BREAKING: TPLF & Ethiopian govt agree to a permanent ceasefire!

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

And Somalis can’t even end their own war. What a L. Let’s see how long this holds up.

[original dervish]

A beautiful window of opportunity has closed for the liberation of western Somalia.

Opportunities like this recent Ethiopian civil war appear once in a generation.

[mahor]

A beautiful window of opportunity has closed for the liberation of western Somalia.

Opportunities like this recent Ethiopian civil war appear once in a generation.

There will be another opportunity because these ppl implode every 20 years, and dont worry we will "squander" that opportunity. I dont care about attacking ethiopia anyway, but believe in peaceful coexistence with our neighbours. The somaliweyne dream is dead, make peace with that and salvage whatever scraps that is left of the carcass that is Somalia.

Regarding the topic i hope that this peace lasts, but i can see this agreement collapsing. Too much hatred and tension on either side.

[original dervish]

There can never be peaceful coexistence while they build churches and settle their people on our land.

This land is a pure Somali/ Muslim land bequeathed to us by our ancestors centuries ago.

Today we are 2nd and 3rd class citizens on our own land. Yes, we are the authors of our own misfortune and yet we hope and pray that from among us a new more honorable generation will arise.

[Gubbet]

Saddam, it is possible the HSM government estimate of "longevity" may have been overestimated when it gave him a 3 year existence.

Uhuru out at Kenya, the TPLF surrender, and the Sudanese long retreated from escalation --- they are going to body slam HSM, both as revenge for his stunts concerning Nile, but also as deterrent for quite sometime sending a clear message to Egypt whose neighborhood this is.

[Gubbet]

There can never be peaceful coexistence while they build churches and settle their people on our land.

This land is a pure Somali/ Muslim land bequeathed to us by our ancestors centuries ago.

Today we are 2nd and 3rd class citizens on our own land. Yes, we are the authors of our own misfortune and yet we hope and pray that from among us a new more honorable generation will arise.

For your unbridled, foaming at the teeth intense hatred of Darod Somalis, even finding it entirely "normal" to express satisfaction or "vindication" through expressing your hope that some Darods must have been "sodomized" or "raped " in 1991---not to mention still probably the only individual referencing Utanga refugee camps and all--- I am always strangely curious about how that's always a contrast, in such topics revolving around the far Babile faultline to Highlands, wherein the vicious human parody is brought down to a sensitive, vulnerable, fearful human being, whose need and requirement of "Somalinimo" is so acute and entirely helpless it is only matched by the magnitude displayed only by your 1993 Darod "suffering" pornocupia of your choice of passions when you do not need to "manipulate" "Somalihood" for defense.

So I always love to see your comments in Ethiopia topics.

Humans are such composites of disconnection.

[theyuusuf143]

In my opinion that won't last long. If Eritrea and fano are not committed. There are many actors in this war Ethiopian government can not control regional troops and Eritrea. TPLF have no more strength to keep fighting , they are blocked from every where . This agreement gives them hope to survive . But others are watching and they won't allow TPLF to raise again. I have no doubt that Amhara will double their efforts against Tigray.

[Gubbet]

Uhm, Yusuf, read between the lines walaal.

This is not like before which were instances of "armstice"

"Permanent ceasefire" = Conditional surrender

Surrender = TPLF has effectively ruled out coming out of this conflict with any strategic military victory. Include even ability to hold ground to a "stalemate." Essentially, only thing left is Kamikazi or basically suicide bombers. It means mindlessly and aimlessly pursuing something that will onky result in your self-destruction.

Conditional = So while there is "time" and "leverage," try to preserve some strategic POLITICAL objectives---like possibly blunting some of the post-war burden on their people ans region, reserving some rights and privileges for young assets who can cauterize some of the brain and leadership hemorrhaging of Tigray, etc etc etc. In return Abiy gets to end the war a lot earlier and with so much less sacrifice and further erosion in political capital and resources.

All in all, it shows the TPLF did not ever have a transactional or superficial relationship with their people and region. They truly were the "Tigrayan" in TPLF.

It also shows they fundamentally believe or still retain enough confidence of Abiy having redeeming ethical and moral qualities to be the "enemy" to surrender to.

[mahoka]

There can never be peaceful coexistence while they build churches and settle their people on our land.

This land is a pure Somali/ Muslim land bequeathed to us by our ancestors centuries ago.

Today we are 2nd and 3rd class citizens on our own land. Yes, we are the authors of our own misfortune and yet we hope and pray that from among us a new more honorable generation will arise.

For your unbridled, foaming at the teeth intense hatred of Darod Somalis, even finding it entirely "normal" to express satisfaction or "vindication" through expressing your hope that some Darods must have been "sodomized" or "raped " in 1991---not to mention still probably the only individual referencing Utanga refugee camps and all--- I am always strangely curious about how that's always a contrast, in such topics revolving around the far Babile faultline to Highlands, wherein the vicious human parody is brought down to a sensitive, vulnerable, fearful human being, whose need and requirement of "Somalinimo" is so acute and entirely helpless it is only matched by the magnitude displayed only by your 1993 Darod "suffering" pornocupia of your choice of passions when you do not need to "manipulate" "Somalihood" for defense.

So I always love to see your comments in Ethiopia topics.

