Hirshabelle proves that all FMS need Gentleman's Agreement for clans and provinces!

[Amin5457]

Wcs brother trapmacalin and welcome, walaal there is no cuqdad or any hatred here, it's just political competition between us Hiraabs and Xawadle, Aniga to be honest would have loved if Abgaal had annexed Lower Shabelle and made their states even bigger, therefore making isqabqabsi between Abgaal and Xawadle practically ZERO.

Ofc ahki. HAG United no somali can defeat us. This was evident early 1991. And we are also the most dangerous and armed mashallah. Regardless GM/HS/banadir is hawiye states so it’s internal affairs ahki

Again brother I meant no ill intention here, I just stated all that is wrong in Somalia's states and even included Galmudugs isqabqabsi with their Shia's aswj, so you see it's a State wife problems I mentioned, so I hope you understand now.

P,s I never mentioned Mogadishu demographics here.

No problem. I just see you attack abgaal here and there a few times. Saaxib I see hg as brothers. You have to realise lineage wise, ilmo hiraab are like Mohamed salabeen of MJ. That’s how landheere we are. I am genuinely happy for galmudug state as my reer abti waceysle are there. But it’s in the best interest for hg that abgaal lead hirshabelle. As you guys can pave your way even further into lower shabelle if that’s what you wish. Standing up for langaab XL serves no purpose

I understand brother, and also to be fair I never attacked Abgaals alone, I attacked any clan who attacked mine, you see it's just empty FKD, just weeks ago we had HG vs Ogaden with our brother Rebelx above, all this is just a pastime empty entertainment called FKD, and it's as they say no clan (except langaabs) are safe under the FKD game, it's a free for all Battle-royal

P,s Beesha Xawadle they are gob and one of the top 3 HAGs in terms of the power structure in our hierarchy, this is why they deserve our utmost respect and also this fiasco in Hirshabelle created by Farmaajo will also be fixed soon inshAllahi, so let's wait patiently, you even saw how our gob Xawadle brothers welcomed Cali Guudlawe, marka sxb Abgaal and Xawadle are brothers and allies.

And also our Ustaad Sahal you mistakenly attacked here, is one of our distinguished HAGists here on this site Somnet, marka sxb show him some huge love and respect.

[Amin5457]

No problem. I just see you attack abgaal here and there a few times. Saaxib I see hg as brothers. You have to realise lineage wise, ilmo hiraab are like Mohamed salabeen of MJ. That’s how landheere we are. I am genuinely happy for galmudug state as my reer abti waceysle are there. But it’s in the best interest for hg that abgaal lead hirshabelle. As you guys can pave your way even further into lower shabelle if that’s what you wish. Standing up for langaab XL serves no purpose

I understand brother, and also to be fair I never attacked Abgaals alone, I attacked any clan who attacked mine, you see it's just empty FKD, just weeks ago we had HG vs Ogaden with our brother Rebelx above, all this is just a pastime empty entertainment called FKD, and it's as they say no clan (except langaabs) are safe under the FKD game, it's a free for all Battle-royal

P,s Beesha Xawadle they are gob and one of the top 3 HAGs in terms of the power structure in our hierarchy, this is why they deserve our utmost respect and also this fiasco in Hirshabelle created by Farmaajo will also be fixed soon inshAllahi, so let's wait patiently, you even saw how our gob Xawadle brothers welcomed Cali Guudlawe, marka sxb Abgaal and Xawadle are brothers and allies.

And also our Ustaad Sahal you mistakenly attacked here, is one of our distinguished HAGists here on this site Somnet, marka sxb show him some huge love and respect.

Agreed ahki. Only way for hirshabelle/galmudug/banadir to guul is to be united

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

I think it's safe to say that Hirshabelle is the second Federal Member State of Somalia, after Somaliland where ONE tribe politically, militarily and economically defeated everyone else. Abgaal is the powerhouse of Hirshabelle, as Habar Awal are the powerhouse of Somaliland. Xawadle are no different than any other minority living within Hirshabelle.

