Col Cabas

[Lite-Somali]

that something many MR's dnt understand.. we came to Gedo because of Ogadens im gonna humor u and ask for u to tell me hows tht possible

[The_Patriot]

that something many MR's dnt understand.. we came to Gedo because of Ogadens im gonna humor u and ask for u to tell me hows tht possible

when MR mutinied the Sayids soilders and fled south.

[BaasAbuur]

The stupidity of cagdheers is amazing wallahi. Subxanallah, I never thought it could get worse than dumping sugar into the Jubba river. Marexaans left Gedo to fight in the North and here we have a brain dead cagdheer telling us otherwise. No wonder you continue loosing your land inch by inch to everyone from Isaaqs, Shikhaals to even Dabarra and Ajuran. I question the daroodnimo of Ogadens sometimes because they are so fockin weak wallahi.

[zingii]

By what i heard there was a poem the SAYID (AUN) uu ku dhaaranayo MR's and trashing others i dont want to name.
i think i even read that poem somewhere on the internet.

[new-york24]

The stupidity of cagdheers is amazing wallahi. Subxanallah, I never thought it could get worse than dumping sugar into the Jubba river. Marexaans left Gedo to fight in the North and here we have a brain dead cagdheer telling us otherwise. No wonder you continue loosing your land inch by inch to everyone from Isaaqs, Shikhaals to even Dabarra and Ajuran. I question the daroodnimo of Ogadens sometimes because they are so fockin weak wallahi.

waa koow.

bal inoo tiri dhulka ogaden laga heysto maanta.

[Advo]

We brought Ogaadeen to southern Somalia except reer cawlyahan, the rest came comfortably in the 70's because of SADE hospitality. I think our guest stayed too long, so long, they forgot they were guest in the beginning, operation back to qabridahar is comming up!, dont worry We will deliver turki in one piece after ur mass exodus, that is; if XoogSADE doesnt get to him first, than it would be obviously in a body bag.

[The_Patriot]

We brought Ogaadeen to southern Somalia except reer cawlyahan, the rest came comfortably in the 70's because of SADE hospitality. I think our guest stayed too long, so long, they forgot they were guest in the beginning, operation back to qabridahar is comming up!, dont worry We will deliver turki in one piece after ur mass exodus, that is; if XoogSADE doesnt get to him first, than it would be obviously in a body bag.

dude its the other way round we put MR in the Somali map in the 70's Siyads rule lasted for 20 yrs due to Ogaden loyality. Marexan could not even support Siyad for even 1 on the 21st year when Ogaden mutined.

If you guys take bacK Kismaayo I guarantee you can take back Mogadishu and rejuvinate back the Sade years of early 80's to late 80's

[ahmed_gurey]

The stupidity of cagdheers is amazing wallahi. Subxanallah, I never thought it could get worse than dumping sugar into the Jubba river. Marexaans left Gedo to fight in the North and here we have a brain dead cagdheer telling us otherwise. No wonder you continue loosing your land inch by inch to everyone from Isaaqs, Shikhaals to even Dabarra and Ajuran. I question the daroodnimo of Ogadens sometimes because they are so fockin weak wallahi.

war ninku aqli daranaa, waa su NY yidhi ee waa kow, even after 50 yrs of occupation our land is still intact bal put any other clan in that position xaaraan yahow,wr fighter's and ur haiter.....ogaden wr first to jubaland iyo south ba we wr chasing the oromo's south, the bantu's to the sea and the eelays to the north, markaas baan gokol ithiiin so dhignay....without ogaden darood were would darood be today.

[zingii]

Between the 17th and 18th centuries, the Marehan Sultanate was an important sultanate, which extended from Bender Ziyade on the Gulf of Aden to beyond Ras el-Khail on the Indian Ocean[3], or much of northern Somalia. Its Marehan constituents are recorded as having played a major role in Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi's campaigns against Ethiopia during the 16th century. The commander of the Somali forces and the closest deputy of the Imam was a Marehan commander, Garad Ahmed bin Hirabu. The Marehan helped push westward into the plains of Jijiga and farther, helping destabilize the highland Christian empire. Evident in these battles were the Somali archers, namely the Marehan and the Gerri archers, through whom al-Ghazi was able to defeat the numerically superior Ethiopian Army that consisted of 16,000 cavalry and more than 200,000 infantry.[4]

Nearing the 19th century, the Marehan sultanate declined and withdrew from the Nugaal area and became confined to the Sool and Sanaag regions.[5] The Marehan were also the allies of the Somali hero Sayyid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan, and fought against the British. In a boast of Hassan, he declares his power and reach is such that he can climb even the highest trees that exist; the trees of the Marehan. This is meant to signify that Hassan is so powerful that he even has the support of the powerful Marehan and only they, out of the rest of the Somalis, can aptly describe the reach of his power. As early as 1850, the Marehan were recorded moving into Jubaland. It was recorded that:

"To the east the Somalis were once more on the move. By 1850, one of the Darod Somali groups, the Marehan crossed the Juba in force. In 1865 they went on to break the Tana Galla [sic] and by 1880 had turned on the Boran. Pagan peoples in this region were now being dominated by Muslims, and peasants by nomads from the north."[6]

[zingii]

Ahmed-Gurey: Read the writing in the read txt.
I should not hear more fake arguments from you, unless you show us facts that are supporting your arguments.

Iska muran looma joogo meesha.

The_Patriot: The writing in the blue txt is 4 u.