Humans are such composites of disconnection.

I wonder why OD is anti mareexan, his dhulo tribe usually serve mareexan (I say this not as an insult but rather an observation) - farmaajo’s most loyal supporters are mx and dhulo

[Gubbet]

There can never be peaceful coexistence while they build churches and settle their people on our land.

This land is a pure Somali/ Muslim land bequeathed to us by our ancestors centuries ago.

Today we are 2nd and 3rd class citizens on our own land. Yes, we are the authors of our own misfortune and yet we hope and pray that from among us a new more honorable generation will arise.

For your unbridled, foaming at the teeth intense hatred of Darod Somalis, even finding it entirely "normal" to express satisfaction or "vindication" through expressing your hope that some Darods must have been "sodomized" or "raped " in 1991---not to mention still probably the only individual referencing Utanga refugee camps and all--- I am always strangely curious about how that's always a contrast, in such topics revolving around the far Babile faultline to Highlands, wherein the vicious human parody is brought down to a sensitive, vulnerable, fearful human being, whose need and requirement of "Somalinimo" is so acute and entirely helpless it is only matched by the magnitude displayed only by your 1993 Darod "suffering" pornocupia of your choice of passions when you do not need to "manipulate" "Somalihood" for defense.

So I always love to see your comments in Ethiopia topics.

Humans are such composites of disconnection.

I wonder why OD is anti mareexan, his dhulo tribe usually serve mareexan (I say this not as an insult but rather an observation) - farmaajo’s most loyal supporters are mx and dhulo

[Waachis]

It's sad that so many tigrayans and other ethiopians had to perish, for this to occur, but the truth is the tplf was a loyal puppet that certain powerful countries wanted to maintain and use to control ethiopia and the horn. the same powerful entities that do not want a self sufficient ethiopia and even somalia and other countries in the horn. hate abiy all you want, but he is actively working towards food production for ethiopia to be less reliant on their aid, which they've used to control ethiopia. tplf gladly served their interests in the region in exchange for loot, aid, etc, but abiy may not be as easy to make a puppet, even though he knows he does have to cooperate with them to a certain extent, at least.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Uhm, Yusuf, read between the lines walaal.

This is not like before which were instances of "armstice"

"Permanent ceasefire" = Conditional surrender

Surrender = TPLF has effectively ruled out coming out of this conflict with any strategic military victory. Include even ability to hold ground to a "stalemate." Essentially, only thing left is Kamikazi or basically suicide bombers. It means mindlessly and aimlessly pursuing something that will onky result in your self-destruction.

Conditional = So while there is "time" and "leverage," try to preserve some strategic POLITICAL objectives---like possibly blunting some of the post-war burden on their people ans region, reserving some rights and privileges for young assets who can cauterize some of the brain and leadership hemorrhaging of Tigray, etc etc etc. In return Abiy gets to end the war a lot earlier and with so much less sacrifice and further erosion in political capital and resources.

All in all, it shows the TPLF did not ever have a transactional or superficial relationship with their people and region. They truly were the "Tigrayan" in TPLF.

It also shows they fundamentally believe or still retain enough confidence of Abiy having redeeming ethical and moral qualities to be the "enemy" to surrender to.

This is why you’re Marehan:

[theyuusuf143]

@Gubet

This is the horn of Africa where tribes are more powerful than nations , Amhara wont give up the so called western Tigray . So Tigray must give up all the disputed land to Amhara , if not the Amhara have nothing to loose to keep blocking them. At this moment TPLF is nothing but exhausted and malnourished . They can't even carry their own guns they have no leverage over others what so ever. They should kneel down before Amhara and give up a large junkies of former Tigray territory.

[mahoka]

For your unbridled, foaming at the teeth intense hatred of Darod Somalis, even finding it entirely "normal" to express satisfaction or "vindication" through expressing your hope that some Darods must have been "sodomized" or "raped " in 1991---not to mention still probably the only individual referencing Utanga refugee camps and all--- I am always strangely curious about how that's always a contrast, in such topics revolving around the far Babile faultline to Highlands, wherein the vicious human parody is brought down to a sensitive, vulnerable, fearful human being, whose need and requirement of "Somalinimo" is so acute and entirely helpless it is only matched by the magnitude displayed only by your 1993 Darod "suffering" pornocupia of your choice of passions when you do not need to "manipulate" "Somalihood" for defense.

So I always love to see your comments in Ethiopia topics.

Humans are such composites of disconnection.

I wonder why OD is anti mareexan, his dhulo tribe usually serve mareexan (I say this not as an insult but rather an observation) - farmaajo’s most loyal supporters are mx and dhulo

Why are you giving me that face, everyone knows how loyal dhulo are to mx, that’s why I ask why od has no time for beesha mx

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Saddam, it is possible the HSM government estimate of "longevity" may have been overestimated when it gave him a 3 year existence.

Uhuru out at Kenya, the TPLF surrender, and the Sudanese long retreated from escalation --- they are going to body slam HSM, both as revenge for his stunts concerning Nile, but also as deterrent for quite sometime sending a clear message to Egypt whose neighborhood this is.

Very. That’s why it’s let play out. Not our concern. And I mean by that, we handling ours. We didn’t cause offense to them while they was fighting. That’s why