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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby noer » Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:54 pm

Offcourse cagdheer are weak they are either Kenyan condoms or Ethiopian condoms

Iidoorow nobody takes your stupid mission in Nairobi very seriously continue making a joke out of yourself. The only thing you got going is the Chinese colony of Taiwan. As long as Ogaden continues influencing Kenya & Ethiopia your fake clan state won’t get recognized.

Continue with the colonial Hajj :ducktales:

if ur right, then idoor is doing colonial hajj for england while u make colonial hajj to the england's slave. kenya

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jahil cagder. niggas can't even spell their name right on their poster calling for colonization by england's colony of kenya. wtf is jubb land people? :notsure: idoor gonna have to colonize more territories from cagder\

bashe19. the stealth cagderlander. stop pretending to be marehan when you atack sland

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Gubbet » Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:35 am

Adan Barre Ducaale has shown an interesting divergence with his former stances after the death of Yusuf Haji and his clash with Uhuru. Even his comments about Farmaajo government started taking on the rosy view he held at first. It will be interesting to see where he takes Kenya's Defense Ministry, but between his changed behavior and the fact he is not the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government (Lawyer Ahmednassir is) makes it necessary for us to see and wait before rushing to conclusion.

For those who would disagree with my opinion concerning power; recall Ruto was named to Vice Presidency while essentially not only estranged from power but also at war with President Uhuru. Kenya is a true executive/presidential system. Ahmed Naasir as the "Karl Rove" to Ruto is the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government even if Ducaale is the most powerful currently existing Somali politician in Kenya. The difference is the degree of influence over Ruto.

With regards to late Yusuf Haji; by seniority and track record he was the most powerful Somali politician in Kenya while alive. Kenya Somali politicians have a deferrential in group relationship in opposition to being a beleaguered, small, otherized group as a whole historically more marginalized than with power. Ducaale's change following the death of Haji could be an expression of his more authentic perspective asserting itself after it might have been blocked or regulated in deference to Haji.

One interesting note; Haji was Abdalle...Ducaale is Abudwaq. They are both Tolamoge. Mohamed Subeer and Awlyahan are in comparison Baahale. These guys, however, have historically related to each other in disregard for the uterine alliances.

Essentially, Abudwaq and Awlyahan have had an alliance against M. Subeer, and Abdalle and M. Subeer have had an alliance predicated on facing Abudwaq.

In the history of Ogaden on the Tana River, Abudwaq and Mohamed Subeer have never had any love for each other. Abudwaq for instance killed two generations of M. Subeer's chiefs from Magan family.

Yusuf Haji the Abdalla expressed his heavy interference in Kismaayo from that perspective along with re-expanding access for Abdalla in masalani to Badhaadhe by repatriating M Subeer interest and involvement back across the border to Afmadoow. It was not all love and roses, but cold hard political calculations in-group.

We now have once again coming into the Kenyan parliament as the strongest Somali personality in Kenya, Farah Macalin the Awlyahan, taking the key Somali cabinet position A Barre Ducale the Abudwaq, and serving as the "brains" to Ruto as his "Karl Rove" Lawyer Ahmednasir.

I am not seeing what pro-Madoobe are seeing, but we will find out in due time.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby ReturnOfMariixmaan » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:01 am

Adan Barre Ducaale has shown an interesting divergence with his former stances after the death of Yusuf Haji and his clash with Uhuru. Even his comments about Farmaajo government started taking on the rosy view he held at first. It will be interesting to see where he takes Kenya's Defense Ministry, but between his changed behavior and the fact he is not the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government (Lawyer Ahmednassir is) makes it necessary for us to see and wait before rushing to conclusion.

For those who would disagree with my opinion concerning power; recall Ruto was named to Vice Presidency while essentially not only estranged from power but also at war with President Uhuru. Kenya is a true executive/presidential system. Ahmed Naasir as the "Karl Rove" to Ruto is the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government even if Ducaale is the most powerful currently existing Somali politician in Kenya. The difference is the degree of influence over Ruto.

With regards to late Yusuf Haji; by seniority and track record he was the most powerful Somali politician in Kenya while alive. Kenya Somali politicians have a deferrential in group relationship in opposition to being a beleaguered, small, otherized group as a whole historically more marginalized than with power. Ducaale's change following the death of Haji could be an expression of his more authentic perspective asserting itself after it might have been blocked or regulated in deference to Haji.

