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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby mahoka » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:00 pm

Zal we won’t change our stance because our stance is one against Somalia as a whole our stance against Mogadishu is different then that of garowe We stand on principle we have nothing to do with hawiye or darood or on their squabels

Somaliland have every right to withdraw from the union the idea was to have five somali states United. The moment afweyne ur father recognised somali kilil as part of Ethiopia is the day u said good bye to somaliland there is nothing that binds somaliland to Somalia not evens ratified act of union because the walanweyns didn’t even signed the act of union in 1960. That’s why the Somali court couldn’t persecute hassan Kayd walanwal who led the somaliland coup of 1961 they were all released no charges because there was no act of union the colonel later joined the snm the independence movement of somaliland The day u gave up on Somaliweyn is the day u said good bye to somaliland

Somaliland is here to stay till the end of times whether u like it or u cry for more cambuulo or muufo. U can’t stop us and u know it to somaliland has been independent for more then three decades longer then cancerous union and soon there will be no alive in somaliland who even remembers the crazy walanweyns and their somalia



Ow qalib by ur stance Somalia is a province of somaliland
Because Somaliland is older then somalia gained first independence if we willingly joined to form the somali republic we didn’t join somalia we formed a state where we were equal parts of. Once u get that u will get with the program

There were no pacts but history is written that somalia and somaliland United their parliaments. And formed the somali republic your flag symbolises that five stars if you are equating somaliland with puntland why doesn’t the star have six or seven points you have no argument

The union in 1960 was a polite word for annexation since the State was housed and governed from Mogadishu. If Somaliland was an equal partner what stops Djibouti being part of the Union and saying we want everything split three ways equally with Somaliland and Somalia :lol: the flag was a symbolic gesture to fight colonial powers in Somali inhabited territories not a political gesture. SL, PL and even JL all have grievances against Xamar just for different reasons and the point is to find a Xal. I am seeing a lot of outdated and heavily debunked arguments here. SL claiming they had independence first by a few days yet they pre agreed to hoist our flag and our constitution. Also PL claiming they founded Federalism as a get out clause to fight Xamar is another debunked thereom the negotiations in Mbagathi took 2 years and it was a coalition of warlords who were excluded from the TNG that came together in Kenya to add articles of federal autonomy and upgrade the existing structures of the TNG. If you look at who the signed parties were they were split by 4.5 it was not some imaginery imposed state formed by PL. There is no doubt PL is a beneficiary of a Federal Republic but Federalism was heavily supported by Ethiopia, Kenya, RRA who called themselves the South West Administration, JL headed by Barre Hiiraale and the anti Abdiqasim Hawiye warlords like Mohamed Dheere who was in Jowhar and invited AY to make a base there.
Nailed it on the head! all these events will be classed into the xisaabta dambe. Ninna xanti ma mooga. Hawiye accepted federalism for a temporary solution not long term because they dont benefit from it in anyway and they and HSM are well aware of it. With HSM building his foreign policy and fighting shabaab the status quo of somalia has its days counted. May PL and SL stay in their slumber because once HSM knocks on theirdoors with danab i hope they answer with ease.

Hawiye is the biggest obstacle to a stable Somalia, every Tom ceeb and harry knows this, even honest hawiye will admit this. We know the position of hawiye even in xamar before 1991 - hawiye has gotten fat over foreign aid donated in Somalia’s name. Just this month federal member states are complaining about a missing $9.5m donated by the UAE for the drought, hsm already stole it. I ain’t hating hawiye for taking advantage of the situation but please don’t treat us like kids, we know hawiye benefits from the status quo more than isaaq or darod (under sh shariif Somalia’s sea was sold to Kenya, that Ali mahdi Guy who was fighting caydiid allowed lots of toxic stuff to be dumped by Italian companies in exchange for money) - hawiye in the U.K. will openly admit they got rich since the fall of the Gov)


Now this isn’t only hawiye, isaaq major businesses get away with not paying any tax and shutting down competition. You got few businessmen who control SL- it has become a total oligarchy.


Too many cows have got fat from the current status quo and this is true - particularly for hawiye and isaaq

This is for example why biixi had such venom for farmaajo.


