According to World Bank + Somali Federal Government, Abudwaq has the same population as Adado+Dusamareb+Hobyo+El Bur.

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According to World Bank + Somali Federal Government, Abudwaq has the same population as Adado+Dusamareb+Hobyo+El Bur.

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These are internal, population estimate statistics derived from contracted 3rd party professionals who are a "quality control" check on cost-estimate plans for World Bank Debt Relief work and support to Somalia.

It does not surprise anyone that Caabudwaaq is the biggest population center of Galmudug considering the pattern we have seen regarding population density and estimate numbers from recent years in central Somalia following serious improvements in UN agencies standards for information sourcing and handling in Somalia.

What does come as a surprise is just "how" big Caabudwaaq is in comparison to the rest of Galmudug urban centers.

According to the internal, non-publicized professionally sourced population statistics numbers both World Bank and Somalia are using, Caabudwaaq is the same size as Cadaado + Dusamareb + Hobyo + El Bur 'combined.'

And it has just about the same comparison of "built environment" (buildings)!

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Hada xagaad joogtaa?
Iminka waxaan joogaa anigu Jigjiga. Waxaan rabaa in Caabudwaaq tago for business purposes.
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Re: According to World Bank + Somali Federal Government, Abudwaq has the same population as Adado+Dusamareb+Hobyo+El Bur

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LeJusticier wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:53 pm Hada xagaad joogtaa?
Iminka waxaan joogaa anigu Jigjiga. Waxaan rabaa in Caabudwaaq tago for business purposes.
Sxb, although I have 0 fears anything would befall you wakhtigan xaadirka ah laakiin it would be imprudent for me not to advice you about colaad ninkii Muuse ahaa dhaliyey

Colaad waa foolxumo dadkuna waxeey ka dhigtaa wax aysan normally ahayn. Laakiin Allah knows best and you certainly can take care of yourself. Taxadar baan ku oran lahaa wakhtigan xaadirka ah.
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Re: According to World Bank + Somali Federal Government, Abudwaq has the same population as Adado+Dusamareb+Hobyo+El Bur

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Salaam sare sxb Gubbet,

War niyahow why are you so obsessed about HGs Galmudug, 24 hours it's Galmudug this and that, it doesn't matter whether you have the biggest population in Galmudug or even the biggest city, because in the end of the day this is HGs state Galmudug and you are our loyal gacanyare 3rd class citizens.

In Galmudug it's HGs first and 2nd and the rest are 3rd and 4th. :D
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Kees, HG waa walaalahay waana deriskeyga, ilaahayne baa wax iskugu keen daray. This is only information. Ha dhibsan information
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Kees70 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:36 am Salaam sare sxb Gubbet,

War niyahow why are you so obsessed about HGs Galmudug, 24 hours it's Galmudug this and that, it doesn't matter whether you have the biggest population in Galmudug or even the biggest city, because in the end of the day this is HGs state Galmudug and you are our loyal gacanyare 3rd class citizens.

In Galmudug it's HGs first and 2nd and the rest are 3rd and 4th. :D
Galnus is a HG state. Mx should have never joined it to begin with.

But things are looking interesting next 6 months there will be intra HG fight over galnus leadership.

Things will go back to pre farmaajo days for galnus.
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I am of the opinion, considering the vast disproportionality between population assumptions and the reality, that Caabudwaaq should now impose a "re-understanding about the equities involved.

Namely, now adopt the position that the Galmudug " Presidency" should be forced open for competition including even probably adopt the position that a new power sharing agreement is needed.

Remember Galmudug is not " Jubbaland." Marehan wants to control and take Kismaayo, wants to control Jubbaland. Galmudug is the inverse. Nobody really wants it and Marehan is perfectly fine having nothing to do with anything east of them just like from 1991-2015.

Marehan grazes west towards Ethiopia, its wells and equity is west towards Ethiopia, it's livestock trade is west towards Ethiopia and north towards Puntland/SSC, and it even sources produce supply chain from west in Ethiopia.

Galmudug is a dry, empty desert devoid of people. It's basic relevance as a " Federal State" is based on a technicality since it just takes up space.

All of this is strictly speaking from Caabudwaaq point of view regarding" why" they should now force or rather even " impose" a re-understanding about the equity involved.

Remember, MX the clan did not actually join Galmudug. The Sufi momentary maamul did and Marehan the clan did not find it a " harm" or even "relevant" to overrule their Sufi sons.

Also the weirdly historical and niche "Kumbaya " that briefly existed through the Sufi alliance making to fight Shabaab moving past Ceel-Buur was a counter-productive hypnosis as the majority of MX has thought in hindisight

I have believed for sometime that Galmudug would not outlive HSM II presidency, because of reasons I will not name* and thought MX will parachute out as effortlessly as it halfheartedly parachuted in, but now I think MX should impose a hegemonc claim equal to the east of the highway on its own merits for the record before this attempt at admin disintegrates.

*For a very basic hint, just think why "Galgaduud" and "Mudug" have the two least powerful offices of "Governor." Since the day such regional offices were formed, the "Governor" of Galgaduud/Mudug has been literally irrelevant. The attempt at "Galmudug" with President and centralized authority will be viewed from the future as a waste of time.
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Re: According to World Bank + Somali Federal Government, Abudwaq has the same population as Adado+Dusamareb+Hobyo+El Bur

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Gubbet wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:07 pm I am of the opinion, considering the vast disproportionality between population assumptions and the reality, that Caabudwaaq should now impose a "re-understanding about the equities involved.

Namely, now adopt the position that the Galmudug " Presidency" should be forced open for competition including even probably adopt the position that a new power sharing agreement is needed.

Remember Galmudug is not " Jubbaland." Marehan wants to control and take Kismaayo, wants to control Jubbaland. Galmudug is the inverse. Nobody really wants it and Marehan is perfectly fine having nothing to do with anything east of them just like from 1991-2015.

Marehan grazes west towards Ethiopia, its wells and equity is west towards Ethiopia, it's livestock trade is west towards Ethiopia and north towards Puntland/SSC, and it even sources produce supply chain from west in Ethiopia.

Galmudug is a dry, empty desert devoid of people. It's basic relevance as a " Federal State" is based on a technicality since it just takes up space.

All of this is strictly speaking from Caabudwaaq point of view regarding" why" they should now force or rather even " impose" a re-understanding about the equity involved.

Remember, MX the clan did not actually join Galmudug. The Sufi momentary maamul did and Marehan the clan did not find it a " harm" or even "relevant" to overrule their Sufi sons.

Also the weirdly historical and niche "Kumbaya " that briefly existed through the Sufi alliance making to fight Shabaab moving past Ceel-Buur was a counter-productive hypnosis as the majority of MX has thought in hindisight

I have believed for sometime that Galmudug would not outlive HSM II presidency, because of reasons I will not name* and thought MX will parachute out as effortlessly as it halfheartedly parachuted in, but now I think MX should impose a hegemonc claim equal to the east of the highway on its own merits for the record before this attempt at admin disintegrates.

*For a very basic hint, just think why "Galgaduud" and "Mudug" have the two least powerful offices of "Governor." Since the day such regional offices were formed, the "Governor" of Galgaduud/Mudug has been literally irrelevant. The attempt at "Galmudug" with President and centralized authority will be viewed from the future as a waste of time.
Writes "Galmudug is inverse and that nobody wants it", than proceeds to write an wall of text obsessively about Galmudugs, even writing that Galmudug should have an open competition :lol:

For someone who writes that he doesn't care about Galmudug sure does write alot about Galmudug with an loving heart.

War gubbetow, when all is said and done, Galmudug=HG, just as Israel=Jewish, Iran=Persians and Saudi Arabia=Arabs :up: :D
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Question Kees..!

Galmudug includes all of Galgaduud the region. Galgaduud includes Caabudwaaq and Balanbale.

My father is of Balanbale. Even his mother is of Balanbale. My mother is of Caabudwaaq. Even her mother is of Caabudwaaq.

So my father, and mother; all 4 of my grandparents and myself are of "Galgaduud" and therefore of "Galmudug.

Yet 95% (if not more) of all your past statements or remarks directed to me regarding Galmudug, including your 1st post in this very topic, has been to pointedly express "xigsasho" or rather "possess" Galmudug at the expense of my person. Essentially to "invest" yourself clearly and unapologetically by "dispossessing" me.

Why do you then become critically aggrieved when I then fail to impart any appreciation for it?
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Is this even surprising….the laandheer reer cabudwaaq even dominated the soccer game …reer cambuulo waa dad iska dansan
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:lol: ^
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Nomand wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:56 am
Kees70 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:36 am Salaam sare sxb Gubbet,

War niyahow why are you so obsessed about HGs Galmudug, 24 hours it's Galmudug this and that, it doesn't matter whether you have the biggest population in Galmudug or even the biggest city, because in the end of the day this is HGs state Galmudug and you are our loyal gacanyare 3rd class citizens.

In Galmudug it's HGs first and 2nd and the rest are 3rd and 4th. :D
Galnus is a HG state. Mx should have never joined it to begin with.

But things are looking interesting next 6 months there will be intra HG fight over galnus leadership.

Things will go back to pre farmaajo days for galnus.
Right anaga hg ayeeba nagu filneen galmudug usheeg mx nooga baxa mamuulka ku dheh
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FarhanYare wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:12 pm
Nomand wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:56 am
Kees70 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:36 am Salaam sare sxb Gubbet,

War niyahow why are you so obsessed about HGs Galmudug, 24 hours it's Galmudug this and that, it doesn't matter whether you have the biggest population in Galmudug or even the biggest city, because in the end of the day this is HGs state Galmudug and you are our loyal gacanyare 3rd class citizens.

In Galmudug it's HGs first and 2nd and the rest are 3rd and 4th. :D
Galnus is a HG state. Mx should have never joined it to begin with.

But things are looking interesting next 6 months there will be intra HG fight over galnus leadership.

Things will go back to pre farmaajo days for galnus.
Right anaga hg ayeeba nagu filneen galmudug usheeg mx nooga baxa mamuulka ku dheh
If you see any mx saying they are part of galnus. You have my permission to beat him up.

Any of our xoolo politicians if you see them in your towns saying they are minister or mp in galnus. Please kindly beat him up and send him to his people.
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Re: According to World Bank + Somali Federal Government, Abudwaq has the same population as Adado+Dusamareb+Hobyo+El Bur

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Nomand wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:12 am
FarhanYare wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:12 pm
Nomand wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:56 am

Galnus is a HG state. Mx should have never joined it to begin with.

But things are looking interesting next 6 months there will be intra HG fight over galnus leadership.

Things will go back to pre farmaajo days for galnus.
Right anaga hg ayeeba nagu filneen galmudug usheeg mx nooga baxa mamuulka ku dheh
If you see any mx saying they are part of galnus. You have my permission to beat him up.

Any of our xoolo politicians if you see them in your towns saying they are minister or mp in galnus. Please kindly beat him up and send him to his people.
:lol:
It's good to see your acknowledgement, but we respectfully disagree, Galmudug should welcome and use the Mx horgals like the ogadens are doing successfully with their horgals in Gedo.

Some clans are born to be Horgals and serve their better equals in obedience.
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