Young Marehan & Majerten (<45) should actively reorient the destructive relationship inherited from selfish elders.

[Gubbet]

My topic title says it all.

This has nothing to do with either or both our relationships with any other single group or groups of others. Those relationships concern the group or groups we have those relationships with.

But regarding our own relationship, contact, or interaction with us two group of peoples, I have long been developing both the motivation and the realization it is long past the time to reassess and reform the relationship.

We inherited a petty, egotistical, selfish, and destructive relationship grounded in the absolute failure of our elders to give us a better heirloom.

If even 1 single MR or MJ reads this and is effected for the positive, this statement of purpose would have been worth it.

Be better than our elders were and do your own individual part to deconstruct and overcome the single most dysfunctional and even most infamously caricatured bad faith relationship between any two single sub-clans in the entire Somali galaxy.

I can now say I am at a place where I publicly renounce my negative inheritance in this regard. It is not something I deserved inheriting. And I refuse to continue to be powerless in the face of it and even held hostage to it.

Majerten, you are not my enemies brothers and sisters. You are a very important and valuable partner in any equity I as Marehan have ever cultivated and the historically affirming cardinal truth is, you always been ironically enough, even inspite of the dysfunctional relationship.

[Phinks]

Relationship? Your relationship with us (Darood and non-Darood alike) has always been characterised as quite jealousy, I mean this with no narcissism or ill will, truly.

After Majeerteen were brutalised by the MOD alliance and their Hawiye/Isaaq cronies, and how GLEEFUL the rest of Somalia were to see us punished, was it finally understood by us the true evil nature and face of all Somalis.

My elders didn't treat you bad, we never sent Jareer soldiers to rape MX women, we never supported HG militias in taking your lands, it's like you deliberately choose to misunderstand the crimes of your people, well, at least towards Majeerteen specifically.

I don't care about this, neither am I affected by it honestly, at the end of the day, Harti and Absame are united against you.

Perhaps you and your clansmen should be asking yourselves why? Some food for thought.

[Gubbet]

If someone offered me $1 million dollars right now and asked me to confirm you are in fact Majerten, I would have 0 confidence about my ability to be rewarded that money.
It is even scientifically probable that you may not even be any of the two identified groups and are playing devil's advocate. Why you would do that if that probability were true would be an utter degredation of all that is moral and ethical in this world.

With that said, Walaal, I have a Correction, a Clarification, and a Counsel.

1. My statement is not a personal exchange with you or any single individual. This is a General Statement and I would hope you show me the personal respect and courtesy I am due as an individual owning my truth. I would unfortunately find it selfish were anyone to impose a forceful claim of being a shareholder of the rights of address in the expression I even verbalize is under the sole ownership of my person. That is a correction about who is the subject and who is the predicate.

2. The clarification is simple. I have never killed a single human being. I have never maliciously harmed a single human being. I have not had a single individual and personal hand, decision, or contribution to anything you have mentioned attributing to me with the identification of "you." In this very accusation towards my person, you have transgressed against me as an individual, human being.

3. The counsel is poignant. I have made a personal decision to close the door on the past. I am Rer Siyaad Diini with immediate heritage from Balanbale. Forget Marehan--a big clan from Dhudub to Wajeer. Forget even Rer Diini---a big subclan from Cilaanle, few kilometers from Warder, to Baardheere. I am Rer Siyaad Diini with immediate heritage from Balanbale. SSDF and Ethiopian capture of Balanbale in 1982 directly contributed to the death and maiming of my father's extended cousins and even uncles; my grand-uncles. We were the group "within" Marehan that was disproportionately implicated in the direct effects of whatever grievances Marehan ever held against SSDF in general and even against Abdullahi Yusuf in particular. My family even. I want you to clearly internalize what I am saying and why I am saying it. If "Majerten" and "Sacad/Habar Gidir," as an example, clash between Garacad and Hobyo---the Majerten/Cali Saleban in Qandala would not necessarily be implicated directly in the general Majerten grievance. It would be Omar Mohamud and in particular Abdi Ciise that directly was affected within Majerten. The death, the injury, the material and consequential effect. I am Rer Siyaad Diini with immediate heritage from Balanbale for the 3rd time. Every Marehan would move aside and directly yield to me as the Marehan "Cabdi Ciise" in a hypothetical settling of claims in a hypothetical "gogol" between Marehan and Majerten adjudicating a settlement on that era. I am not asking for a settling of scores. I am not even asking to relitigate the past. I have moved on with forgiveness. My counsel to you is embrace a better tomorrow, because our past is Hell.

[Phinks]

Let me make this clear Gubbet, I don't have ANY personal grievance towards you or anyone, Somali or not. What I DO have a problem is, is with your elite and their manners of conducting themselves with my clansmen who wanted the best for Somaliweyne.

Secondly, I have always maintained that Somali clan problems are overstated, especially the past two decades. The very enemy we've been accusing each other of have always been within ie clan elders

You're speaking to a man who has had his own family and relatives directly tortured and raped by the Red Berets.

I do not partake in these silly games of who owns Kismayo/Xamar/Random Gobol or who did what, the fact you even doubt my authenticity on the matter has raised my concern towards your character.

Take care.

[Kees70]

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So now mx are begging mjs to restore their ties after Hawiyes abandoned them, this is what we call desperation to the max.