Say what you want about farmaajo but he was the only guy who couldn’t end this madness.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby Zak77 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:03 pm

In the 1960 union SL became a Provence of Somalia not an equal partner. Evidence for this is the fact the capital became xamar, the president and pm were from the south, the heads of the army were southern etc. the isaaq people have been told lies about being equal partners when their own leaders gave away everything to the south. The problem for northerners is they simply don’t hold each other accountable. If any hawiye leader for example damaged hawiye influence/power etc they wouldn’t be alive let alone considered a hero, in the north we have a tribal culture which says we must support all decisions our leaders make even if it’s very bad for the masses. Once isaaq get rid of this mentality I think they can go forward.
100% this is what I meant by isaaq lied to themselves and are lying to themsleves actively and what did they gain in all those lies? Nothing other than destroying themselves. They are honestly more deluded than NN to me. Isaaq need to be more realistic because times are changing especially in the horn. Their leaders lie to them and all depend on the Somalia they hate. Hawiye are waking up from their long slumber and reconstructing their politics HSM is freeing his dhul, telling puntland for lack of better vocabulary to fuckoff when they ask for more than they deserve and he is Keeping his hawiye close and steady. Daarood are busy eliminating each other and Isaaq are day dreaming oh how the times have changed.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby theyuusuf143 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:05 pm

The paper based donkey administration of hassan gargurte can not and will never be able to change the reality on the ground. Somaliland is true reality on the ground . Even if don't get any recognition, each day that passes give us more legitimacy to be respected by others. As long as we have the capacity to deal with foreign entities and the manpower to defend our country nothing is gonna change any time soon . Eventually somalis against Somaliland have only two options.

1. Fight and defeat us by the barrel of the gun, because that's the same Road we took to create somaliland, we lost hundreds of thousands of peaple any one against us must be willing to sacrifice more. If not please stay safe in your maamul goboleed.

2. Referendum , ye we don't mind Referendum but only if ee are in control of it , in other words there won't be any fair Referendum any way , we control both the land and peaple and determine the outcome of any Referendum. So we go back to option 1 , which is nothing but war. Farta taag ninkii aaminsan in somaliland dagaal lagu soo celin karaw .
In the event that Somaliland would have to engage Somalia in War after Somalia freed itself from Shabaab and is on its feet I'm sorry to break it to you, but Somaliland would be decisively defeated but no one wants or needs that route and talks are more than possible and will be the only possible solution when th time arrives. This would not be the 90s with Jabhads like USC saving you this would be another whole ballgame with IC supporting a fully sovereign somalia. They do not want another Somali head on the International table.
Well I am sorry but shabaab is not going any where, and those who are keeping you alive will soon leave for good. Then your incompetence will show up again. The world will always respect our self determination and democratic values, no one is attacking us on behalf of somalia aan kuugu celiyo no one not even majority of your states are willing to fight against us . Because They have nothing to gain from it. If somalia have national forces that can defeat us they would have already win against alshabaab.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby theyuusuf143 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:10 pm

The only qadaadweyn with motive to fight against us are the dhabayaco no else .

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby Zak77 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:11 pm




The union in 1960 was a polite word for annexation since the State was housed and governed from Mogadishu. If Somaliland was an equal partner what stops Djibouti being part of the Union and saying we want everything split three ways equally with Somaliland and Somalia :lol: the flag was a symbolic gesture to fight colonial powers in Somali inhabited territories not a political gesture. SL, PL and even JL all have grievances against Xamar just for different reasons and the point is to find a Xal. I am seeing a lot of outdated and heavily debunked arguments here. SL claiming they had independence first by a few days yet they pre agreed to hoist our flag and our constitution. Also PL claiming they founded Federalism as a get out clause to fight Xamar is another debunked thereom the negotiations in Mbagathi took 2 years and it was a coalition of warlords who were excluded from the TNG that came together in Kenya to add articles of federal autonomy and upgrade the existing structures of the TNG. If you look at who the signed parties were they were split by 4.5 it was not some imaginery imposed state formed by PL. There is no doubt PL is a beneficiary of a Federal Republic but Federalism was heavily supported by Ethiopia, Kenya, RRA who called themselves the South West Administration, JL headed by Barre Hiiraale and the anti Abdiqasim Hawiye warlords like Mohamed Dheere who was in Jowhar and invited AY to make a base there.
Nailed it on the head! all these events will be classed into the xisaabta dambe. Ninna xanti ma mooga. Hawiye accepted federalism for a temporary solution not long term because they dont benefit from it in anyway and they and HSM are well aware of it. With HSM building his foreign policy and fighting shabaab the status quo of somalia has its days counted. May PL and SL stay in their slumber because once HSM knocks on theirdoors with danab i hope they answer with ease.