One interesting note; Haji was Abdalle...Ducaale is Abudwaq. They are both Tolamoge. Mohamed Subeer and Awlyahan are in comparison Baahale. These guys, however, have historically related to each other in disregard for the uterine alliances.

Essentially, Abudwaq and Awlyahan have had an alliance against M. Subeer, and Abdalle and M. Subeer have had an alliance predicated on facing Abudwaq.

In the history of Ogaden on the Tana River, Abudwaq and Mohamed Subeer have never had any love for each other. Abudwaq for instance killed two generations of M. Subeer's chiefs from Magan family.

Yusuf Haji the Abdalla expressed his heavy interference in Kismaayo from that perspective along with re-expanding access for Abdalla in masalani to Badhaadhe by repatriating M Subeer interest and involvement back across the border to Afmadoow. It was not all love and roses, but cold hard political calculations in-group.

We now have once again coming into the Kenyan parliament as the strongest Somali personality in Kenya, Farah Macalin the Awlyahan, taking the key Somali cabinet position A Barre Ducale the Abudwaq, and serving as the "brains" to Ruto as his "Karl Rove" Lawyer Ahmednasir.

I am not seeing what pro-Madoobe are seeing, but we will find out in due time.

Exactly that’s why they pups in this game. Grand Mullah got him elected 🥂


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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Dawlad Qule » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:01 am

Why the stress and long winded atricles? Relax!
Is this about the boogie man axmed madobe?
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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Dawlad Qule » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:19 am

General Noor Gabow poised to take over kenya police force,he is now second in command.Was head of security for the elections.He is rising star!


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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Rebelxx222 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:07 am

Adan Barre Ducaale has shown an interesting divergence with his former stances after the death of Yusuf Haji and his clash with Uhuru. Even his comments about Farmaajo government started taking on the rosy view he held at first. It will be interesting to see where he takes Kenya's Defense Ministry, but between his changed behavior and the fact he is not the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government (Lawyer Ahmednassir is) makes it necessary for us to see and wait before rushing to conclusion.

For those who would disagree with my opinion concerning power; recall Ruto was named to Vice Presidency while essentially not only estranged from power but also at war with President Uhuru. Kenya is a true executive/presidential system. Ahmed Naasir as the "Karl Rove" to Ruto is the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government even if Ducaale is the most powerful currently existing Somali politician in Kenya. The difference is the degree of influence over Ruto.

With regards to late Yusuf Haji; by seniority and track record he was the most powerful Somali politician in Kenya while alive. Kenya Somali politicians have a deferrential in group relationship in opposition to being a beleaguered, small, otherized group as a whole historically more marginalized than with power. Ducaale's change following the death of Haji could be an expression of his more authentic perspective asserting itself after it might have been blocked or regulated in deference to Haji.

One interesting note; Haji was Abdalle...Ducaale is Abudwaq. They are both Tolamoge. Mohamed Subeer and Awlyahan are in comparison Baahale. These guys, however, have historically related to each other in disregard for the uterine alliances.

Essentially, Abudwaq and Awlyahan have had an alliance against M. Subeer, and Abdalle and M. Subeer have had an alliance predicated on facing Abudwaq.

In the history of Ogaden on the Tana River, Abudwaq and Mohamed Subeer have never had any love for each other. Abudwaq for instance killed two generations of M. Subeer's chiefs from Magan family.

Yusuf Haji the Abdalla expressed his heavy interference in Kismaayo from that perspective along with re-expanding access for Abdalla in masalani to Badhaadhe by repatriating M Subeer interest and involvement back across the border to Afmadoow. It was not all love and roses, but cold hard political calculations in-group.

We now have once again coming into the Kenyan parliament as the strongest Somali personality in Kenya, Farah Macalin the Awlyahan, taking the key Somali cabinet position A Barre Ducale the Abudwaq, and serving as the "brains" to Ruto as his "Karl Rove" Lawyer Ahmednasir.

I am not seeing what pro-Madoobe are seeing, but we will find out in due time.