Hirshabelle finally has a winner. Congratulations to AbkoowDhiblaawe and his kinsfolk in their lordship over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle.

[Amin5457]

I think it's safe to say that Hirshabelle is the second Federal Member State of Somalia, after Somaliland where ONE tribe politically, militarily and economically defeated everyone else. Abgaal is the powerhouse of Hirshabelle, as Habar Awal are the powerhouse of Somaliland. Xawadle are no different than any other minority living within Hirshabelle.

Hirshabelle finally has a winner. Congratulations to AbkoowDhiblaawe and his kinsfolk in their lordship over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle.

Anyone who believed XL would come to an agreement with Abgaal was daft .You have to remember XL weren't only going against Harti abgaal but also the landheere wacbuudhan as a whole whose represention in banadir got moved to HS even though they are the largest sub in xamar. XL never had a chance to be honest.

[Amin5457]

[sahal80]

The only thing wrong with this is "Farmaajo militarized Gedo." No he didn't, there is no state where more government soldiers were sent then Galmudug. 120 people died in Guriceel just recently to stop the Sufis from taking Dhusamareb. It is also the state where power is more concentrated because of Farmaajo's military support to Qoorqoor. There is really no " state apparatus". With Jubbaland, there is no such concentration of power. Middle Jubba is controlled by Shabab and Gedo is completely free of Madoobe's influence. Hirshabelle is as nonexistent as Jubbaland as well and Puntland's contract has been destroyed by Deni not to mention the way it existed until now was a temporary civil war solution and as the country moves forward with permanent system it no longer can function as the transitional system it was.

There is really no "federal state" that has true federal structure bthan Koonfur Galbeed.People who see each other as 1, have internal cohesion, want each other and see each other as sharing the same interests and destiny, and united as a group within the national state because of distinct dialect, culture, and way of life. Koonfur Galbeed is the only true Federal State. They may have political differences within about that seat and this leader but within their understanding and acceptance of each other as a single unitary group.

Everything else is a fake, surface system that on the ground does not exist.

Another conspiracy theory. in your logic villa wardhiigley also does not function atleast for Baladweyne there is no Amisom inside the adminstarion HQ when you have Amisom peace keeping between Rooble and Farmaajo let alone protecting it they r inside and outside. Your philosophy is to deny the FMS reality even if it is on paper because you don't own one.

when i said JL powersharing is concentrated in the hands of one subclan i mean Kismaayo where madoobe controls for whatever reasons im not talking about the security in JL like middle jubba. every thing is based in Kismaayo where no mx president that rules by the constitution just like waare did in Jowhar.

this is Hirshabelle dastuur that waare ruled by no such role for Guudlaawe and this hawadle site saying Dabageed has no role except being acting president when Guudlaawe is not there


having said that Guudlaawe had influence and power in Jowhar but you saw how Waare was free and was against Farmaajo in most cases and was with JL and PL without Galmudug and KG.


why bc this state is based on Gentleman's Agreement any clash with Waare he will move to Baladweyne and split the State.

Guudlaawe couldnt even attend his own Mudulood conference while waare attended it bc it was pro opposition. untill recently Guudlaawe was not that free and the reason is Farmaajo has no longer power specially after badbaado qaran and Rooble taking over then he started changing his xisaabaat thinking "what about if Farmaajo goes and im against my tol?

During waare era when he was against Farmaajo like shirkii golaha madasha in Kismaayo the latter was enjoying real presidential powers not fully served his first term yet

