They laughed when Voltage said Gorgor will take Garowe. PSF Qardho joins PSF Bosaso to take road, PSF = covert Gorgor

[SultanOrder]

He predicted all of this last spring. That Gorgor was there, that there were "Somalia Federal Troop loyalists" and that Farmaajo would take the fight to Deny to his own turf which has never happened in Puntland's history. V was seeing the next universe while the people arguing here were limited to see just the next[ block.

Farmaajo compromised X100 to make Ahlu Sunnah see reason. In 1 morning, he ended10 yr headache. Deni & Madobe = Sh S
PostWed Apr 07, 2021 10:38 am

I am telling you Farmaajo is prepared to give the order.

And it is not just Kismaayo.

Do not be surprised if Garowe sees Deni under house arrest with Somali Federal Troop loyalists in conjunction with Gorgor and Haramcad seize Garowe security quietly and bloodlessly (0 blood).

These men are exactly what Ahlu Sunnah assumed about itself in negotiations.

Until, Sh Shakir was under arrest in his one morning, his entire paramilitary disarmed, and quickly whisked out to free the city of Dhusamareb from his political control

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=402671

Farmaajo and Fahad have signalled the start of the next move which I said ends in Garowe.

PostMon Apr 12, 2021 4:21 am

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8#p4997135

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

P.O bro there was a meeting last night. Where PSF are officially part of Gorgor led by Biixi. It's not a conspiracy even Gen Koronto who are back in Xamar talked about PSF joining gorgor.

[SultanOrder]

P.O bro there was a meeting last night. Where PSF are officially part of Gorgor led by Biixi. It's not a conspiracy even Gen Koronto who are back in Xamar talked about PSF joining gorgor.

The point of the topic is Voltage wrote his analysis 9 months ago in APRIL.

[Sbashi]

Cayar culus baa socota. Farmaajo changed the whole game.

[TarTar]

anotha prescient call from voltage. but 1st give a shoutout to Farmajo for ending stealth secessionism if this successful i'ma also recognize myself for saying magertenland is full of people who don't like stealth secessionism

[TarTar]

unbelievable. it wouldn't post anything then it posts twice

[TarTar]

damn site

[OwQariib]

Deni or Diyaano one must go, most likely Diyaano may accept an offer to go into self exile if the PL elders pressure him, he can take down Deni but he can't take down a 22 year old state

[BigBreak]

MashaAllah Farmajo it seems is ending de facto confederalism and bringing about de facto centralism (with a federalist facade). It's one thing Farmajo controlling all of Somalia's five FMS including Majertenia but it's quite another thing to reunify Somalia with Somaliland which quite frankly will never happen.

A centralised Somalia (with the same borders as the ex Italian Somalia colony) is one of the things that needs to happen for Somaliland to become a de jure officially recognised independent country

[SultanOrder]

Bigreak, your problem like most Somalis is you are about extremes. There isn't only centralism or confederalism. There is something called "federalism, which is the officially agreed upon political system. This government is called the Federal Republic of Somalia. The transition government before it after TNG has been TFG or Transitional Federal Government.

This issue did not arose from or concern the Puntland State Military or " Puntland Dariish. It arose from Deni, a federal governer being the first Puntland President to interfere with the PSF forces of Puntland. Omar Abdirashiid Ali Sharmaarke himself said last week PSF were designed to be FEDERAL forces under the control of the Federal Government. That's why they were not into integrated to or were separate to the Puntland state military.

What ia happening is implemention of federalism and not just lipsync to it as has been Puntland's history.This is real federalism being implemented. PSF officially coming under the now ready Federal security system is a maturing of the system. Puntland's confederationalists have had the chicken come home to roost as was going to be the eventuality. We are a Federal system alright and you are going to adhere to proper checks and balances in federalism.

[TarTar]

⌃ nomenclature problem. tha steath secessionists succeeded in portraying that federalism is tha same as stealth secessionism, or confederalism as bigbreak call it. real federalism is seen as centralism. wut ever it's called, tha stealth secessionism project must be terminated

[SultanOrder]

Real federalism is called "decolved powers" with the center holding disproportionate amount of power from the "center" or top.

[Kees70]

Bigreak, your problem like most Somalis is you are about extremes. There isn't only centralism or confederalism. There is something called "federalism, which is the officially agreed upon political system. This government is called the Federal Republic of Somalia. The transition government before it after TNG has been TFG or Transitional Federal Government.

This issue did not arose from or concern the Puntland State Military or " Puntland Dariish. It arose from Deni, a federal governer being the first Puntland President to interfere with the PSF forces of Puntland. Omar Abdirashiid Ali Sharmaarke himself said last week PSF were designed to be FEDERAL forces under the control of the Federal Government. That's why they were not into integrated to or were separate to the Puntland state military.

What ia happening is implemention of federalism and not just lipsync to it as has been Puntland's history.This is real federalism being implemented. PSF officially coming under the now ready Federal security system is a maturing of the system. Puntland's confederationalists have had the chicken come home to roost as was going to be the eventuality. We are a Federal system alright and you are going to adhere to proper checks and balances in federalism.

The real ''chickens coming home to roost'' for puntland will be when all of Mudug comes under Galmudug.

puntlan wished evils on others, only for the evil to befall on them.

[STARKAST]

Too many opinions on this chat no substance.
Any single gun or soldier let alone a force will always answer to PL. Full stop.

What is happening in PL is 1 person/family being disgruntled at being fired from his post hes had for over 10 years.

Mark my words all will be calm by the end of the week.

[STARKAST]

Real federalism is called "decolved powers" with the center holding disproportionate amount of power from the "center" or top.

MX are IDP in kismayo.

Priorities .