Shabaab will never be defeated If you don’t control the rural population

[Isseayaanle]

What’s up with the HAG agenda to try and Irir Samaalinize Jubbaland



come on Sahal I thought you were smarter than that

The reason why Al- Shabab are stronger in Jubooyinka than Hiiraan is because they have been there longer than the other regions.

You said Ogaden only live in Badhaadhe & Afmadow. Okay then what happened to Bu’aale,Dhoobley, Xagar,Salagle, Baardheere, half of Ceelwaaq & Saakow. Even areas west of Jilib like Hargeia Yareey are Ogaden majority.

Another false lie you’ve claimed is by saying Gaaljecls and Cawrmale make up the majority in the countryside. The only clan that I can recognize is Cawrmale because yes they live in Baalgude & share it with Maxamed zubeer tribe west of kismayo also Dalsan & Bilicsan which is Maxamed zuber stronghold. To the north of Kismayo before reaching Jamaame lies Buulo Bartire and many Absame villages such as Baar Maxamuud which was established by the Maxamuud Dudub subclan of MZ. Towards Afmadow lies villages such as Beerxaani which has or in the process of being Ogadenized. Sac mooja which is just outside the city, there you reach Saato, Lafaha Hartiga now called Lafaha Ragga it’s where the infamous battle happened between Absame and Harti took place limiting the Harti tribe to kismayo district.

Ogaden has been the backbone of the countryside in the region and now their growth is being noticed within the city of kismayo. Many Ogaden subclans like the Maxamed zubeer, Cawlyahan, Maqabul,Tolomoge all have their respective districts within the city limits. Many Ogaden businesses have been opened as a result of the geo national market opened to Ogaden investors from Jigjiga to Lamu and beyond. Kismayo chapter is over next comes Jilib.

@Sahal don’t bring up the Geeljecl, Cawrmaleh shurunshur nonsense Cawrmale are practically now Maxamed zuber

Even though I hate Slave Cagdheers, this is the only reason I support them having Jubbland over Mareexan who are retarded and will allow HUTUS to settle in Jubbaland.

[sahal80]

Look at this disinformation........Harti have been in Jubba Hoose for over 150 years.

Our numbers have fluctuated since the civil war and we suffered terribly under Hag/ Mx moryaan alliance.

Gaajecel have no problem with us........their problem is with xw expansion in Hiiraan. Their own media even say this.

USC maxay u qabsatey Kismaayo 91kii laakin waqooyiga Gaalkacyo looga saarey? USC HG in waqooyiga Gaalkacyo daarood dhanbaa isugu tagay mj, mx, dhulbahane leelkase kismaayana waxay ahaayeen HG iyo XL 80% its bc North Mudug waa deegaan fully Daarood ah. USC Darood Kismaayo kama saarin for 3 years waxaa kala wareegay UNSOM1 waxaa ku xigay HG iyo XL oo is dagaalay Kismaayuu ka biloowdey dagaalkooda ka hor Xamar. Markii Kismaayo countryysideka la gaarey qabiiladii la hartiyeeyay kurti USC ay ku biireen sida Cawramaleh. my point sxb is dhulkaan ruralkiisa waa mixed dhinac kaste la mid maaha qabiilada aan isku darsaneen ee Gobolada dhexe saa darteed waa adagtahay in tajribada only ciidamada deegaanka backed by SNA ka hirgasho jubooyinka. hala simin Hiiraan oo hal dhinac oo beesha dhexe u raran inta soo harteyna waa jijeele oo ah their proxy militias iyo Gaaljecel ooy ku hareen Al Shabaab beesha kale waa HG oo magaalada matabaan degta.

[Rebelxx222]

Are you talking about Caanonuug? He was put into office not because of his clan but rather because he is a close ally to Madoobe. Madoobe rewards anyone that works with him. Damul Jadiid betrayed Caano Nuug so I think he’s going to stay around much longer than Fartaag & Co

Where in my post did I even compare Hiiraan to the Jubbas. All I said was that liberating Hiiraan is much easier than liberating the operational base of Qushaash. I don’t know why you are taking it the wrong way.

dude are you even talking about the same Gaaljecls that were defeated by Eelay Shanta Caleemood jareers in Wanlaweyn? Hag needs to find another “Hawiye” clan to use for bait lool. The Jubbas has been or in the process of being Ogaden land. As long as Jilib is liberated I am satisfied

[MrSinister]

Sahal is right there is no comparison between HIiraan and Jubbaland. Jubbaland is way more diverse, I doubt Absame make up in 10 % of the population in Jubbbland.

