The diplomatic battle has begun between Madobe and SFG

[sahal80]

Farmaajo wuxuu madoobe lagalay dagaal ciidan laakiin arinta JL furaheeda waa diplomaasiyad waxba kama jiraan Kenya ayaa bad naga rabta iyo bla bla. waxyaabo hoose ayaa la kala badalan karaa sida inay saameyntooda kulahaadaan JL waliba PMka OG ah baa loogu darey, ganacsiga oo loo furo. Farmaajo wuxuu watey Mashruuc Kenya ku lid ah kulahaa JL ayaan dagaal ku qabsan iyo iyo Kenya aan ka saari

Axmed Madoobe oo rabay inuu Hassan Sh kula kulmo Nairobi ayuu Kenya u sheegay inay safirkiisa joojiyaan. sidoo kale Deni oo meeshii uu Nairobi sii mari jiray markuu Dubai u socdo halkaas uu kula kulmo masuuliyiinta DP World in AdisAbaba marey waliba wasiirka maaliyada Abgaal oo Nairobi ku sugayey ayaa AdisAbaba kula kulmay!!

Dawlada Kenya ayaa Ka danbeysay inta booqashada Hassan Sh ka dhaceyso inay Madoobe iyo Deni Imaan Nairobi.

Mahad Salaad oo galay booskii Fahad iyo Kulane jiis laakin waa barnaamaj aan horey u sheegay oo Card Gedo loo istcmaalayo ayadoo JL la hoos geenayo oo loo sameynayo gudoomiye ay doortaan. there are no permanent friends only permanent interests.

Axmed madoobe sanad ayaa u harey sidaan sheegay maalintii la magacaabey Xamse 15 june waxaa jire qorshe ah inuusan dastuurka badalin oo labo mar bas u ogol. axmed madoobe oo ka hordhacaya waqtigeeda ayaa hada raba inuu badalo maadama ay dawlada cusub tahay laakiin markii la gaaro xiligeeda ayay ka hor imaan ayadoo Kenya loo marayo





"aintaan aa Gedo loo sameyn doonaa inay gudoomiyaheeda doorato Xamze waa taageersanyahay wuxuu u arkaa Maamulka Madoobe maamul jabhad ah oon fidsaneyn wuxuu rabaa mushaarako balaaran oo mx xor ku yihiin laakin nin OG aa wali JL hogaamin doona. Madoobe markuu cusbaa uu dastuur meel ka soo copyeestey dhahay laba mar ka badan isma sharixi karo qodabkaas aa looga taqalusi dionaa inuu dastuurka badalin ooy diidi doonaan xamze iyo hassan sh markaan weydiiyay siyaasadiisa JL ku aadan laakin nin OG ay ku badali si fikrada looga gado OGaadeenka iyo Kenya. laakin maamul furfuran oo "North korea" aheen aa laga dhigi JL. I heard xamze is better for mx than a Mj pm oo madoobe uga danbeeya waayo waa ninka wax badali kara oo la deal gareen kartid intaad qof sadexaad u mari laheed"

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[Rebelxx222]

Seems like no lesson was learned from the past 15 years. Give it 2-3 years and the 2 sides will reconcile on the upcoming federal elections. Jubbaland needs to have the free will to decide its own faith and make its own decisions regarding political issues. Rw Hamse Hsm waxba u soo kordhin maayo dhanka Jubbaland. All Ogadens regardless of differences view Jubbaland as their legitimate state within the country. Ahmed Madoobe will be replaced surely but we will never accept his removal through the use of force or Dagaal.

Wa Billahi Towfiiq

[Kees70]

Ustaadow its as you said that there is no Friends in Politics just pure interests, therefore it was always Mogadishu's interests that the kenyan project Jubaland be dismantled and under Mogadishu's hegemony no matter what.

Jubaland should either be 1 state under Mogadishu or it should be hacked into pieces Gedo to KG State and Middle Juba when Hawiyes liberate attached to S/hoose/Banaadir State.

Politics is all about safeguarding your national interests from the foreigners and their foreign backed stooges.