Hawiye is the biggest obstacle to a stable Somalia, every Tom ceeb and harry knows this, even honest hawiye will admit this. We know the position of hawiye even in xamar before 1991 - hawiye has gotten fat over foreign aid donated in Somalia’s name. Just this month federal member states are complaining about a missing $9.5m donated by the UAE for the drought, hsm already stole it. I ain’t hating hawiye for taking advantage of the situation but please don’t treat us like kids, we know hawiye benefits from the status quo more than isaaq or darod (under sh shariif Somalia’s sea was sold to Kenya, that Ali mahdi Guy who was fighting caydiid allowed lots of toxic stuff to be dumped by Italian companies in exchange for money) - hawiye in the U.K. will openly admit they got rich since the fall of the Gov)


Now this isn’t only hawiye, isaaq major businesses get away with not paying any tax and shutting down competition. You got few businessmen who control SL- it has become a total oligarchy.


Too many cows have got fat from the current status quo and this is true - particularly for hawiye and isaaq

This is for example why biixi had such venom for farmaajo.


Say what you want about farmaajo but he was the only guy who couldn’t end this madness.
I completely disagree. I don't need go deep into Somali politics for you to understand there were multiple factors and Hawie are not against a strong somalia. This year proved who is against Somalias progress and I will not dive into that either all I have to say is Hawiye are waking up and doing the necessary I will be around over the next few months to observe peoples opinions on developments in the nation. The status quo i was speaking about was political. Financially hawiye waxba laguma qabsan karo they built themselves and pay their taxes.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby Zak77 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:19 pm

The paper based donkey administration of hassan gargurte can not and will never be able to change the reality on the ground. Somaliland is true reality on the ground . Even if don't get any recognition, each day that passes give us more legitimacy to be respected by others. As long as we have the capacity to deal with foreign entities and the manpower to defend our country nothing is gonna change any time soon . Eventually somalis against Somaliland have only two options.

1. Fight and defeat us by the barrel of the gun, because that's the same Road we took to create somaliland, we lost hundreds of thousands of peaple any one against us must be willing to sacrifice more. If not please stay safe in your maamul goboleed.

2. Referendum , ye we don't mind Referendum but only if ee are in control of it , in other words there won't be any fair Referendum any way , we control both the land and peaple and determine the outcome of any Referendum. So we go back to option 1 , which is nothing but war. Farta taag ninkii aaminsan in somaliland dagaal lagu soo celin karaw .
In the event that Somaliland would have to engage Somalia in War after Somalia freed itself from Shabaab and is on its feet I'm sorry to break it to you, but Somaliland would be decisively defeated but no one wants or needs that route and talks are more than possible and will be the only possible solution when th time arrives. This would not be the 90s with Jabhads like USC saving you this would be another whole ballgame with IC supporting a fully sovereign somalia. They do not want another Somali head on the International table.
Well I am sorry but shabaab is not going any where, and those who are keeping you alive will soon leave for good. Then your incompetence will show up again. The world will always respect our self determination and democratic values, no one is attacking us on behalf of somalia aan kuugu celiyo no one not even majority of your states are willing to fight against us . Because They have nothing to gain from it. If somalia have national forces that can defeat us they would have already win against alshabaab.
If you didnt read my initial response or arent upto date with somali politics, The somali army or should i Say hawiye are freeing the south as we speak. You can keep reiterating that shabaab is here to stay but sorry to break it to you they are being cleaned out. To add on, in my initial response i wrote how hawiye have nothing to lose regardless of what the north does whether they stay in limbo or reconcile. we would not waste any resources or boys to bring back a unrecognised desert with a few developed cities(not trolling waa runta cad). What you do is your decision you just need to be realistic to come out the other end.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby theyuusuf143 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:41 pm

@Zak77

As long as you are not willing to waste any human resources then I think we are done here . We are willing to loose it all. We are even worse than alshabaab because we have to many reasons and goals to fight for somaliland existence. The only difference is they are seeking for janna. We are looking for glory, we are a good example
and hope for millions of peaple ho are denied their rights of self determination. The world is changing and its changing in our favour. " somalia is fragmented into minced meat" just like Dr's muj edna Adam said. She meant maamul goboleeds , look We love spaghetti and meat balls , 😋 we simply eat the the most convenient ball (puntland) and leave the rest for you . Problem solved.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:01 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if the hawiye politicians in Mogadishu and isaaq elite work together. The hawiye need the Somali land mp’s in Hamar and the isaaq poiticians mislead the public about seeking independence.