if you can't secure the president position for whatever reasons than you must have other options like Hiiraan hosting the capital wich is why Guudlaawe now in Baladweyne peacefully. there is no Amisom in the Adminstration area called lamagalaay they are about 7km outside of the town in the airport and behind it. the haramcad that was escorting him while themselves were escorted by the Ethiopians are stationed in an area closer to the Amisom and the airport bc themselves are fearing for their lives so they not in the maintown and r not allowed to come closer to the election venue wich is located in the same place. their plan is to be a back up for dabageed boob if he gets attacked. Dabageed has local security with some guudlaawe Abgaal bodyguard, officers and staff and mucaaradka have loyal forces part of SNA inside lamagalaay so he dictating Guudlaawe in there saying leave Hawadle for me just like you was managing Abgaal in Jowhar and he took money from the wife of speaker Mursal and other female mp so he does not want competition bc he wanna sell these kuraas. anyways im against dabageed and my point is not him its about being mukulaal minnankeeda joogta. imagin having educated vice president oo xishoonaya in Baladweyne instead of Dabageed? he would have worked with the local politicians without this corruption and relaying on Guudlaawe. mabdaiyan waa taageersanahay in qolo walbe looga danbeeyo kuraastooda but to protect our kuraas we offered protection for guudlaawe who is not free hadii uu furo kuraasta xaafadkalaa xataa loo diyaariyay.

adiga siyaasiyiintaadii Kismaayo iyo maxamuud sayid waxay taagan yihiin doorashada halaga wareejiyo garbahaarey waayo waa la heestayaal that is what im talking about kuleey waa iska indha tiree waaqaca hadaadan aqoon saneyn kuwa kismaayo beesha caalamka aa aqoosan more than ay farmaajo aqoonsanyihiin

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

I think it's safe to say that Hirshabelle is the second Federal Member State of Somalia, after Somaliland where ONE tribe politically, militarily and economically defeated everyone else. Abgaal is the powerhouse of Hirshabelle, as Habar Awal are the powerhouse of Somaliland. Xawadle are no different than any other minority living within Hirshabelle.

Hirshabelle finally has a winner. Congratulations to AbkoowDhiblaawe and his kinsfolk in their lordship over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle.

Anyone who believed XL would come to an agreement with Abgaal was daft .You have to remember XL weren't only going against Harti abgaal but also the landheere wacbuudhan as a whole whose represention in banadir got moved to HS even though they are the largest sub in xamar. XL never had a chance to be honest.

I think I know now why sahal80 is so obsessed with Marehan. He truly believes Farmaajo has empowered Abgaal to take full control over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle. He is focusing his anger and distrust he has towards Abgaal onto Marehan. Does he not know that Abgaal isn't in the palms of Marehan and that they are playing chess against all the inhabitants of Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle? Abgaal played their hands well. They are in full control of Hirshabelle for the foreseeable future. Xawadle has been placed in the back-burner and reduced to the likes of Xuud, someone who bend the knee after N&N called him out on his bluff. He had empty threats.

But, what I want to know is why is sahal80 afraid to target and address Abgaal's domination of Hirshabelle? Xawadle has been robbed of authority, security and ownership in broad daylight by Abgaal, but sahal80 is focused on Jubbaland.

[Amin5457]

I think it's safe to say that Hirshabelle is the second Federal Member State of Somalia, after Somaliland where ONE tribe politically, militarily and economically defeated everyone else. Abgaal is the powerhouse of Hirshabelle, as Habar Awal are the powerhouse of Somaliland. Xawadle are no different than any other minority living within Hirshabelle.

Hirshabelle finally has a winner. Congratulations to AbkoowDhiblaawe and his kinsfolk in their lordship over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle.

Anyone who believed XL would come to an agreement with Abgaal was daft .You have to remember XL weren't only going against Harti abgaal but also the landheere wacbuudhan as a whole whose represention in banadir got moved to HS even though they are the largest sub in xamar. XL never had a chance to be honest.

I think I know now why sahal80 is so obsessed with Marehan. He truly believes Farmaajo has empowered Abgaal to take full control over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle. He is focusing his anger and distrust he has towards Abgaal onto Marehan. Does he not know that Abgaal isn't in the palms of Marehan and that they are playing chess against all the inhabitants of Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle? Abgaal played their hands well. They are in full control of Hirshabelle for the foreseeable future. Xawadle has been placed in the back-burner and reduced to the likes of Xuud, someone who bend the knee after N&N called him out on his bluff. He had empty threats.

