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Diplomatic reset needed in PL. The current stand off not good for Somali Federalism

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:06 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
Deni clearly failed in his democratic mandate by dividing the state in two. And Diyaano overstep his military mandate. Where are the elders?

Re: Diplomatic reset needed in PL. The current stand off not good for Somali Federalism

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:13 pm
by mahoka
Deni clearly failed in his democratic mandate by dividing the state in two. And Diyaano overstep his military mandate. Where are the elders?
Elders are not the solution, the problem for Somalia in general is there is no clear winner in these conflicts so the wound is always infected and never settles. We are at the stage we’re most other human groups were 1000 years ago when tribes/clans were all doing their own thing with no powerful master to forge them into his will.


Take a look at the Japanese clans- literally it took an all conquering Edo clan to takeover the whole nation and impose its will.


We need clear cut winners in the Somali peninsula

Re: Diplomatic reset needed in PL. The current stand off not good for Somali Federalism

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:36 am
by TarTar
Deni clearly failed in his democratic mandate by dividing the state in two. And Diyaano overstep his military mandate. Where are the elders?
governor Deni neva had a democratic mandate. he launched a premature attack while overestimating tha strenghth of his tribe, tha Bah Dolbahanta, overestimated how much support he had from Omar Mahamud or Isse Mahamud to overturn tha overwhelming majority of Bari region tribes

wut Diyanao did was give Deni a local magertenaland version of badbado qaran mutiny. since governor Deni supported badbado qaran he got no credibility against Diyana family. n besides, tribal provinces like Puntland shouldn't even be allowed to have armies. SNA need to security Bosaso. to prevent anotha Bosaso War.

the ex italian colony's federal government needs to step in to prevent stealth secessionists like Deni fromdestabilizing magertenland

Re: Diplomatic reset needed in PL. The current stand off not good for Somali Federalism

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:49 am
by paperino
Elders are not the solution, the problem for Somalia in general is there is no clear winner in these conflicts so the wound is always infected and never settles. We are at the stage we’re most other human groups were 1000 years ago when tribes/clans were all doing their own thing with no powerful master to forge them into his will.


Take a look at the Japanese clans- literally it took an all conquering Edo clan to takeover the whole nation and impose its will.


We need clear cut winners in the Somali peninsula
Indeed, a 'powerful master' who takes over the 6 maamul goboleeds plus Banaadir is needed.

Re: Diplomatic reset needed in PL. The current stand off not good for Somali Federalism

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:22 pm
by mahoka
Elders are not the solution, the problem for Somalia in general is there is no clear winner in these conflicts so the wound is always infected and never settles. We are at the stage we’re most other human groups were 1000 years ago when tribes/clans were all doing their own thing with no powerful master to forge them into his will.


Take a look at the Japanese clans- literally it took an all conquering Edo clan to takeover the whole nation and impose its will.


We need clear cut winners in the Somali peninsula
Indeed, a 'powerful master' who takes over the 6 maamul goboleeds plus Banaadir is needed.
I thought you were avoiding my comments sister, what changed today?

Farmaajo isn’t that guy it seems, he controls some parts of banaadir state but not the other 5 states of Somalia.

Don’t worry, if Somalia doesn’t get its act together this next decade then it will be going back to Italian administration under the UN.