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Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:23 pm
by paidmonk
What I don't get is...despite the large numbers of Marexaan overseas and the organization they have (this forum is my prime example) why its taking longer for Marexaan clan members to form a state.

There are 3 levels of states in Somalia. The first tier is Somaliland, which is on the same level as a small African republic. The second tier is Puntland. And the third tier includes Maakhir/Galmudug.

Galmudug is my best example for a state that bloomed in a few short months. They don't have skyscrapers and an organized militia - but they make the best of what they have. I also use Galmudug as my example because it only took months to take the disorganized Sacad clan and turn them into an organized and progressive state. Albeit the whole thing started out as a tool for Puntland just like Puntland started out as a tool for Ethiopia - it still provided some positive kickbacks and a sense of local pride for those who have residence in the state.

I'll let pictures document what I'm trying to show - major developments in Galmudug as a result of the state's creation - this can be Cabudwaaq or Bardheere in 6 months, easily - I just want to know what is keeping those two cities from becoming like this:


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Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:16 am
by Murax
Ethiopian interference in Gedo both directly and indirectly (Creating a civil war there) over the past decade has been the biggest challenge. From USC/Yamyam/Ealay attacks in the '90s to SNF recapture, to Itixaad capture to SNF Vs Itixaad, then Gedo tribal civil War and Ethiopian meddling has been a deadly combiniation. To be honest Tigrays just got off our backs the past year or two where they now have Shabeele/Hiiraan and don't interfere in Gedo anymore. Since then We've made a maamul and now that maamul is trying to establish strong safety and security so relief agencies can start working there. One positive is Gedo today is very safe and could be one of the safest regions in Somalia. Next step is convincing NGO's and the diaspora to come back and help.



As a side note, unfortunately Gedo does not fall within the Hargeisa-Kismaayo road so it loses out on that business a little but We have Kenya for import/export trade. Things are looking up and We have a legitimate admin for every town in Gedo so just give it time. Things are looking up.


Btw if You're referring to Jubbaland then that is not possible as Abdullahi Yusuf has succeeded in totally butchering that proposition by creating enough friction within the clan. Unfortunate but Marexaan are not at the level politically to make such a venture succeed. We'll start with baby steps, focus on Gedo, build it and then go from there. As far as Kismaayo goes I really hope a legitimate Government comes along and takes control of that underutilized city and turns it into something special all Somalis can benefit from :somalia:

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:16 am
by Advo
Bro...I ask myself that same question day in and day out.

The answers that I come up with is.

1. We are very very divided and there's always inner competition with so and so subclans.

2. Alot of incompotent calool ushaqeestayaal are our so called leaders and people blindly support them.

3. Also Comparing Guldumudug with Jubbaland is very unfair, as Gstate only has half of galgacyo and few tuulooyins, and sacad wich is like reer-diini (as apposed to whole MR) can quickly solve their issues, The challanages we face is very complicated, u see how hard somaliland (orginized for over a decade) is trying to bring lascaanood and las qorey within their folds, anaga we are trying to unite 3 gobols possibly the most important and resourceful in somalia into ONE state.....so the challanges are much greater.

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:23 am
by CoolPoisoninthisbijj
Rer Ba'ayeste's bigger then all Sacad

there's been deveopment, just cause U dont see pictures doesnt mean there is.

but 2 many inter Marehan wars last 20 years

SNF (Haji Masale) vs Itihad

SNF (Isak Bihi) vs SSRC (Sayid Hasan)

I support the leaders who only have Marehan interest like Ahmed Warsame and Hirale and Jama Dhere. the rest are focking calool ushaqeestayaal.

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:26 am
by whitewell
Salaam to all of you: my distant-but-blood cousins:

I must start off with little apology to the forum for the fire-cracks I caused in the taming process of that ...boi... whatever...
My meagre-excuses to himself too. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :!:

Anyway: I think we need to start thinking critically when it comes to the development of our lands. In this, I must state that truth and only truth holds water. Our problems as a clan strech from Negelle-Borana and Babili to Kismayo as far-Northward as Galgadud and Mudug. There are, at the same time, some other chunks of land that Marehans of antequity inhabit. Marehans are continental.

We share one problem, but one is special for those in Somalia, proper. Those problems must be identified, only then, they can be intervened.