But, what I want to know is why is sahal80 afraid to target and address Abgaal's domination of Hirshabelle? Xawadle has been robbed of authority, security and ownership in broad daylight by Abgaal, but sahal80 is focused on Jubbaland.

just because I called out XL doesn't mean I am proN&N. mx are even more langaab who have no say in jubbaland as well.you guys are the XL of JL nd we are the OG of HS saaxib

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

Anyone who believed XL would come to an agreement with Abgaal was daft .You have to remember XL weren't only going against Harti abgaal but also the landheere wacbuudhan as a whole whose represention in banadir got moved to HS even though they are the largest sub in xamar. XL never had a chance to be honest.

I think I know now why sahal80 is so obsessed with Marehan. He truly believes Farmaajo has empowered Abgaal to take full control over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle. He is focusing his anger and distrust he has towards Abgaal onto Marehan. Does he not know that Abgaal isn't in the palms of Marehan and that they are playing chess against all the inhabitants of Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle? Abgaal played their hands well. They are in full control of Hirshabelle for the foreseeable future. Xawadle has been placed in the back-burner and reduced to the likes of Xuud, someone who bend the knee after N&N called him out on his bluff. He had empty threats.

But, what I want to know is why is sahal80 afraid to target and address Abgaal's domination of Hirshabelle? Xawadle has been robbed of authority, security and ownership in broad daylight by Abgaal, but sahal80 is focused on Jubbaland.

just because I called out XL doesn't mean I am proN&N. mx are even more langaab who have no say in jubbaland as well.you guys are the XL of JL nd we are the OG of HS saaxib

Hirshabelle and Jubbaland aren't the same. Far from it. While Hirshabelle under the leadership of Guudlawe, an Abgaal president is fully in control of 100% of Hirshabelle, the same cannot be said of Jubbaland. Jubbaland's three regions (Gedo, Middle Jubba and Lower Jubba) do not have a single authority over them. Gedo is under an administration that has close ties to the ruling N&N party of the Federal Government. Middle Jubba is under the authority of Al Shabab. Lower Jubba is divided into two parts. A part that is under the authority of Al Shabab and a part that is under the authority of the Kenyan-backed Ahmed Madoobe administration. You cannot equate Hirshabelle with Jubbaland nor can you equate Xawadle with Marehan.

There is a lot of internal divisions within the communities of Jubbaland.

[Amin5457]

I think I know now why sahal80 is so obsessed with Marehan. He truly believes Farmaajo has empowered Abgaal to take full control over Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle. He is focusing his anger and distrust he has towards Abgaal onto Marehan. Does he not know that Abgaal isn't in the palms of Marehan and that they are playing chess against all the inhabitants of Hiiraan and Middle Shabelle? Abgaal played their hands well. They are in full control of Hirshabelle for the foreseeable future. Xawadle has been placed in the back-burner and reduced to the likes of Xuud, someone who bend the knee after N&N called him out on his bluff. He had empty threats.

But, what I want to know is why is sahal80 afraid to target and address Abgaal's domination of Hirshabelle? Xawadle has been robbed of authority, security and ownership in broad daylight by Abgaal, but sahal80 is focused on Jubbaland.

just because I called out XL doesn't mean I am proN&N. mx are even more langaab who have no say in jubbaland as well.you guys are the XL of JL nd we are the OG of HS saaxib

Hirshabelle and Jubbaland aren't the same. Far from it. While Hirshabelle under the leadership of Guudlawe, an Abgaal president is fully in control of 100% of Hirshabelle, the same cannot be said of Jubbaland. Jubbaland's three regions (Gedo, Middle Jubba and Lower Jubba) do not have a single authority over them. Gedo is under an administration that has close ties to the ruling N&N party of the Federal Government. Middle Jubba is under the authority of Al Shabab. Lower Jubba is divided into two parts. A part that is under the authority of Al Shabab and a part that is under the authority of the Kenyan-backed Ahmed Madoobe administration. You cannot equate Hirshabelle with Jubbaland nor can you equate Xawadle with Marehan.