[zingii]

[snoop12]

zingii

some people find it an achievement just to argue with the Sons of Sade, you giving them the sense of accomplishment by actually responding sensibly to them

having said that, most of the Cagdheers on Snet are Dhaboyaac the sons of habar majerten(ethiopian war booty ) any idiot can see the fugly midgets have put on Super size shoes to pretend to be Cagdheer, but every now and then they will stumble slipping out of the shoes revealing their tiny feet and their true Dhaboyaac identity

[The_Patriot]

Between the 17th and 18th centuries, the Marehan Sultanate was an important sultanate, which extended from Bender Ziyade on the Gulf of Aden to beyond Ras el-Khail on the Indian Ocean[3], or much of northern Somalia. Its Marehan constituents are recorded as having played a major role in Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi's campaigns against Ethiopia during the 16th century. The commander of the Somali forces and the closest deputy of the Imam was a Marehan commander, Garad Ahmed bin Hirabu. The Marehan helped push westward into the plains of Jijiga and farther, helping destabilize the highland Christian empire. Evident in these battles were the Somali archers, namely the Marehan and the Gerri archers, through whom al-Ghazi was able to defeat the numerically superior Ethiopian Army that consisted of 16,000 cavalry and more than 200,000 infantry.[4]

Nearing the 19th century, the Marehan sultanate declined and withdrew from the Nugaal area and became confined to the Sool and Sanaag regions.[5] The Marehan were also the allies of the Somali hero Sayyid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan, and fought against the British. In a boast of Hassan, he declares his power and reach is such that he can climb even the highest trees that exist; the trees of the Marehan. This is meant to signify that Hassan is so powerful that he even has the support of the powerful Marehan and only they, out of the rest of the Somalis, can aptly describe the reach of his power. As early as 1850, the Marehan were recorded moving into Jubaland. It was recorded that:

"To the east the Somalis were once more on the move. By 1850, one of the Darod Somali groups, the Marehan crossed the Juba in force. In 1865 they went on to break the Tana Galla [sic] and by 1880 had turned on the Boran. Pagan peoples in this region were now being dominated by Muslims, and peasants by nomads from the north."[6]

Why rely on cadan interpretation I can bring alot from Cadan that will disprove your theories

[ahmed_gurey]

is that your source "the long history of a somali clan" a pro-mareexaan website.....this is the real story.

Kismayo was originally settled by the Banjuni people and only developed as an urban centre in the 1880s, when the Sultan of Zanzibar held suzerainty over Kismayo.

In 1865 the Ogaden crossed from the east to the west side of the Juba river, pushing out the Oromo, who had been weakened by a smallpox epidemic, and gained control of pastoral lands between the Juba and the Tana rivers. According to the Ogaden, the first inhabitants of Kismayo were Ogaden Muqaabul, who are now concentrated in Badade district south of Kismayo.

The first evidence of Harti settlement in Kismayo dates from the 1880s, when Harti traders from north-east Somalia established a foothold in the town. The main Harti group to settle in the town were Majeerteen traders from Ras Hafuun, who were known as 'Hafuuni'. Conflicts between the Osman Mahmoud and the Ali Suleiban Majeerteen, in north-east Somalia, led many of the Ali Suleiban to migrate to Kismayo (see diagram 8). Further migrations by the Issa Mahmoud and the Dolbahunte took place during the wars of the Sayid Abdulla Hassan (the 'Mad Mullah'), in the first two decades of this century.

At the time when Kismayo was ceded to Italy, the British are said to have enforced an agreement between the Harti and Ogadenis. According to the Ogaden, the agreement found in favour of the Ogadenis, giving their Sultan Ahmed Magan overall authority in Jubaland. This has now passed to his grandson Sultan Abdi Ali 'Songkor'. According to the Harti, the agreements stipulated that the Ogaden (mainly Mohamed Zubeir) should stay north of what is now the Liboi-Kismayo road, while the area south of this remained under the control of the Harti. By this agreement the Mohamed Zubeir Ogaden were also given access to the port.21

[ahmed_gurey]

and more

An interesting account of the origin of the trouble with the Marehan tribe in Jubaland, British East Africa, is given by the Kismayu correspondent of the East African Standard. The Marehan were until recently located in the Hinterland of Northern Somaliland. The Mullah induced them to join with him in an attack on the friendlies, promising them a fair share of the arms he hoped to capture. These arms had been supplied to the friendlies by the British authorities in order that they might defend themselves against such antive enemies when the British forces were withdrawn to the coast. The Mullah, however, took good card, as usual, that the Marehan got little of the precious loot, though they had done a good deal of the fighting. Fearing further spoliation if they remained in his vicnicity, the tribe decided to move south across the Hinterland of Italian East Africa and to settle down in Jubaland, in Northern British East Africa. They were obliged to the Juba river near Serenli, 300 miles from the coast, as the district below that point was already occupied by the Ogaden tribe, with whom they were at feud. It was not until they had been established for some time in their new country to to the north of Serenli that the authorities discovered that they possessed arms and ammunition, and were gathering more from Abbyssinia. They were summoned to give up their arms, but refused to do so unless other tribes, including their enemies, the Ogaden, were forced to do likewise. There is a good deal of inter-tribal fighting in this region. The tribes trade cattle for rifles with the Abbysinians, and als there are only two or three British posts over a frontier line of about 600 miles, the smuggling of the weapons presents little difficulty. The Marehan were told that a general disarmament could not be effected as yet. This caused much dissatisfaction among them, and when reinforcements arrived from the garrison at Serenli, they not unnaturally thought they were to be attacked, and determined to be the first to take the offensive.

The correspondent suggests that the immigration of these Somali tribes should be prevented by the establishment of a chain of block-houses along the border and the utilisation as auxiliaries of such tribes as the Ogaden, and further, that measures should be taken at Addis Abeba and along the Abyssinian frontier to prevent the smuggling of arms--Press Association.

so when marehaan came south,they found ogaden was already there.