If they had the numbers, they wouldn’t be holed up in Kismayo with kdf protection. They would have their local populations fighting and clearing shabab like macawiisley.

Instead Madobe is playing the fighting terrorism game for donor aid and likely wants to extend kdf troops in Kismayo for as long as possible.

[Rebelxx222]

Jubooyinka is diverse but Hiiraan only belongs to Hawadle tribe is that right?

SAHAL pushing the Hag card when his own region was attacked from another Hawiye region

[MrSinister]

Jubooyinka is diverse but Hiiraan only belongs to Hawadle tribe is that right?

SAHAL pushing the Hag card when his own region was attacked from another Hawiye region

Might is right in Somalia. They were able to fight shabab with nothing more than their macawiis and ak’s.

[Rebelxx222]

Sahal is right there is no comparison between HIiraan and Jubbaland. Jubbaland is way more diverse, I doubt Absame make up in 10 % of the population in Jubbbland.

If they had the numbers, they wouldn’t be holed up in Kismayo with kdf protection. They would have their local populations fighting and clearing shabab like macawiisley.

Instead Madobe is playing the fighting terrorism game for donor aid and likely wants to extend kdf troops in Kismayo for as long as possible.

So Absame is now considered an administration?
I agree with the arming of Macawisley militas but only Ogaden. But you know Madoobe is superstitious and doesn’t want future armed opposition. Everything passes through him. I think the guy is building an empire to say the least. It’s quite smart tbh. Get funding from the foreigners and take your time controlling the political scene while preparing for a major offensive. How do you think he’s managed to survive this long? By being stupid and going for the ultimate kill with his back naked! Jubbaland will fight Al-Shabab completely when all the odds are in their favor and the cards are stacked right. Just look yesterday in Booco with the mouse & cat game offensive against Shabab. Or the one in Gedo with the Carrocasse case

If Puntland did not help us politically we would’ve just made Calanley another Ogaden neighborhood. At the moment it’s 40% Ogaden mostly Cawlyahan

[Rebelxx222]

Even though I hate Slave Cagdheers, this is the only reason I support them having Jubbland over Mareexan who are retarded and will allow HUTUS to settle in Jubbaland.

Who are you calling slave Faggot? The new generation of Ogadens do not give a flipping fuck about Darood. Absame interests always comes first that’s why we have a lot of haters especially Darood’s!

[Khalid Ali]

Even though I hate Slave Cagdheers, this is the only reason I support them having Jubbland over Mareexan who are retarded and will allow HUTUS to settle in Jubbaland.

Who are you calling slave Faggot? The new generation of Ogadens do not give a flipping fuck about Darood. Absame interests always comes first that’s why we have a lot of haters especially Darood’s!

U guys are there most darood centric so how come u hate somaliland and u are anti Somaliland if it isn’t for some great darood nationalisms

[Rebelxx222]

Even though I hate Slave Cagdheers, this is the only reason I support them having Jubbland over Mareexan who are retarded and will allow HUTUS to settle in Jubbaland.

Who are you calling slave Faggot? The new generation of Ogadens do not give a flipping fuck about Darood. Absame interests always comes first that’s why we have a lot of haters especially Darood’s!

U guys are there most darood centric so how come u hate somaliland and u are anti Somaliland if it isn’t for some great darood nationalisms

Not legitimizing the SNM regime does not mean that we hate Somaliland. Somaliland infact is our 2nd home and we have intermarried with the many tribes living there for centuries. Our feud is only with the criminal SNM organization and not the people of northern Somalia.