There is a lot of internal divisions within the communities of Jubbaland.

true.AS only controls 5% of middle Shabelle ( a bit of adan yabal district bording galgaduud) and the galjecel side of hiraan.Meanwhile the whole of middle jubba(most greeniest and beautiful region of somalia IMO) and half of lower and gedo is under AS smh. Thing with hirshabelle,even though abgaal are much larger than XL as a whole, we are more spread out with a whole subclan living in galgaduud and as of recently most abgaal living in xamar.But regardless we are more than Xl in hirshabelle anyways.And if you say mudulood, we are the majority of HS

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

just because I called out XL doesn't mean I am proN&N. mx are even more langaab who have no say in jubbaland as well.you guys are the XL of JL nd we are the OG of HS saaxib

Hirshabelle and Jubbaland aren't the same. Far from it. While Hirshabelle under the leadership of Guudlawe, an Abgaal president is fully in control of 100% of Hirshabelle, the same cannot be said of Jubbaland. Jubbaland's three regions (Gedo, Middle Jubba and Lower Jubba) do not have a single authority over them. Gedo is under an administration that has close ties to the ruling N&N party of the Federal Government. Middle Jubba is under the authority of Al Shabab. Lower Jubba is divided into two parts. A part that is under the authority of Al Shabab and a part that is under the authority of the Kenyan-backed Ahmed Madoobe administration. You cannot equate Hirshabelle with Jubbaland nor can you equate Xawadle with Marehan.

There is a lot of internal divisions within the communities of Jubbaland.

true.AS only controls 5% of middle Shabelle ( a bit of adan yabal district bording galgaduud) and the galjecel side of hiraan.Meanwhile the whole of middle jubba(most greeniest and beautiful region of somalia IMO) and half of lower and gedo is under AS smh. Thing with hirshabelle,even though abgaal are much larger than XL as a whole, we are more spread out with a whole subclan living in galgaduud and as of recently most abgaal living in xamar.But regardless we are more than Xl in hirshabelle anyways.And if you say mudulood, we are the majority of HS

Abgaal will soon be moving into Beledwayn. I see a new neighborhood in Beledwayn called New Jowhar.

[sahal80]

dockayeerkaan Amiin la dhahaayo fiiri war ani Abgaal ma heesto waxaan ka hadlayaa hirshabelle powersharing. waxaa leedahay hawadle ima xukumi karo ironically Hawadle appointed all the current governor of middle shabelle and the mayors of jowhar and balcad when Guudlaawe cant appoint a goveronr for Hiiraan due to his situation the admin recognized him but he cant change Jeyte. his cabinet is the same appointed by waare nothing has changed so cagodhigo maandhow

Xataa dabageed kuma dhoco Cali Jeyte. madaxweyne ciise wax qeybsi ayaga waa kala madax banaanyihiin ayagoo hal maamul ah oo isku karsan. Sanbaloolshe iyo Dabageed waa hassan muuse saas uu ugu dhagan yahay maadama isku idayaal yihiin laakiin Cali Jeyte iyo Goodax kuma dhaco waa odayal kale hawadlana odayaal baa maamula. meelna ku qoro Goodax waa soo baxayaa asagoo cid walbe ka soo horjeeda including guudlaawe he called him reer baadiye iyo fahad iyo farmaajo.

lastly intee igala qabsatey Abgaal ma heesto adiga dartaana uma xumeynayo waxaan ka hadlaa hirshabelle wax qeybsi si furan as long heshiis lagu socdo im not against Guudlaawe being president. intaas aan uga baxay.

Jowhar Abgaal iyo hawadle isku mar ay imaadeen shaqo ay u soo doonteen warshadihii talyaaniga xildhibaanadii ay qaateen xiligii talyaaniga wax deegaan waxaa ku ahaa gaaljecel iyo jareer Sh hasaan barsane Jihad in Jowhar is well known

talyaaniga markey wadada dhiseen Xawaadle ayaa ku soo fidey kadibna wuxuu u baxay galbeedka Jowhar ee fog sida dhurweyle. gaaljecel waxaa u soi harey bas koonfurta Jowhar ilaa qalimoow oo moobileen osman ka bilaabanayo 30km from balacad