When did you come out of hiding? You told us Farmaajo was going to win in round 1 of the elections. You told us Madoobe was going to be arrested by Ethiopian soldiers, you told us Gedo warlords were going to rule Jubbaland. You told us Bu’aale was going to be liberated by Ethiopians, you told us Ogaden can’t become PM of Somalia, you told us N&N was here to stay until 2030 hahaha
Come on now! Who are you kidding?. Do you seriously believe AhmedNasirlaw is more powerful than duale? Ahmednasir is only a lawyer used by corrupt Kenyan officials who he makes money off in getting their court case dismissed. Ruto’s cabinet includes all his close deep state allies and duale was number 1 on the list. Even if you perceive AhmedNasir as your friend which I don’t blame you clueless N&N retards then Kenya’s policy revolves around Ogadens. Ogaden is the only Somali tribe in Kenya that has the ability to not only lead the country but to also have geopolitical influences as seen in Jubaland, Bakool & DDS

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Gubbet » Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:54 am

I am not interested in your purpose or rationale for taking issue with interpretation of basic facts. Contest basic analysis, do not bother with trying to impact my ability to express myself.

Yes, lawyer Ahmednasir is more powerful than Ducaale. Ahmednasir is arguably the 2nd most powerful man in Kenya today given his influence over Ruto. GM made Ruto's candidacy, he made his election, and he made his win including his defense.

This Grand Mullah the day Ruto was announcing his election win, behind the stage.



This was GM at his inauguration



This was GM couple days ago



On the same day, he was retweeting



The least of what Ahmednasir is concerns being the most powerful "Somali" in Kenyan politics right now. The question applicable to his influence right now concerns Kenya as a whole.

And he disapproves, despises, even loathes Madoobe especially and the Kenya's role in Somalia under Uhuru.

So yes, I would reiterate I do not see what Madoobe people see and would wait before rushing to conclusion.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Gubbet » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:06 am

Btw, I would not be surprised if DawladQule is actually Mahad Salaad type background person. I noticed along with Caytame et al experience, there seems to be an odd usage of the Ogadeni card as a foil by some when they perceive themselves in a less advantageous moment vis-a-vis relationship w/ a particular community.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Dawlad Qule » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:17 am

What a delusional human you are,so let me get this straight farah moalim will deliver for you what your clan could not? Farah moim will deliver for you what farmajo with the backing of villa somalia and adis ababa could not?..You are also hinting that duale is working on your behalf? And now some unknown lawyer is the promised messiah?
Another quetion,why does us celebrating duales apointed position bother you?.Why not make things happen for yourself? Why the hatred,the animosity the ciil the xaasidnimo?

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby TheOgadenAAR » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:23 am

Adan Barre Ducaale has shown an interesting divergence with his former stances after the death of Yusuf Haji and his clash with Uhuru. Even his comments about Farmaajo government started taking on the rosy view he held at first. It will be interesting to see where he takes Kenya's Defense Ministry, but between his changed behavior and the fact he is not the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government (Lawyer Ahmednassir is) makes it necessary for us to see and wait before rushing to conclusion.

For those who would disagree with my opinion concerning power; recall Ruto was named to Vice Presidency while essentially not only estranged from power but also at war with President Uhuru. Kenya is a true executive/presidential system. Ahmed Naasir as the "Karl Rove" to Ruto is the most powerful Somali in the Ruto government even if Ducaale is the most powerful currently existing Somali politician in Kenya. The difference is the degree of influence over Ruto.

With regards to late Yusuf Haji; by seniority and track record he was the most powerful Somali politician in Kenya while alive. Kenya Somali politicians have a deferrential in group relationship in opposition to being a beleaguered, small, otherized group as a whole historically more marginalized than with power. Ducaale's change following the death of Haji could be an expression of his more authentic perspective asserting itself after it might have been blocked or regulated in deference to Haji.

One interesting note; Haji was Abdalle...Ducaale is Abudwaq. They are both Tolamoge. Mohamed Subeer and Awlyahan are in comparison Baahale. These guys, however, have historically related to each other in disregard for the uterine alliances.

Essentially, Abudwaq and Awlyahan have had an alliance against M. Subeer, and Abdalle and M. Subeer have had an alliance predicated on facing Abudwaq.

In the history of Ogaden on the Tana River, Abudwaq and Mohamed Subeer have never had any love for each other. Abudwaq for instance killed two generations of M. Subeer's chiefs from Magan family.

Yusuf Haji the Abdalla expressed his heavy interference in Kismaayo from that perspective along with re-expanding access for Abdalla in masalani to Badhaadhe by repatriating M Subeer interest and involvement back across the border to Afmadoow. It was not all love and roses, but cold hard political calculations in-group.

We now have once again coming into the Kenyan parliament as the strongest Somali personality in Kenya, Farah Macalin the Awlyahan, taking the key Somali cabinet position A Barre Ducale the Abudwaq, and serving as the "brains" to Ruto as his "Karl Rove" Lawyer Ahmednasir.