The problem we share is the name: For example, I - a citizen of Ethiopia- wince with pain when I hear Marehans humiliated or killed. And I can't believe when I hear they're killing each other. And the statement that Ethiopia created an enmity in Marehans is a sheer lie. I was in Moyale with UNHCR when the unfortunate inter-clan fighting was taking place. from 1996 - 2005.

The problem that we have wuth which we can never develop is a desease I had coined as 'Tutalei Syndarome.'

Tutalei Syndarome is the art of smearing and public lynching -with cheap propoganda- everyone that the state [Reer Diini] deems its enemy in terms of discovering the truth; taking a stand; suggesting a thing; telling the truth; or even dressing nice; and so forth.

Dr. Ali-Nuur M. Moktarr (AuN)
Dr. Mohamed Aden Sheik
Mr. Jama Aden Dhere
Col. Abdi Igall
Col. Abbas Ibrahim
Mr. Hussein Weine
Mr. Jaango'an
Dr. Hussein Warsame
Dr. "I Say" Don't knoe the exact name
Col. Aden Bulle
Col. Mohamed Hassan Ismail
Gov. Mohamed Irris
Mr. Mohamed Farah Jirei

Were all either physically or morally lynched by the likes and the kind of Sadeboi and his aunts. Let's first apologize to one another; promise that - No matter what sub-clan, the greatest will lead us-- only then, we can think of development.

Advo. Pls don't delete! It will be tantamount to denial!

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:03 am
by Murax
^^

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Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:32 am
by QansaGabeyle
For one thing, we don't have propaganda machines that blow things out of proportion and that report every positive thing that happens in our regions. Just because you do not hear of it does not mean these things do not happen. We don't brag like the people from north who take two pictures from different angles of every new building that is built in some country hamlet with no running water or electricity.

Anyway your answer lies within the Marexaan community in OHIO. The city is teeming with them but most businesses are owned by others. :o

Advo. Pls don't delete! It will be tantamount to denial!


Who is this guy? :?

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:45 am
by Advo
waa ciro's cousin (former governor of gedo) and his hell bent in creating division between MR sub clans.

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:22 am
by Murax
Advo wrote:waa ciro's cousin (former governor of gedo) and his hell bent in creating division between MR sub clans.




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Cirro is a dabaal

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:55 am
by dulgaduud123
Let's first apologize to one another; promise that - No matter what sub-clan, the greatest will lead us-- only then, we can think of development.

:up: :up: :up:

i think this applies mostly to kismaayo where there is no sense of leadership, and ultimately to all our lands

we as marehans need to overcome this jealousy and extreme competitiveness toward each other

i think its absurd that we behave like this when infact the enemy is vigilantly in our surroundings

plus we have far bigger things to worry about as large amount of our land is occupied by others

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:04 pm
by QansaGabeyle
we as marehans need to overcome this jealousy and extreme competitiveness toward each other


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Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:39 pm
by Murax
QansaGabeyle wrote:
we as marehans need to overcome this jealousy and extreme competitiveness toward each other


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marexaanka wax ka xaasidsan majirto when it comes to themselves

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:39 pm
by Advo
bytch ass niggas.........how come you'll didnt quote me, when I said the samething as brotha guduud said?


Issit cause all u niggas are bah dracula?

Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:10 am
by Muhammad bin Harti
you need to come to the realization that the marehen clan got buried in 1996 in lagos, nigeria. all the intellgient MX's got killed in the war, and whats left is the reer badiyo, who couldnt make lemonade.. let alone a state.

God bless Puntland, The home of the homosexuals :somalia: :somalia: :somalia:




Re: Marexaan State Development: Serious Questions

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:01 am
by dulgaduud123
majereerteen :down: :down: this is gedo not pukeland

you guys realy dont have any dignity what so ever not to mention wadanimo

as for pukeland go run your state build on charity and stop embarising the darood clan with your calaacal everytime somaliland %%%% you from behind whiles you suck hawiye %%%% up front

lets wait and see the next time you gays ask for a hand :lol: i mean arent you gays holding tigree %%%% right now

and what kind of sick mentality do you have for taking pride in the death of educated people, as a result of your kind of people somalia is this

viva somalia :somalia: :somalia: :rose: