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Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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Ethiopian federal government vs Eritrea vs Tigray vs Amhara
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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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It really saddens me that Somalia cannot exploit this once in a generation opportunity.

The Ogaden region is there on a plate and we are too busy infighting.
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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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Brother Gubbet is regrettably currently indisposed and therefore by right of next of kin I shall give you an answer in his place.

Abiy needs nationalism to stay in the job. Remember how ever much a Tigrayan, an Oromo or an Amhara kill each other they can easily find common cause in subjugating Somalis. We should sit this one out.

We should maintain our "Cushitic" identity and ally with the Oromos federally while playing lovely dovy with the Amharas at the local level. While the Oromos try subjugate the others we'll help a handing hand if need be. Oromo nationalism is Abiy Ahmed's biggest threat and he's trying to gain Oromo support by selling the vision of an Oromo dominated East Africa instead of a simple landlocked Oromo Republic. President Mustafe Cagjar is doing a good job if you ask me.

The Amhara are not fighting for independence, they do not like ethnic federalism however much they claim to otherwise and their identity is tied with the identity of "Ethiopianism". A pseudo-religious movement where they govern Ethiopia and integrate other ethnicities under them by right of God. The Amhara war is going well for them. They've apparently got Eritrean support. Let them wipe each other out. Lacnatullahi alayk.

We should not take arms against Ethiopia until you have a united Somali consciousness or a stable Somali republic. You have the Gadabuursi Ugaas in Addis Ababa looking for support for Awdal state and on the other end of the Somali region you have those same Gadabuursi having their towns like Jinacsani getting annexed by Oromos. Today a Somali is a bigger threat to you than the average Ethiopian or the Ethiopian state is.

Oromos are not a threat we should ally with them 100%. They lived in Jubaland as recent as 150 years ago. You win some and you lose them. Those complaining about Oromos are the ones who willingly team up with them. Darod have no problem with them. Brother Gubbet made a post commenting on Marehan relations with the Oromo in Liban district and how Darod are immune to Oromo and their games. https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=409165 I'm not sure on their relations with the Ogaden but I recently saw Qalbidhagax doing a khutbah during the fighting in Babille.

Demographically Somalis are more of a threat than the other way around. We should do as the Oromo did during the TPLF era and slowly build up our cities and people. Whenever you see ethnicities in Ethiopia fighting and winning it's with resources and institutions they gained from being aligned with the Ethiopian state.
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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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The only recipe we can add to the cooking Ethiopian pot is alshabaab. In fact thousands of alshabaab fighters are already Oromo they can easily relocate to central Ethiopia.
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:30 am The only recipe we can add to the cooking Ethiopian pot is alshabaab. In fact thousands of alshabaab fighters are already Oromo they can easily relocate to central Ethiopia.
Now i convince and eccapt that Alshabab comes from Idoorian especially Jeegaanta.

Wa layga dhaadhicin waayey Alshabab ba Idoor ka yimi, maanta shaki iigama jiro kadib markan akhriyey qoutka halkan sare ee the yusuf 143.

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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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bashe19 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:26 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:30 am The only recipe we can add to the cooking Ethiopian pot is alshabaab. In fact thousands of alshabaab fighters are already Oromo they can easily relocate to central Ethiopia.
Now i convince and eccapt that Alshabab comes from Idoorian especially Jeegaanta.

Wa layga dhaadhicin waayey Alshabab ba Idoor ka yimi, maanta shaki iigama jiro kadib markan akhriyey qoutka halkan sare ee the yusuf 143.

:dj:
In politics there are no terrorists. There are two groups of alshabaab The Nationalists and the internationalists. The first group are like Taliban they just want to be in control of Somalia, we must negotiate with them. The sooner we open dialogue with them the better. The later group are international jihadis mainly from kenya and Ethiopia , these are the problem they came to kill and they don't have a sense of Somali nationalism. They must be relocated to Ethiopia or where ever they came from. And we should use them if it's necessary . Without alshabaab hand there is no way Somalis can defend themselves against Ethiopia.
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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:03 am
bashe19 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:26 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:30 am The only recipe we can add to the cooking Ethiopian pot is alshabaab. In fact thousands of alshabaab fighters are already Oromo they can easily relocate to central Ethiopia.
Now i convince and eccapt that Alshabab comes from Idoorian especially Jeegaanta.

Wa layga dhaadhicin waayey Alshabab ba Idoor ka yimi, maanta shaki iigama jiro kadib markan akhriyey qoutka halkan sare ee the yusuf 143.

:dj:
In politics there are no terrorists. There are two groups of alshabaab The Nationalists and the internationalists. The first group are like Taliban they just want to be in control of Somalia, we must negotiate with them. The sooner we open dialogue with them the better. The later group are international jihadis mainly from kenya and Ethiopia , these are the problem they came to kill and they don't have a sense of Somali nationalism. They must be relocated to Ethiopia or where ever they came from. And we should use them if it's necessary . Without alshabaab hand there is no way Somalis can defend themselves against Ethiopia.
You seem to bouncing from one war to another, one provocation to another. Have you learned nothing from the historic defeat inflicted upon your people at the battle of Goojacaade?

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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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original dervish wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:59 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:03 am
bashe19 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:26 pm

Now i convince and eccapt that Alshabab comes from Idoorian especially Jeegaanta.

Wa layga dhaadhicin waayey Alshabab ba Idoor ka yimi, maanta shaki iigama jiro kadib markan akhriyey qoutka halkan sare ee the yusuf 143.

:dj:
In politics there are no terrorists. There are two groups of alshabaab The Nationalists and the internationalists. The first group are like Taliban they just want to be in control of Somalia, we must negotiate with them. The sooner we open dialogue with them the better. The later group are international jihadis mainly from kenya and Ethiopia , these are the problem they came to kill and they don't have a sense of Somali nationalism. They must be relocated to Ethiopia or where ever they came from. And we should use them if it's necessary . Without alshabaab hand there is no way Somalis can defend themselves against Ethiopia.
You seem to bouncing from one war to another, one provocation to another. Have you learned nothing from the historic defeat inflicted upon your people at the battle of Goojacaade?

:snoop:
You are fool if you are expecting peace from anyone. This is the horn of Africa.
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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:30 am The only recipe we can add to the cooking Ethiopian pot is alshabaab. In fact thousands of alshabaab fighters are already Oromo they can easily relocate to central Ethiopia.
It's crucial to address complex matters like geopolitical conflicts with respect and thoughtful consideration.
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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:47 am
original dervish wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:59 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:03 am

In politics there are no terrorists. There are two groups of alshabaab The Nationalists and the internationalists. The first group are like Taliban they just want to be in control of Somalia, we must negotiate with them. The sooner we open dialogue with them the better. The later group are international jihadis mainly from kenya and Ethiopia , these are the problem they came to kill and they don't have a sense of Somali nationalism. They must be relocated to Ethiopia or where ever they came from. And we should use them if it's necessary . Without alshabaab hand there is no way Somalis can defend themselves against Ethiopia.
You seem to bouncing from one war to another, one provocation to another. Have you learned nothing from the historic defeat inflicted upon your people at the battle of Goojacaade?

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You are fool if you are expecting peace from anyone. This is the horn of Africa.
We will have our peace with the iidoors through strength.
We will make any war with the iidoors so costly and devasting that they will never ever think of attacking Dhulbahante.
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Re: Mexican standoff, where's Gubbet

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Ethiopia is planning something big
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