Why do you think the SL mp’s are always welcomed in hargeisa.

The only way SL will be recognized is with negotiations with PL, and in that case, PL will be independent too.
My friend this is very well known but since most Somalis are tribalistic in nature we don’t say anything. Everyone knows isaaq politicians work closely with HAG and that the last thing isaaq leaders want is aqoonsi- if they get aqoonsi no more isaaq masses turning blind eye to rampant corruption or loss of civil liberties “to avoid another civil war” it’s why hargeisa gov coordinated the votes of dirty waqooyi mps.

HAG elite and isaaq elites have been working together since the 1960s and the biggest losers are isaaq lol

The farmaajo presidency exposed this to many people, most isaaq political analysits wanted farmaajo to return since he is pro China/Russia bloc (pro Ethiopia Eritrea) and this would’ve allowed SL to take the western bloc and get their support- since hsm is a hawiye who cares about money he has no geo-strategic interests and will go where the money is.


The question for the isaaq masses is how long will their tribalism allow them tolerate such traitorous leaders

This is why I’m happy we not president. Under a 100 days exposed this. I can’t :wow:

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby Khalid Ali » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:09 pm

Let me make a few things clear a United somalia cannot ever defeat somaliland ur popolation isn’t much more then ours second u won’t fight with more spirit then us we owning the land will fight with much more spirit and that will give us the edge second the isaaq clan the most majority qabil in somaliland have never been defeated and their unity is so much stronger thejnwhwt what ever unity hawiye and darood have and third the war is good for us the ic will not stand with u but the one that is being attacked and fourth scenario one if Somalia ever defeated shabaab and amisom leaves do u think the walanweyn are ready for another Thirdy years war with somaliland



Second zak let me ask u this u want a dominated hawiye and Mogadishu why on earth do u then whant to unite with me and Somaliland maar dhulkaaga Iska haysatid u cant rule me sxb

We are realistic we live in reality the one that is dreaming is that the one in the bunker dreaming that one day somaliland would say yes let’s be ruled by xamar crazy talk weye

As yusuuuf said if u invade us and conquer do as u wish if not ha is Daalin sxb



Sahal let me ask you this is hassan sheikh appeasing darood when He is down selling somaliland. Isn’t that madness he is appeasing mj and marexaan if we were to hand over Mj and marexaan the lands of the Warsangali and dhulbahante they would support our recognition in a blink wax dhibaato oo kale nama dhex yaalan darood don’t care if isaaq is ruled from xamar they just oppose our border for it divides their qabil. Adiguna u agree with them for what exactly?

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby sahal80 » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:29 pm

Sahal let me ask you this is hassan sheikh appeasing darood when He is down selling somaliland. Isn’t that madness he is appeasing mj and marexaan if we were to hand over Mj and marexaan the lands of the Warsangali and dhulbahante they would support our recognition in a blink wax dhibaato oo kale nama dhex yaalan darood don’t care if isaaq is ruled from xamar they just oppose our border for it divides their qabil. Adiguna u agree with them for what exactly?
No it's not appeasement. Daarood Farmaajo diidan ayaa hassan sh ugu shubay in the third round laakin hadii uu cadaw ku yahay masaalixdooda waaweyn uma codeeyeen. like professor Samatar said SFG waa muqaayad laba reer waa isaga tagay mar haduu labada mid helayn. his Banaadir baan xuquuq laheen bc of Daarood what do you think of SL? even hamza will be against him if he supports Somaliland. SL has 1 option wich is what the TPLF is seeking to work from inside, Change the govt like Eritrea did before and make an alliance with one reer. if you wanna let harti join PL or have an influence on your dirty waqooyi to back hawiye political elites laakin intaad banaanka ka taagan tihiin ma dhaceyso cid idin la safata at the expanse of their own interests. what SL think is that the south will be unstable forever so they can sell their stability to the world to get recognition this is pure delusion. today SNA without Amisom is fighting Al shabaab in Hiiraan and is heading to Ceelbuur without Ethiopia like last time bc Al shabaab is finish their numbers have decreased the youth have changed bc of social media.

the other opotion miiska HAG uu idiin saaranyahay waana in hal wadan la wadaago oo wax yar ka dhaxeeyaan sida difaaca iyi lacagta laakin labo xukuumad la kala yahay sida dalal badan.