[sahal80]

Are you talking about Caanonuug? He was put into office not because of his clan but rather because he is a close ally to Madoobe. Madoobe rewards anyone that works with him. Damul Jadiid betrayed Caano Nuug so I think he’s going to stay around much longer than Fartaag & Co

Where in my post did I even compare Hiiraan to the Jubbas. All I said was that liberating Hiiraan is much easier than liberating the operational base of Qushaash. I don’t know why you are taking it the wrong way.

dude are you even talking about the same Gaaljecls that were defeated by Eelay Shanta Caleemood jareers in Wanlaweyn? Hag needs to find another “Hawiye” clan to use for bait lool. The Jubbas has been or in the process of being Ogaden land. As long as Jilib is liberated I am satisfied

Caananuug represents .5 in JL. in shirkii carte Hawiye refused to share their seats with Ajuuran, Degodia ahd Garjante who r saransoor and even Gaaljecel were added to Gugundhabe(baadicade&Jijeele in Somalia) but after resistance they got their own seats. every time JL candidate for deputy speaker will stay Saransoor bc jareer have hirshabelle and Carab Salah PL and madhibaan Galmudug. garjante had xildhibaan from JL before.

Sahal is right there is no comparison between HIiraan and Jubbaland. Jubbaland is way more diverse, I doubt Absame make up in 10 % of the population in Jubbbland.

If they had the numbers, they wouldn’t be holed up in Kismayo with kdf protection. They would have their local populations fighting and clearing shabab like macawiisley.

Instead Madobe is playing the fighting terrorism game for donor aid and likely wants to extend kdf troops in Kismayo for as long as possible.

aniga i see JL as daarood State but population wise its a mixed region that why there is second vice president for Hawiye, Speaker could be D&M or Dir can't remember

also aniga ma aaminsani in hawiye card JL loo isticmaalo sida linkigan sheegayo waxaan aaminsanahay in maamulka madoobe lagula gorgortamo xuquuqdooda masalan he wants extension give us more parliament seats!


Ninkaan wuxuuba inkirayaa qabiiladan aadka u degan ruralka JL oo Al Shabaab hoosta ka galey waayahee orod qabo oo dhaaf Amisom basekaaga kulahaa Hiiraan nature is different
https://www.crisisgroup.org/africa/horn ... ng-somalia

[Rebelxx222]

[quote=Rebelxx222 post_id=5029111 time=1664542387er

also aniga ma aaminsani in hawiye card JL loo isticmaalo sida linkigan sheegayo waxaan aaminsanahay in maamulka madoobe lagula gorgortamo xuquuqdooda masalan he wants extension give us more parliament seats!


Ninkaan wuxuuba inkirayaa qabiiladan aadka u degan ruralka JL oo Al Shabaab hoosta ka galey waayahee orod qabo oo dhaaf Amisom basekaaga kulahaa Hiiraan nature is different
https://www.crisisgroup.org/africa/horn ... ng-somalia

Garjante are Gardhere Samaale they make useful political allies but many of their villages are located in Baay region near Diinsoor. I remember seeing Al- Shabab recruiting soldiers from that clan 3 years ago. As for the Sheekhaal guy he is not there because of Hawiye representation no. He’s only there to keep the Mareexaan Vice President in check. If Marehans move out of order they know they can be easily replaced with another clans that are begging to take their slots. Me personally I have no issues with Hawiye clan receiving their fair shares in the state but same attitude applies to Ogadens fair representation in
The FGS. From the Army commanders to wasiirs should be negotiated.

[MrSinister]

Sahal is right there is no comparison between HIiraan and Jubbaland. Jubbaland is way more diverse, I doubt Absame make up in 10 % of the population in Jubbbland.

If they had the numbers, they wouldn’t be holed up in Kismayo with kdf protection. They would have their local populations fighting and clearing shabab like macawiisley.

Instead Madobe is playing the fighting terrorism game for donor aid and likely wants to extend kdf troops in Kismayo for as long as possible.

So Absame is now considered an administration?
I agree with the arming of Macawisley militas but only Ogaden. But you know Madoobe is superstitious and doesn’t want future armed opposition. Everything passes through him. I think the guy is building an empire to say the least. It’s quite smart tbh. Get funding from the foreigners and take your time controlling the political scene while preparing for a major offensive. How do you think he’s managed to survive this long? By being stupid and going for the ultimate kill with his back naked! Jubbaland will fight Al-Shabab completely when all the odds are in their favor and the cards are stacked right. Just look yesterday in Booco with the mouse & cat game offensive against Shabab. Or the one in Gedo with the Carrocasse case

If Puntland did not help us politically we would’ve just made Calanley another Ogaden neighborhood. At the moment it’s 40% Ogaden mostly Cawlyahan

Madobe is a smart opportunist, no doubt about it. What happens when he leaves. HAG are your friends today, but they could easily align themselves with marexaan tommorow. Jubbaland is powder keg waiting to explode.