I am not seeing what pro-Madoobe are seeing, but we will find out in due time.
First of all, there's no ogaden clan called abudwaq. Secondly, you are telling us what you would hope would happen, just like you've been doing all your snet career? Remember when you said ogaden and marehan will rotate power every 20 days in kismaayo in 2012? That was gold! :lol:
Third, why should anyone take you serious when you have gotten all your predictions wrong? I am surprised to see you still writing essays, even after your adeer lost badly. You spent the last 10 years peddling false narratives and wishful thinkings, and none of any of the gazillion wishes/predictions you make came to pass.

Ogaden's grip on JL, including your home turf Gedo, will only get stronger. That's the stubborn reality that's here to stay, and that's the thing with reality, it won't go away just because you don't like it. The sooner you come to terms with that, the better.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby TheOgadenAAR » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:26 am

What a delusional human you are,so let me get this straight farah moalim will deliver for you what your clan could not? Farah moim will deliver for you what farmajo with the backing of villa somalia and adis ababa could not?..You are also hinting that duale is working on your behalf? And now some unknown lawyer is the promised messiah?
Another quetion,why does us celebrating duales apointed position bother you?.Why not make things happen for yourself? Why the hatred,the animosity the ciil the xaasidnimo?
He's telling us what he wish would happen. That's it.
Let him daydream like he's been doing the last 10+ years.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Dawlad Qule » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:35 am

What a delusional human you are,so let me get this straight farah moalim will deliver for you what your clan could not? Farah moim will deliver for you what farmajo with the backing of villa somalia and adis ababa could not?..You are also hinting that duale is working on your behalf? And now some unknown lawyer is the promised messiah?
Another quetion,why does us celebrating duales apointed position bother you?.Why not make things happen for yourself? Why the hatred,the animosity the ciil the xaasidnimo?
He's telling us what he wish would happen. That's it.
Let him daydream like he's been doing the last 10+ years.
Went back little to see what he is like,alot of weird fortune telling that now seems to have fallen on its face.Like reverse Nastradamus.Still don't understand why us celebrating triggered him.I did not mention his comunity at all.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby TheOgadenAAR » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:41 am

What a delusional human you are,so let me get this straight farah moalim will deliver for you what your clan could not? Farah moim will deliver for you what farmajo with the backing of villa somalia and adis ababa could not?..You are also hinting that duale is working on your behalf? And now some unknown lawyer is the promised messiah?
Another quetion,why does us celebrating duales apointed position bother you?.Why not make things happen for yourself? Why the hatred,the animosity the ciil the xaasidnimo?
He's telling us what he wish would happen. That's it.
Let him daydream like he's been doing the last 10+ years.
Went back little to see what he is like,alot of weird fortune telling that now seems to have fallen on its face.Like reverse Nastradamus.Still don't understand why us celebrating triggered him.I did not mention his comunity at all.
One word, resentment! He's been predicting the demise of house of Absame since 2012. In 2013 when barre hiraale was karbashed and removed out of Kismayo, this fella came on here and said there was a power sharing agreement between ogaden and marehan. The agreement? 20 day presidential rotation. lmao! :lol: Just wild!

Since then, he's made many different accounts, spreading fake news and doctored maps. In short, dude is either batshit crazy or he's been broken by the resurgence of house ogaden at the expense of his small clan.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Gubbet » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:44 am

I am not triggered. I shared my thoughts about the subject. With that said, I can see this is turning into an ego driven confrontation which I would kindly request your excuse. Good day Gentlemen.

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Re: Adan Barre Duale is nominated minister of Defense Jugta Culus Bu’aale

Postby Dawlad Qule » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:00 am



He's telling us what he wish would happen. That's it.
Let him daydream like he's been doing the last 10+ years.
Went back little to see what he is like,alot of weird fortune telling that now seems to have fallen on its face.Like reverse Nastradamus.Still don't understand why us celebrating triggered him.I did not mention his comunity at all.
One word, resentment! He's been predicting the demise of house of Absame since 2012. In 2013 when barre hiraale was karbashed and removed out of Kismayo, this fella came on here and said there was a power sharing agreement between ogaden and marehan. The agreement? 20 day presidential rotation. lmao! :lol: Just wild!

Since then, he's made many different accounts, spreading fake news and doctored maps. In short, dude is either batshit crazy or he's been broken by the resurgence of house ogaden at the expense of his small clan.
The long Essay about fantasy divisions among the Ogaden told me everything i needed to know.Very delusional and hateful.


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