics in your country Somalia as long as HAG town Mogadishu is capital city of Somalia

[TarTar]

https://www.bbc.com/somali/war-59349055?

He'll just be like Mooge a powerless figurehead in Mogadishu

whether Farmajo gets re elected. whether Roble becomes a candidate. whether another habargidir candiate wins. every future president of the ex italian colony has to remember that the real stake holders of Somalia federal government are 4 out of the 5 federal member states. ur federal government n the SNA only operate in 4 out of 5 federal member states. ignore tha stealth secessionist state. Puntland threateded 2 arrest a Somalia federal minister for making an official federal stop in Garowe.they even ban the SNA from conducting training ops in Garowe

tha worst they can do is "cut off ties with federal government" so they might almost threaten to almost publicly announce that they r secessionist

[BigBreak]

TT

If Puntland becomes less autonomous and is no different to the other federal states in Somalia because Deni becomes the leader of the whole of Somalia wouldn't that be a good thing or not?

[TarTar]

TT

If Puntland becomes less autonomous and is no different to the other federal states in Somalia because Deni becomes the leader of the whole of Somalia wouldn't that be a good thing or not?

wut ur saying is govenor Deni will keep his dictatorial powers over Puntland federal province. while also ruling the 4 unionist federal member states out of the 5 member states in the ex italian colony





thats how Puntland approaches every negotiation about the federal government of the ex italian colony. the federal government will only control, some or all of, Jubaland, Hamar, Southwest state, Galmudug, n Hirshabele. through Puntland's share of federal power, puntland gets it's share of control over the other 4 federal member states. the federal government controls nothing in Puntland


in ur scenario, Somalia gets cursed a mini TPLF in Ethiopia situation. Aran Jan or Kaah as they renamed themselves. TPLF of the ex italian colony. tha moment governor Deni is out of office, Puntland goes back to it's stealth secessionist ways. just as Tigray was an unofficial secessionist kilil until Abiy started the 2020 law enforcement war

[BigBreak]

You're right TarTar but what we have to understand is MJ unlike Tigrayans would allow an outsider (even a non Darod) rule them if a city in Puntland eg Bosaso replaces Mogadishu to become the new capital city of Somalia. Having your clan district as capital city is more important for any clan than having one individual from such clan be given a top political position

[TarTar]

You're right TarTar but what we have to understand is MJ unlike Tigrayans would allow an outsider (even a non Darod) rule them if a city in Puntland eg Bosaso replaces Mogadishu to become the new capital city of Somalia. Having your clan district as capital city is more important for any clan than having one individual from such clan be given a top political position

u misunderstood me. i neva said magerten r tha problem. no doubt majority of magerten r against tha stealth secessionist project.

many magerteen r so desperately opposed to tha stealth secessionist retime, they join ISIS n al shabab terrorists


wut i'm saying is magerteenland is mostly controlled by tha stealth secessionist clique. n some under ISIS. some under al shabab. y would any1 give tha capital 2 stealth secessionists



moving tha capital as a concession 2 stealth secessionists would encourage the other federal member states 2 go rogue as well


only 1 realistic apporach. ignore ridiculous outbursts from the stealth secessionist. focus on the federal government assuming federal power in 4 federal member states that allow SNA to operate in their regions.


if u disagree. see wut happened 2 Farmajo. he tried 2 b patient with Puntland during eleciton talks last year. result was delay n boycott caused by Puntland. led 2 badbaado army mutiny. eventually fall out with prime minister. n now Puntland requesting UN to cripple the SNA with AMISOM extension n arms embargo renewal

[Jimbie]

I did predict Deni winning. We will wait and see

[sahal80]

I used to like Deni as PM but from his political behavior and his appointment of all the 11 members of the Senate from PL without people competing for one seat he assured me that he loves power and does not like democracy and free competition and therefore does not differ from Farmaajo anything. I heard that he presented a long list to Ahmed Madoobe without taking into account the situation there as many of Madoobe's allies from other tribes and even his subclan are politically connected with
different presidential candidates. Deni delays the elections until next year why? In order to get all the JL and PL votes and his CBB are bragging about picking them not odayaasha so i don't like him even to be Prime Minister because he lacks the spirit of compromise.

Adeeroow nin walbe deegaankiisuu ka talin.

"dawlada" means here Deni

[Rebelxx222]

Madoobe supporting Deni would be the end of him as His own tribe Ogaden does not want to see a Darood president for 2022

Let’s see where this nonsense leads to

[Sbashi]

Sahal i have no idea how you might have thought Deni remotely likes democracy or loves free competition. Maybe because you thoughts he was opposing farmaajo and since you consider farmaajo a dictator so that means Deni is a champion of democracy?

[Sbashi]

Madoobe supporting Deni would be the end of him as His own tribe Ogaden does not want to see a Darood president for 2022

Let’s see where this nonsense leads to

Madoobe has always the support of his reer abdillah jiffo who will be his personal bodyguards, nothing else matter. Other ogaden can't do anything. Remember xidig and seeraar? They couldn't last for one second against kenya's wishes. Lower Jubba is ruled by Uhuru whether ogaden support, does not support is neutral does not matter. If today Ogaden decide to kick Madoobe, it won't move madoobe from his kursi an inch.

[Murax]

I used to like Deni as PM but from his political behavior and his appointment of all the 11 members of the Senate from PL without people competing for one seat he assured me that he loves power and does not like democracy and free competition and therefore does not differ from Farmaajo anything. I heard that he presented a long list to Ahmed Madoobe without taking into account the situation there as many of Madoobe's allies from other tribes and even his subclan are politically connected with
different presidential candidates. Deni delays the elections until next year why? In order to get all the JL and PL votes and his CBB are bragging about picking them not odayaasha so i don't like him even to be Prime Minister because he lacks the spirit of compromise.

Adeeroow nin walbe deegaankiisuu ka talin.

"dawlada" means here Deni

Sahal you shocked me. Even fellow Hutu extremists like Kees70 felt you were acting naag for Dhabayaco. I guess you chanfed.

[sahal80]

Sahal i have no idea how you might have thought Deni remotely likes democracy or loves free competition. Maybe because you thoughts he was opposing farmaajo and since you consider farmaajo a dictator so that means Deni is a champion of democracy?

It's some thing in Jeberti blood.