Aw Geedi Jowhar governor for over a decade oo xawaadle bas shaqaaleen jiray is another factor waana dhaxleen xiligii USC and in the administration till 2000 when mahamed dheere arrived. Hawadle strategy has changhed after their clash with HG as they became allied with Abgaal there they left Jowhar admin for them they have the best hotels in Jowhar and have autonomy in their side all the security is from them unlike of Gaaljecel where the security is Abgaal. dugoomiye ku xigeenka amnigana us hawadle

Abgaal waxey degaan bariga wabiga bal adiga fiiri ma u dhawyihin laamiga? mahadaay laamiga kuma taala waxaa aad jid cad ka baxa. mahadaay iyo jowhar waxaa u dhaxeeya deegaano badan oo xawaadle ooy ugu weyntahay buurane. airportka jowhar maxaa loogu safraa hal saac asagoo 17 km u jira Jowhar? laamigaga maaha wuxuu u dhaxeeyaa tuulo jareer ah iyo tuulo xawaadle ah dhanka galbeedka wabiga. abgaal uma dhawa waa bariga wabiga airportkana waa galbeedka. intaas cashar hakuu noqoto hadaadan rumeysana ii sheeg tigid baan kuu jari geeley Xawaadle ah ayaa saacadaha kaa furan hadaad marti laamiga jowhar ka baxa



mapkaan baro baxar jareeraa noo dhaxeeya bariga wabigaa xigtaa




waa kuwaan tuulooyinka min Jowhar ilaa hiiraan ee hawadle


highway going through hawadle. airport should be here 4km from Jowhar but mohamed dheere was a avoiding hawadle who had isbaaro in buurane and built it next to the jareer at where it reads shiidle next to abdallah salaads name. look A bgaal baxar jareer ah baa noo dhaxeeya oo dagaalyahano ah iskuma dhawin xataa they r allied with Hawadle against Abgaal. they r at war with Abgaal but at peace with Hawadle. laamiga koonfurta Jowhar Gaaljecel that why Guudlaawe cant go to Balcad by land



isbaarist Guudlaawe since beeshiisa laamiga Jowhar heesan wadadaan uu u dhisi la yahay ay ku safraan 17km from Jowhar takes more than 1 hour to reach Jowhar not sure but they say warsangali Abgaal ganacsato relatives of Guudlaawe took qandaraaska mana dhisin

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

dockayeerkaan fiiri war ani Abgaal ma heesto waxaan ka hadlayaa hirshabelle powersharing. ironically Hawadle appointed all the current governor of middle shabelle and mayors of jowhar and balcad when Guudlaawe cant appoint a goveronr for Hiiraan to to his situation the admin recognized him but he cant change, his cabinet is the same appointed by waare nothing has changed so cagodhugo maandhow

Xataa dabageed kuma dhoco Cali Jeyte. madaxweyne ciise wax qeybsi ayaga waa kala madax banaanyihiin ayagoo hal maamul ah oo isku karsan. Sanbaloolshe iyo Dabageed waa hassan muuse saas uu ugu dhagan yahay laakiin Cali Jeyte iyo Goodax kuma dhaco meelna ku qoro Goodax waa soo baxayaa asagoo cid walbe ka soo horjeedl including guudlaawe he calked him reer baadiye iyo fahad iyo farmaajo.

lastly intee igaka qabsatey Abgaal ma heesto adiga dartaana uma xumeynayo waxaan ka hadlaa hirshabelle wax qeybsi si furan as long heshiis lagu socdo im not against Guudlaawe being president. intaas aan uga baxay.

