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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:13 am

Xamar unukaa leh warkii oo kooban :russ:

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:59 am

Sahal nin wayne oo macquul maad iska dhigtid. Relax, you don’t have to prove anything, read and respond appropriately. Exchange ideas, don’t flood the forum.

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:35 pm

Sahal nin wayne oo macquul maad iska dhigtid. Relax, you don’t have to prove anything, read and respond appropriately. Exchange ideas, don’t flood the forum.
"And yet Sahal has been passive aggressively mentioning V's topic everywhere as ridiculous not realizing he has no idea where the game is really being played at."

i read what you posted for your conspiracy theorist and it revolves around two things: Face-saving for Farmaajo because he knows that he will fail to protect mediera so he talked about a conspiracy theory that only exists in his imagination ajd it says his coming resignation is coordinated with Farmaajo and in collaboration with the African Union :pac:

and then he goes Kenya wamaa Kenya :snoop:

My view is very pragmatic and in line with diplomatic norms. A delegation from the Security Council of the African Union was visiting AMISOM in Mogadishu in there he spoke against the opposition and the prime minister and supported the position of Farmaajo who is a candidate. that's it. The envoy must enjoy the support of all parties others wise he is done and this what happened to Mediara. im hearing now he is waiting untill a new one replaces him under the cover of "resigning".

add to this Rooble just closed their local airport in Xalane what can Farmaajo do about this? :lol:

i think in la kalabixi doono in this month si final ah. Rooble wuxuu u sheegay MM inuu KG sugeeyn oo dastuurka ku dhaqmayo kooramkii waa diyaar iyo nus 183. Gedo ku ma jirto doorashada Gudoonka waxaan madoobe saxiixina ma u hirgaleyso

Waa dagaalkii kala baxa. waxaa kaloo la qorsheynayaa ciidamo beeleed Xamar soo gala kadibna Rooble ku dhawaaqo in april 12 aka inqilaabka Farmaajo la joojinayo amni daro awgeed!

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:26 pm

Sahal, you make this about face-saving because you don't want to deal with the critical question. Why is AU supporting someone you believe to be "compromised" or the very least "biased", and using diplomatic language to belittle the PM? Calling his statement "press release" and saying farmaajo giving "official" letter and representing the "federal republic of Somalia"? You are ignoring that, that is what I want you to analyze. They didn't do that on accident.

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:00 pm

Sahal, you make this about face-saving because you don't want to deal with the critical question. Why is AU supporting someone you believe to be "compromised" or the very least "biased", and using diplomatic language to belittle the PM? Calling his statement "press release" and saying farmaajo giving "official" letter and representing the "federal republic of Somalia"? You are ignoring that, that is what I want you to analyze. They didn't do that on accident.
why you dont get this: " it happens that when a high-ranking diplomat is expelled from a country, face-saving is done to protect his reputation and CV and then he resigns in a day or two, which is very common. Madeira will not return"

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:07 pm

Sahal, you make this about face-saving because you don't want to deal with the critical question. Why is AU supporting someone you believe to be "compromised" or the very least "biased", and using diplomatic language to belittle the PM? Calling his statement "press release" and saying farmaajo giving "official" letter and representing the "federal republic of Somalia"? You are ignoring that, that is what I want you to analyze. They didn't do that on accident.
why you dont get this: " it happens that when a high-ranking diplomat is expelled from a country, face-saving is done to protect his reputation and CV and then he resigns in a day or two, which is very common. Madeira will not return"
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your limited thinking. You were the same person that used to say Amisom will not protect Farmaajo :-@