Voltagow carry on twerking low for the mjs, im sure they will throw some bones to your desperational plea for help.

[Gubbet]

Phinks, walaal, I carefully chose the title of my general statement describing where "I" have come to. I would like encourage you, even very briefly, take a quick opportunity as courtesy to read my title and think about it for a brief moment.

I have come to the point I am at having gone through the full gauntlet. I was where you are at.

I have made a personal decision for myself to come on the side of closure---by breaking the cycle of living through the conflict.

I have divested myself---disinherited my own inheritance even--to break the bondage held over my person commanding me to see through conflict.

My title is mission statement.

[Ghiklo]

Although you have good intentions here this wouldn't work out. We don't have many meeting points besides Doollo and Kismayo. Anyway, there is no hatred in real life besides some on Facebook. I am related to many MXs.

[Gubbet]

Kees70, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Display this post.

I am not surprised you have shown up. I am also without any interest or even curiosity about how this further feeds your general bitterness. I wish for you only liberation from unhappiness.

[Gubbet]

Although you have good intentions here this wouldn't work out. We don't have many meeting points besides Doollo and Kismayo. Anyway, there is no hatred in real life besides some on Facebook. I am related to many MXs.

Doolo grazing and Kismaayo, whether you physically live there or not, directly affects how 100% of Marehan and Majerten meet on substantial amount of socio-political equities.

You, neither I, have the control or effect to pronounce any judgement on eventualities or substantiations of it concerning outcomes. It is an expression of bad faith or lack of it to even presuppose.

I hope your individual choice on this proposition put forth reflects your embrace, or growth to embrace, a better tomorrow.

[MrSinister]

I’ve always found the online enmity between MJ and MX completely out of proportion with reality.

The day MJ and MX stop sabotaging each other politically is the day Somalia will have long lasting peace.

Nobody is saying hold hands and sing kumbaya, but think a little more critically about common interests

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

We don’t need to restore nothing. Keep applying pressure. I see the future. And I’ve been right for two years

[gobdoon]

Let me make this clear Gubbet, I don't have ANY personal grievance towards you or anyone, Somali or not. What I DO have a problem is, is with your elite and their manners of conducting themselves with my clansmen who wanted the best for Somaliweyne.

Secondly, I have always maintained that Somali clan problems are overstated, especially the past two decades. The very enemy we've been accusing each other of have always been within ie clan elders

You're speaking to a man who has had his own family and relatives directly tortured and raped by the Red Berets.

I do not partake in these silly games of who owns Kismayo/Xamar/Random Gobol or who did what, the fact you even doubt my authenticity on the matter has raised my concern towards your character.

Take care.

Nabad barwaqo iyo horumar Somali oo idil, dad yar oo war xuma tashiilka ah oo mafiyo iyo dano shaqsi leh ba lo wada afduuban yahay
Lkn wa in aynu noqono dadki inta xun dariiqoda qaadin oo negativity iyo xuman ta qayb ka geysan balse dadka wax Possative ah ku siyadiyo oo Somali nimo iyo midnimo, sharci iyo cadalad tageera

[WadaniggaBarakaysan]

You keep a son of Sade (Marehan-Sade) as united under one umbrella and at the same time you want to divide Harti-Kombe-Kablalax into sub-clans. Not only that, but you want to build a relationship with just one of the seven sub-clans of Harti. LOL

Majeerteen-Harti has nothing to gain from having any political or social relations with Marehan-Sade. In fact I should say, Kombe-Kablalax has nothing to gain from having any relationship with Marehan-Sade. LOL

[Isseayaanle]

No one whether is hawiye, idoors, Daarods RX or rest of Somalis can get along with Dabacayo. There highly treacherous and have faan thinking they better than rest of Somalis. There hutu cousins Mareexan can claim them but we southerners want nothing to do with them. Go around and their highly unpopular with shanta somaliyeed especially with us southerners. They've been partners with the British against dervish, Italians against Reer Hobyo, Mengestu against barre, Tplf against southerners and Kenya against their hutu cousins MX. There hasn't been anytime in Somalia history WHERE Dabacoys WEREN'T clapping cheeks for foreigners. NOT A SINGLE TIME BEFORE AND AFTER SOMALIA. THEY ALSO ALWAYS GET HUMILIATION AT THE END BY THE FOREIGNERS.

[Ghiklo]

No one whether is hawiye, idoors, Daarods RX or rest of Somalis can get along with Dabacayo. There highly treacherous and have faan thinking they better than rest of Somalis. There hutu cousins Mareexan can claim them but we southerners want nothing to do with them. Go around and their highly unpopular with shanta somaliyeed especially with us southerners. They've been partners with the British against dervish, Italians against Reer Hobyo, Mengestu against barre, Tplf against southerners and Kenya against their hutu cousins MX. There hasn't been anytime in Somalia history WHERE Dabacoys WEREN'T clapping cheeks for foreigners. NOT A SINGLE TIME BEFORE AND AFTER SOMALIA. THEY ALSO ALWAYS GET HUMILIATION AT THE END BY THE FOREIGNERS.

Am I supposed to believe an Eelay hates MJs this much? A true Eelay would never twerk for MXs 24/7 like you do. Who has taken Luuq, Baardheere, etc from you? Have some self-respect sxb. You're not fooling anyone.