Hawiyahaan idin marabaan waxay rabaan in wax la isla cuno ha ku furina "final fileska" inta kale iska wata UAE la shaqeysta wax walbe wey idiin saxiixi bas aduunka ay tusayaan inay heshiis idin la yihiin :lol:
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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby Isseayaanle » Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:34 pm




The union in 1960 was a polite word for annexation since the State was housed and governed from Mogadishu. If Somaliland was an equal partner what stops Djibouti being part of the Union and saying we want everything split three ways equally with Somaliland and Somalia :lol: the flag was a symbolic gesture to fight colonial powers in Somali inhabited territories not a political gesture. SL, PL and even JL all have grievances against Xamar just for different reasons and the point is to find a Xal. I am seeing a lot of outdated and heavily debunked arguments here. SL claiming they had independence first by a few days yet they pre agreed to hoist our flag and our constitution. Also PL claiming they founded Federalism as a get out clause to fight Xamar is another debunked thereom the negotiations in Mbagathi took 2 years and it was a coalition of warlords who were excluded from the TNG that came together in Kenya to add articles of federal autonomy and upgrade the existing structures of the TNG. If you look at who the signed parties were they were split by 4.5 it was not some imaginery imposed state formed by PL. There is no doubt PL is a beneficiary of a Federal Republic but Federalism was heavily supported by Ethiopia, Kenya, RRA who called themselves the South West Administration, JL headed by Barre Hiiraale and the anti Abdiqasim Hawiye warlords like Mohamed Dheere who was in Jowhar and invited AY to make a base there.
Nailed it on the head! all these events will be classed into the xisaabta dambe. Ninna xanti ma mooga. Hawiye accepted federalism for a temporary solution not long term because they dont benefit from it in anyway and they and HSM are well aware of it. With HSM building his foreign policy and fighting shabaab the status quo of somalia has its days counted. May PL and SL stay in their slumber because once HSM knocks on theirdoors with danab i hope they answer with ease.

Hawiye is the biggest obstacle to a stable Somalia, every Tom ceeb and harry knows this, even honest hawiye will admit this. We know the position of hawiye even in xamar before 1991 - hawiye has gotten fat over foreign aid donated in Somalia’s name. Just this month federal member states are complaining about a missing $9.5m donated by the UAE for the drought, hsm already stole it. I ain’t hating hawiye for taking advantage of the situation but please don’t treat us like kids, we know hawiye benefits from the status quo more than isaaq or darod (under sh shariif Somalia’s sea was sold to Kenya, that Ali mahdi Guy who was fighting caydiid allowed lots of toxic stuff to be dumped by Italian companies in exchange for money) - hawiye in the U.K. will openly admit they got rich since the fall of the Gov)


Now this isn’t only hawiye, isaaq major businesses get away with not paying any tax and shutting down competition. You got few businessmen who control SL- it has become a total oligarchy.


Too many cows have got fat from the current status quo and this is true - particularly for hawiye and isaaq

This is for example why biixi had such venom for farmaajo.


Say what you want about farmaajo but he was the only guy who couldn’t end this madness.
Obviously every Somali knows Hutus hate law abs and order and hate government. Look at what their current and past leaders are doing. But, what’s worse than Hutus are Isaaq and majertin who keep the status quo and give hawiye an extra advantage. Because if putland or Somaliland put their foot down or secede officially then Somalis politicians wouldn’t get threatened and can focus on their degans and not wait 30+ years.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby mahoka » Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:54 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if the hawiye politicians in Mogadishu and isaaq elite work together. The hawiye need the Somali land mp’s in Hamar and the isaaq poiticians mislead the public about seeking independence.

Why do you think the SL mp’s are always welcomed in hargeisa.