Jowhar Abgaal iyo hawadle isku mar ay imaadeen shaqo ay u soo doonteen warshadihii talyaaniga xildhibaanadii ay qaateen xiligii talyaaniga wax deegaan waxaa ku ahaa gaaljecel iyo jareer Sh hasaan barsane Jihad in Jowhar is well known

talyaaniga markey wadada dhiseen Xawaadle ayaa ku soo fidey kadibna wuxuu u baxay galbeedka Jowhar ee fog sida dhurweyle. gaaljecel waxaa u soi harey bas koonfurta Jowhar ilaa qalimoow oo moobileen osman ka bilaabanayo 30km from balacad

Aw Geedi Jowhar governor for over a decade oo xawaadle bas shaqaaleen jiray is another factor waana dhaxleen xiligii USC and in the administration till 2000 when mahamed dheere arrived. Hawadle strategy has changhed after their clash with HG as they became allied with Abgaal there they left Jowhar admin for them they have the best hotels in Jowhar and have autonomy in their side all the security is from them unlike of Gaaljecel where the security is Abgaal. dugoomiye ku xigeenka amnigana us hawadle

Abgaal waxey degaan bariga wabiga bal adiga fiiri ma u dhawyihin laamiga? mahadaay laamiga kuma taala waxaa aad jid cad ka baxa. mahadaay iyo jowhar waxaa u dhaxeeya deegaano badan oo xawaadle ooy ugu weyntahay buurane. airportka jowhar maxaa loogu safraa hal saac asagoo 17 km u jira Jowhar? laamigaga maaha wuxuu u dhaxeeyaa tuulo jareer ah iyo tuulo xawaadle ah dhanka galbeedka wabiga. abgaal uma dhawa waa bariga wabiga airportkana waa galbeedka. intaas cashar hakuu noqoto hadaadan rumeysana ii sheeg tigid baan kuu jari geeley Xawaadle ah ayaa saacadaha kaa furan hadaad marti laamiga jowhar ka baxa



mapkaan baro baxar jareeraa noo dhaxeeya bariga wabigaa xigtaa




waa kuwaan tuulooyinka min Jowhar ilaa hiiraan ee hawadle


highway going through hawadle. airport should be here 4km from Jowhar but mohamed dheere was a avoiding hawadle who had isbaaro in buurane and built it next to the jareer at where it reads shiidle next to abdallah salaads name. look A bgaal baxar jareer ah baa noo dhaxeeya oo dagaalyahano ah iskuma dhawin xataa they r allied with Hawadle against Abgaal.



isbaarist Guudlaawe since beeshiisa laamiga Jowhar heesan wadadaan uu u dhisi la yahay ay ku safraan 17km from Jowhar takes more than 1 hour to reach Jowhar not sure but they say warsangali Abgaal ganacsato relatives of Guudlaawe took qandaraaska mana dhisin

sahal80 you are waffling. I read what you wrote and all it did was give me headache. Contradictions. Accusations. You're all over the place. Attack against President Guudlaawe of Hirshabelle, Abgaal subclans, Mohamed Dheere's character. I can smell your deep-rooted hatred for Abgaal from a 100 miles away. You believe Farmaajo's demise is intertwined with Abgaal's defeat in Hirshabelle powersharing.

I bet this are the things you'd like to see happen:

1) Political conflict between Abgaal and HG, so Xawadle can emerge as a dominate political force that will take over Hawiye's political leadership.

You know as long as Abgaal exist, Xawadle will be a minority within State-level politics and within the Federal-level politics.

[Murax]

WadannigaBarakaysan,

Your statement ‘You believe Farmaamo’w demise is intertwined with Abgal’s defeat in HiirShabelle powersharing’.

This is what I detected years ago from Sahal, but ofcourse he won’t admit it. Funny thing is by saying that he is basically admitting his inferior position in HiirShabeele and that he needs unrelated external events to happen in order to achieve his much sought after ‘Gentlemens agreement’. If you really believe Xawaadle are the dominant power there, you shouldn’t give a damn which clan is president. Btw can we please stop using that phrase? It’s actually a good phrase that Sahal ruined to describe bullshyt that doesn’t exist. Is there a really was a ‘gentlemen’s agreement’ between Abgal:Xawawaadle there would have been condemnation of Guudlaawe from the Mudulood Imam, Odayaal dhaqameed, Shariif, Culusow but nobody said a peep. There is No friggin ‘gentlemen agreement’ stop

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how manytimes i gotta say i'm the only nigga allowed to semi troll ustad sahal. but i don't troll so nobody else can