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Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

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Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:46 pm

Salaam snetters

I will be talking about one of the famous sheikhs in Somalia
His name is Yusuf Al Kownayn, some of are you asking (wasn't he an arab) but no, he was an Ethnic Somali from Zaylac ( the capital of the Awdal sultanate twin city of harar, centre of Islamic knowledge) If you ask anyone in Awdal about Yusuf Al kownyan you will
get his life story within 2 seconds :lol:

Anyways, why the name Kownyan? It was his nickname, "universal" due to the fact he spoke many languages, (arabic,somali,canfaari to name a few) He also studied in Iraq (Busra) that is where he first got the kownayn nickname. He returned back to Awdal afterwards, this is where uneducated somalis from outside Awdal confuse history, he merely came back from Iraq after completeing his studies, and was asked to convert the jahiil into islam ( pagan somali tribes)
He didn't come back "arab".That's impossible.

He came back to Somalia and , converted the Idoor population to Islam, along (with shiekh Isaaq), Yusuf al kownayn was the one to kill Bucur Bacayr,
This is the Zaylac tradition and therefore fact. References will be provided once I have everything in order. But like I said, this is the truth,come refute come debate the thread is open :P Yusuf Al Kownayn was a Dir man. Yes I said it and it's true, his real abtirsi coming soon, none of that made up bullshit. We have a reer Zaylici here to provide the truth
Also Aw Barkhaadle is a different man ( ALSO SOMALI!)
Somalis get simple things confused.
Im going to blow up the history section on snet believe me!

But remember Somalis, the oldest masjid outside Arabia is in ZAYLAC (Awdal Region)
Do you think we could not produce at least one indigenous Shiekh to spread the deen? (There was one who went to yemen...but alas another thread :P )
THINK IT AIN'T ILLEGAL YET

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:10 am

No takers :(

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:34 pm

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby SecretAgent » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:35 pm

Who da fukkkk is yusuf y does he have a arab last name :lol:

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:29 pm

Who da fukkkk is yusuf y does he have a arab last name :lol:
You false gadabursi, iga leexo this is awdal talk :evil:

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby James Dahl » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:03 am

I'm interested, what was his abtirsi to Dir?

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Mon May 05, 2014 9:56 pm

I'm interested, what was his abtirsi to Dir?

I only know it half way :lol: i'm trying to get the proper abtirsi to dir by september
(with documents a relative might get for me, but the oral abtirsi is fine enough for me)
inshallah

I see on your site you have made up one , why?
Where did you get the idea that he was an arab, id like to see sources :evil:

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby James Dahl » Mon May 05, 2014 10:19 pm

I'm interested, what was his abtirsi to Dir?

I only know it half way :lol: i'm trying to get the proper abtirsi to dir by september
(with documents a relative might get for me, but the oral abtirsi is fine enough for me)
inshallah

I see on your site you have made up one , why?
Where did you get the idea that he was an arab, id like to see sources :evil:
Just Cerulli, who isn't the best source. There's a copy of it in "saints and somalis" by I. M. Lewis (who is an even worse source) but it's the only source I have so there it is.

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Mon May 05, 2014 10:27 pm

I'm interested, what was his abtirsi to Dir?

I only know it half way :lol: i'm trying to get the proper abtirsi to dir by september
(with documents a relative might get for me, but the oral abtirsi is fine enough for me)
inshallah

I see on your site you have made up one , why?
Where did you get the idea that he was an arab, id like to see sources :evil:
Just Cerulli, who isn't the best source. There's a copy of it in "saints and somalis" by I. M. Lewis (who is an even worse source) but it's the only source I have so there it is.
So im lewis the white man said he was an arab man and made up an abtirsi basically

can u include this in the cliffnotes of yusuf al kownayn on ur site, dont mislead these non awdal somalis

ill get u a proper source inshallah.

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby James Dahl » Mon May 05, 2014 11:59 pm

Yusuf al-Kownayn is possibly the most confused with person in Somali history. He is variously confused with and conflated with:

Xasan Kaweyni, the Reerow Xasan ancestor
Yusuf Barkanti, of Muddan Muqabul Ogaden
Aw Barkhadle, the southern saint

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Tue May 06, 2014 12:10 am

Yusuf al-Kownayn is possibly the most confused with person in Somali history. He is variously confused with and conflated with:

Xasan Kaweyni, the Reerow Xasan ancestor
Yusuf Barkanti, of Muddan Muqabul Ogaden
Aw Barkhadle, the southern saint
To those outside of awdal they get confused easily, many like to claim famous people.

im talking about the Yusuf Al Kownyan ( remember al kownayn is just a nick name when he went to iraq) that was from zaylac.

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby Caesar » Fri May 09, 2014 1:19 pm

Yusuf al-Kownayn is possibly the most confused with person in Somali history. He is variously confused with and conflated with:

Xasan Kaweyni, the Reerow Xasan ancestor
Yusuf Barkanti, of Muddan Muqabul Ogaden
Aw Barkhadle, the southern saint
How was Aw Barkhadle from the south :shock:

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Re: Yusuf Al Kownayn was Somali

Postby James Dahl » Fri May 09, 2014 2:44 pm

Yusuf al-Kawnayn was known as "Aw Barkhadle", but the Aw Barkhadle the southern Somalis venerate was probably Xasan Kaweyni. I don't think Yusuf al-Kawnayn ever travelled to the south.


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