[Rebelxx222]

Ustaadow its as you said that there is no Friends in Politics just pure interests, therefore it was always Mogadishu's interests that the kenyan project Jubaland be dismantled and under Mogadishu's hegemony no matter what.

Jubaland should either be 1 state under Mogadishu or it should be hacked into pieces Gedo to KG State and Middle Juba when Hawiyes liberate attached to S/hoose/Banaadir State.

Politics is all about safeguarding your national interests from the foreigners and their foreign backed stooges.

Have you taken your meds today?

[Kees70]

[sahal80]

Seems like no lesson was learned from the past 15 years. Give it 2-3 years and the 2 sides will reconcile on the upcoming federal elections. Jubbaland needs to have the free will to decide its own faith and make its own decisions regarding political issues. Rw Hamse Hsm waxba u soo kordhin maayo dhanka Jubbaland. All Ogadens regardless of differences view Jubbaland as their legitimate state within the country. Ahmed Madoobe will be replaced surely but we will never accept his removal through the use of force or Dagaal.

Wa Billahi Towfiiq

SFG role is facilitating the elections and it's legitimacy, mediating between politicians and the recognition card no intervention. even madoobe was recognized by Farmaajo though he was forced to do so but that opened the doors for him. this role is enough to prevent Madobe from running again in coordination with Kenya otherwise it will not work just like under Farmaajo. madoobe is going turn into Ethiopia but the latter repects diplomatic codes what she does is creating new gebre and IGAD and backing the regions this way this scenario is likely to happen again under "the brother"

[Rebelxx222]

Seems like no lesson was learned from the past 15 years. Give it 2-3 years and the 2 sides will reconcile on the upcoming federal elections. Jubbaland needs to have the free will to decide its own faith and make its own decisions regarding political issues. Rw Hamse Hsm waxba u soo kordhin maayo dhanka Jubbaland. All Ogadens regardless of differences view Jubbaland as their legitimate state within the country. Ahmed Madoobe will be replaced surely but we will never accept his removal through the use of force or Dagaal.

Wa Billahi Towfiiq

SFG role is facilitating the elections and it's legitimacy, mediating between politicians and the recognition card no intervention. even madoobe was recognized by Farmaajo though he was forced to do so but that opened the doors for him. this role is enough to prevent Madobe from running again in coordination with Kenya otherwise it will not work just like under Farmaajo. madoobe is going turn into Ethiopia but the latter repects diplomatic codes what she does is creating new gebre and IGAD and backing the regions this way this scenario is likely to happen again under "the brother"

I don’t think Madoobe has any interests in running again. His goal is to facilitate the Jubbaland state elections expected to be held in 2025 and pave the way for another Ogaden Absame that holds the same political views and standards to retain the presidential seat. Me personally I don’t care whether Madoobe continues leading or not, but the reoccurring political interference & destabilizing efforts from the central government cannot and will not be tolerated. A Middle ground solution between all sides is the best solution to a lasting peaceful resolve.’

[sahal80]

Ustaadow its as you said that there is no Friends in Politics just pure interests, therefore it was always Mogadishu's interests that the kenyan project Jubaland be dismantled and under Mogadishu's hegemony no matter what.

Jubaland should either be 1 state under Mogadishu or it should be hacked into pieces Gedo to KG State and Middle Juba when Hawiyes liberate attached to S/hoose/Banaadir State.

Politics is all about safeguarding your national interests from the foreigners and their foreign backed stooges.

What you say is the reason why Farmaajo failed in JL. The Kenyan project will remain in there as long as its troops are there and there is no other security alternative. This is another policy dealing with JL through Kenya who wants a stable JL and the key is a change in the adminstration "from jabhad to civil administration"
They r taking advantage of this thing to make change a requirement for reconciliation in JL

[Kees70]

Ustaadow its as you said that there is no Friends in Politics just pure interests, therefore it was always Mogadishu's interests that the kenyan project Jubaland be dismantled and under Mogadishu's hegemony no matter what.

Jubaland should either be 1 state under Mogadishu or it should be hacked into pieces Gedo to KG State and Middle Juba when Hawiyes liberate attached to S/hoose/Banaadir State.

Politics is all about safeguarding your national interests from the foreigners and their foreign backed stooges.

What you say is the reason why Farmaajo failed in JL. The Kenyan project will remain in there as long as its troops are there and there is no other security alternative. This is another policy dealing with JL through Kenya who wants a stable JL and the key is a change in the adminstration "from jabhad to civil administration"
They r taking advantage of this thing to make change a requirement for reconciliation in JL

Definitely ustaadow, Jubaland needs an immediate change from Ahmed Madobes Jabhad/ guerrilla government to an Civilian government that SFG favours, and soon insha'Allahi the security alternatives for Kenya's presence in Jubaland will be replaced with the incoming Somalia's Professionally trained Military troops Abroad.

[sahal80]

Seems like no lesson was learned from the past 15 years. Give it 2-3 years and the 2 sides will reconcile on the upcoming federal elections. Jubbaland needs to have the free will to decide its own faith and make its own decisions regarding political issues. Rw Hamse Hsm waxba u soo kordhin maayo dhanka Jubbaland. All Ogadens regardless of differences view Jubbaland as their legitimate state within the country. Ahmed Madoobe will be replaced surely but we will never accept his removal through the use of force or Dagaal.

Wa Billahi Towfiiq

SFG role is facilitating the elections and it's legitimacy, mediating between politicians and the recognition card no intervention. even madoobe was recognized by Farmaajo though he was forced to do so but that opened the doors for him. this role is enough to prevent Madobe from running again in coordination with Kenya otherwise it will not work just like under Farmaajo. madoobe is going turn into Ethiopia but the latter repects diplomatic codes what she does is creating new gebre and IGAD and backing the regions this way this scenario is likely to happen again under "the brother"

I don’t think Madoobe has any interests in running again. His goal is to facilitate the Jubbaland state elections expected to be held in 2025 and pave the way for another Ogaden Absame that holds the same political views and standards to retain the presidential seat. Me personally I don’t care whether Madoobe continues leading or not, but the reoccurring political interference & destabilizing efforts from the central government cannot and will not be tolerated. A Middle ground solution between all sides is the best solution to a lasting peaceful resolve.’

he has 4 years mandate which ends 2023.
One month left to complete his third year. Damjadeed has big plan of taking over OG and MX. Xamse is working on finding Damjaded jadeed OG to replace Madoobe and they have Doodisho for mx against Farmaajo.

according to Geylan he wants to change the constitution so he can run for the third time


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[Rebelxx222]

I will revisit this Thread once the Cold War between both sides ends

Jowhar & Masagaway are more in need of this “civil administration” than any other regions.

@kees Sahal is right you are way out of touch with reality and speaking from your emotions. The way you wrote such crap made me to believe that you were one of Farmaajo’s close advisors on the Jubbaland case

No offense but you are starting to sound like CBB

[Rebelxx222]

he has 4 years mandate which ends 2023.
One month left to complete his third year. Damjadeed has big plan of taking over OG and MX. Xamse is working on finding Damjaded jadeed OG to replace Madoobe and they have Doodisho for mx against Farmaajo.

according to Geylan he wants to change the constitution so he can run for the third time
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Good luck

[BigBreak]

If the President of the Federal Republic of Somalia was cagdheer, users like Rebel and Django would want all regions of Somalia to be under the iron fist of this president. Such clan chauvinism/supremacism is why Somalia is a failed, balkanised state and a hellhole

[barbarossa]

Good to see HAGs solidifying their grip on power, while hapless faqash, not only lose, with exceeding rapidity, whatever nominal political clout they hitherto enjoyed , but are, for all intent and purposes, on the verge of being relegated to ignoble .5 status.

Alxamdulilah, now that it appears hawiye has emerged as the clear winner in the thirty year skinny power struggle, the nation has better chances than ever to move forward towards brighter future.

[noer]

ustad sahal it ain't start yet. governor madobe got 1 year left in his. he can't start nothing for 1 year. minimum. pm hamsa better be a good boy for the next year i'm the deputy pm of the ex italian colony. ready to do the job if hamsa fails