The only way SL will be recognized is with negotiations with PL, and in that case, PL will be independent too.
My friend this is very well known but since most Somalis are tribalistic in nature we don’t say anything. Everyone knows isaaq politicians work closely with HAG and that the last thing isaaq leaders want is aqoonsi- if they get aqoonsi no more isaaq masses turning blind eye to rampant corruption or loss of civil liberties “to avoid another civil war” it’s why hargeisa gov coordinated the votes of dirty waqooyi mps.

HAG elite and isaaq elites have been working together since the 1960s and the biggest losers are isaaq lol

The farmaajo presidency exposed this to many people, most isaaq political analysits wanted farmaajo to return since he is pro China/Russia bloc (pro Ethiopia Eritrea) and this would’ve allowed SL to take the western bloc and get their support- since hsm is a hawiye who cares about money he has no geo-strategic interests and will go where the money is.


The question for the isaaq masses is how long will their tribalism allow them tolerate such traitorous leaders

This is why I’m happy we not president. Under a 100 days exposed this. I can’t :wow:

See, ain't too many like us, we like vintage Bape. And I don't fuck with busters, I can't integrate

Sxb I am happy isaaq who suck hawiye ceeb have been exposed once again. The question is will we as a qabiil wake up or not.

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

Postby Khalid Ali » Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:38 pm

Sahal let me ask you this is hassan sheikh appeasing darood when He is down selling somaliland. Isn’t that madness he is appeasing mj and marexaan if we were to hand over Mj and marexaan the lands of the Warsangali and dhulbahante they would support our recognition in a blink wax dhibaato oo kale nama dhex yaalan darood don’t care if isaaq is ruled from xamar they just oppose our border for it divides their qabil. Adiguna u agree with them for what exactly?
No it's not appeasement. Daarood Farmaajo diidan ayaa hassan sh ugu shubay in the third round laakin hadii uu cadaw ku yahay masaalixdooda waaweyn uma codeeyeen. like professor Samatar said SFG waa muqaayad laba reer waa isaga tagay mar haduu labada mid helayn. his Banaadir baan xuquuq laheen bc of Daarood what do you think of SL? even hamza will be against him if he supports Somaliland. SL has 1 option wich is what the TPLF is seeking to work from inside, Change the govt like Eritrea did before and make an alliance with one reer. if you wanna let harti join PL or have an influence on your dirty waqooyi to back hawiye political elites laakin intaad banaanka ka taagan tihiin ma dhaceyso cid idin la safata at the expanse of their own interests. what SL think is that the south will be unstable forever so they can sell their stability to the world to get recognition this is pure delusion. today SNA without Amisom is fighting Al shabaab in Hiiraan and is heading to Ceelbuur without Ethiopia like last time bc Al shabaab is finish their numbers have decreased the youth have changed bc of social media.

the other opotion miiska HAG uu idiin saaranyahay waana in hal wadan la wadaago oo wax yar ka dhaxeeyaan sida difaaca iyi lacagta laakin labo xukuumad la kala yahay sida dalal badan.

Hawiyahaan idin marabaan waxay rabaan in wax la isla cuno ha ku furina "final fileska" inta kale iska wata UAE la shaqeysta wax walbe wey idiin saxiixi bas aduunka ay tusayaan inay heshiis idin la yihiin :lol:


I think this is even more confusing so ur saying hassan is appeasing kablalax Ogaden and mj. Because of failmaajo but failmaajo is gone what does Hasan sheikh gain from appeasing them He is the president of the bunker is he worried about 2026. I don’t get it just because he got the votes he can screw them now maxay ka qaadi karan.

By the way hamza wouldn’t be anti Somaliland I don’t think he would Ogaden of Kenya and Ethiopia aren’t anti somaliland like reer muqdishu. Ina cagjar has visited somaliland over three times
Barre ilayaas is an open advocator for somaliland
So is farax macalim


Sahal as for final fileksa u need to adresss it one way or the other can’t prostpone it for ever how long has it been since the talks started ten years ago I know ur strategy is to stall but one way or the other u have to create a final constitution and then u will
Hit a brick walll which is how are u gonne address the somaliland case u will be on controversial position if you put the constitution to a vote well the vote won’t be held in somaliland so that will make the conditions null and void for at least Somaliland there is no sharci then for u to claim somaliland because ur whole new constitution hasn’t been voted on. In a whole region u claim that is part of u. Cuntadan aaad ka sheekeneysan iska joojiya oo arimaha ka hadla muhiim ka ah

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Re: Hsm “we won’t allow SL independence”

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