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:11 pm

Sahal, you make this about face-saving because you don't want to deal with the critical question. Why is AU supporting someone you believe to be "compromised" or the very least "biased", and using diplomatic language to belittle the PM? Calling his statement "press release" and saying farmaajo giving "official" letter and representing the "federal republic of Somalia"? You are ignoring that, that is what I want you to analyze. They didn't do that on accident.
why you dont get this: " it happens that when a high-ranking diplomat is expelled from a country, face-saving is done to protect his reputation and CV and then he resigns in a day or two, which is very common. Madeira will not return"
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your limited thinking. You were the same person that used to say Amisom will not protect Farmaajo :-@
Rooble kicked out that calooshii u shaqeyste stop making facesaving for Farmaajo and stand by him in his useless attempt to stop the PNG. "resign: or not resign it means the AU recognised the PNG in other words your Farmaajo is useless ousted a year ago see you then! :pac:

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:17 pm

Wasiir Cabdullahi Carab oo la wareegay wasaarada dibada iyo Cabdi saciid oo seeftu saarantahay.
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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby MrSinister » Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:17 pm

Sahal, you make this about face-saving because you don't want to deal with the critical question. Why is AU supporting someone you believe to be "compromised" or the very least "biased", and using diplomatic language to belittle the PM? Calling his statement "press release" and saying farmaajo giving "official" letter and representing the "federal republic of Somalia"? You are ignoring that, that is what I want you to analyze. They didn't do that on accident.
why you dont get this: " it happens that when a high-ranking diplomat is expelled from a country, face-saving is done to protect his reputation and CV and then he resigns in a day or two, which is very common. Madeira will not return"
But they didn’t do any of this when farmajo issued PNG. Even if he resigns, this letter is very problematic. At this point the AU is not even trying to be neutral. It makes you wonder how many other of the IC secretly support farmajo.

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:43 pm

Sahal, you make this about face-saving because you don't want to deal with the critical question. Why is AU supporting someone you believe to be "compromised" or the very least "biased", and using diplomatic language to belittle the PM? Calling his statement "press release" and saying farmaajo giving "official" letter and representing the "federal republic of Somalia"? You are ignoring that, that is what I want you to analyze. They didn't do that on accident.
why you dont get this: " it happens that when a high-ranking diplomat is expelled from a country, face-saving is done to protect his reputation and CV and then he resigns in a day or two, which is very common. Madeira will not return"
But they didn’t do any of this when farmajo issued PNG. Even if he resigns, this letter is very problematic. At this point the AU is not even trying to be neutral. It makes you wonder how many other of the IC secretly support farmajo.
bc Farmaajo handed over power to Rooble and said we sorted out between us that why MM and PL and JL are dealing with Rooble instead of Farmaajo. you have Nigeria and Ghana who work with Kenya remember when Farmaajo asked for "African solutions to african problems" and then they sent a pro Kenya envoy? Bc of Roobles new role the AU accepted it.

now they should remember this its Rooble who leads the process not Farmaajo who is gone

Then you have Djibouti who is pro Rooble and Ethio and Eritrea who are supporting Farmaajo. Ethio has its internal problems these days and is no longer important

The AU are just facesaving for him he is done. let me ask you this question? if "he resigns" Doesn't this mean that they accepted his expulsion? this conspiracy theorist who are face-saving for their adeer Farmaajo for they know he can stop this marka way ka hor dhacayan jabkooda! . saying he is not fired or PNG’ed he just resigned what logic is that? waa indhoadeeg ay Farmaajo xaal mastuur ugu sameynayaan iyo marmarsiyo usameen.

remeber AU rejected Farmaajos extension.

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby SultanOrder » Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:24 pm

Sahal, you make this about face-saving because you don't want to deal with the critical question. Why is AU supporting someone you believe to be "compromised" or the very least "biased", and using diplomatic language to belittle the PM? Calling his statement "press release" and saying farmaajo giving "official" letter and representing the "federal republic of Somalia"? You are ignoring that, that is what I want you to analyze. They didn't do that on accident.
why you dont get this: " it happens that when a high-ranking diplomat is expelled from a country, face-saving is done to protect his reputation and CV and then he resigns in a day or two, which is very common. Madeira will not return"
But they didn’t do any of this when farmajo issued PNG. Even if he resigns, this letter is very problematic. At this point the AU is not even trying to be neutral. It makes you wonder how many other of the IC secretly support farmajo.
It's not lost on Sahal the problematic nature of the letter, but if he acknowledges it, he feels like he will lose face. He can't publicly admit that AU leadership are supporting Farmaajo, and that other IC secretly support Farmaajo. He is too prideful, which makes him hard to have a reasonable discussion. As he has said, he wants to win against his enemies on here. :lol:

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:17 pm

This guy who was saying Farmaajo won(posted by granpa) now he is preaching my talking point(Face-Saving) PO is either Face-Saving for his adeerkiis(ceeb u asturid or he is clueless kid like his conspiracy theorist. Saying AU supporting Farmaajo shows this the same AU who was against his extension how many countries in the AU? you have Kenya, You have Djibouti you have.... . Farmaajo pays this guy and let him overstay from 2016 till now

"Diblomaasiyiinta xalane fadhiya waxey lee yihiin warqadii ka soo baxdey midowga africa waxey aheyd (face saving) ama waji dhaq loo saneynayey madeira ee wado uu ku sii joogi karo ma taalo"

at 3:00
https://fb.watch/chHZ8r6YHJ/


wasiirka amniga madeira waa tagey Farmaajo wuxuu rabaa in Shacabka Xamar ku jihaadan amisom sidaasna Al shabaab Xamar ku qabsato wuxuu rabaa inuu haduu joogi karin al Shabaab ku wareejiyo dalka

https://fb.watch/chLdg3ou6j/
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Postby SultanOrder » Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:07 pm

Sahal, you have to realize who you are arguing with and what you are arguing about. You can't bring the same argument you have with grandpa to me.

From the beginning I said:
Madeira will leave
This leak was embarrassing the Rooble

Then when the response from the AU came back I said:
Madeira will leave
The response was a diplomatic slap at Rooble

Farmaajo knows Modeira wasn't going to stay, but he still made it a point to go against Rooble. Why? Because he wants to position himself on the side of AU, Amisom, IC. When the AU thanks Farmaajo for his "Official" letter and the position of the "Federal Government of Somalia", they are saying we are on the side of Farmaajo and we will not back down. Therefore, Modeira will resign voluntarily, to put AU out of this position, but they will replace him with someone who is favorable to Farmaajo.

If Farmaajo had AU on his side yesterday and he has AU on his side today, what changed? What did Rooble accomplish?

Siyaasad baro niyo.

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Re: Rooble declares Qatar- paid mercenary Madeira persona non grata!

Postby sahal80 » Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:28 pm

Sahal, you have to realize who you are arguing with and what you are arguing about. You can't bring the same argument you have with grandpa to me.

From the beginning I said:
Madeira will leave
This leak was embarrassing the Rooble

Then when the response from the AU came back I said:
Madeira will leave
The response was a diplomatic slap at Rooble

Farmaajo knows Modeira wasn't going to stay, but he still made it a point to go against Rooble. Why? Because he wants to position himself on the side of AU, Amisom, IC. When the AU thanks Farmaajo for his "Official" letter and the position of the "Federal Government of Somalia", they are saying we are on the side of Farmaajo and we will not back down. Therefore, Modeira will resign voluntarily, to put AU out of this position, but they will replace him with someone who is favorable to Farmaajo.

If Farmaajo had AU on his side yesterday and he has AU on his side today, what changed? What did Rooble accomplish?

Siyaasad baro niyo.
"If Farmaajo had AU on his side yesterday and he has AU on his side today, what changed? What did Rooble accomplish?"
you have a fish memory!
this is Musa Faqi appointing pro Kenya as called by Farmaajo. he was forced to say i hand over power to Rooble im out of the equation





You admit he's going. who forced him? Isn't it Rooble? Why did Farmaajo not appreciate the situation as long as he knows that he committed a great diplomatic mistake? why does he humilated himself if he knows that he will be rejected and will not return? The rest of what you said about being a diplomatic win for farmaajo just exists in your head another conspiracy theory.
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