The only way Jubbaland becomes a legitimate administration is with real power sharing and reconciliation between clans.

[Rebelxx222]

Sahal is right there is no comparison between HIiraan and Jubbaland. Jubbaland is way more diverse, I doubt Absame make up in 10 % of the population in Jubbbland.

If they had the numbers, they wouldn’t be holed up in Kismayo with kdf protection. They would have their local populations fighting and clearing shabab like macawiisley.

Instead Madobe is playing the fighting terrorism game for donor aid and likely wants to extend kdf troops in Kismayo for as long as possible.

So Absame is now considered an administration?
I agree with the arming of Macawisley militas but only Ogaden. But you know Madoobe is superstitious and doesn’t want future armed opposition. Everything passes through him. I think the guy is building an empire to say the least. It’s quite smart tbh. Get funding from the foreigners and take your time controlling the political scene while preparing for a major offensive. How do you think he’s managed to survive this long? By being stupid and going for the ultimate kill with his back naked! Jubbaland will fight Al-Shabab completely when all the odds are in their favor and the cards are stacked right. Just look yesterday in Booco with the mouse & cat game offensive against Shabab. Or the one in Gedo with the Carrocasse case

If Puntland did not help us politically we would’ve just made Calanley another Ogaden neighborhood. At the moment it’s 40% Ogaden mostly Cawlyahan

Madobe is a smart opportunist, no doubt about it. What happens when he leaves. HAG are your friends today, but they could easily align themselves with marexaan tommorow. Jubbaland is powder keg waiting to explode.

The only way Jubbaland becomes a legitimate administration is with real power sharing and reconciliation between clans.

Do you think thousands of Ogaden soldiers are being trained so that we can just pack our bags and call it quits? Who cares if Hag allies with Mx they have done it for 15 years straight with little results to show for. Ogaden is the real dealbreaker in the region and they should accept that sooner or later.

I agree Jubbaland needs proper power sharing agreement. Harti shouldn’t even be getting 7 seats in the parliament that’s far too generous.

[Kees70]

So Absame is now considered an administration?
I agree with the arming of Macawisley militas but only Ogaden. But you know Madoobe is superstitious and doesn’t want future armed opposition. Everything passes through him. I think the guy is building an empire to say the least. It’s quite smart tbh. Get funding from the foreigners and take your time controlling the political scene while preparing for a major offensive. How do you think he’s managed to survive this long? By being stupid and going for the ultimate kill with his back naked! Jubbaland will fight Al-Shabab completely when all the odds are in their favor and the cards are stacked right. Just look yesterday in Booco with the mouse & cat game offensive against Shabab. Or the one in Gedo with the Carrocasse case

If Puntland did not help us politically we would’ve just made Calanley another Ogaden neighborhood. At the moment it’s 40% Ogaden mostly Cawlyahan

Madobe is a smart opportunist, no doubt about it. What happens when he leaves. HAG are your friends today, but they could easily align themselves with marexaan tommorow. Jubbaland is powder keg waiting to explode.

The only way Jubbaland becomes a legitimate administration is with real power sharing and reconciliation between clans.

Do you think thousands of Ogaden soldiers are being trained so that we can just pack our bags and call it quits? Who cares if Hag allies with Mx they have done it for 15 years straight with little results to show for. Ogaden is the real dealbreaker in the region and they should accept that sooner or later.

I agree Jubbaland needs proper power sharing agreement. Harti shouldn’t even be getting 7 seats in the parliament that’s far too generous.

Every Somalis knows what will happen to ogadens the moment KDF army leaves in Jubaland, the best ogadens can do before that troublesome future happens is to start an fair power-sharing with the Hawiyes before the sin of the past catches up again in Kismayo, as we all know that Kenyan army won't be here forever to protect.


“History is not the past but a map of the past, drawn from a particular point of view, to be useful to the modern traveler.''

Low and behold the historical past of Jubaland: