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Marehan Population in the Diaspora

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby mahdi01 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:55 am

Somali Renaissance wrote: For the older more knowledgeable individuals in this forum, please contribute in a very serious manner and thinking.


Somalia in General and Gedo and Galgaduud in particular, there is only one thing they need from you, your Brain, when you become a merit your self, then you can help others, so start from your self and educate as much as you can, today there are tens of thousands of kids in the above mentioned regions can’t even dream of the opportunities you have.

Tomorrow when you go back you can help everyone by your knowledge either you become math and Science teachers or work at the engineering and administrative fields.

So education is the real answer of most of our problems in back home, educated people focus where they are common rather than what divide them.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby zingii » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:38 am

mahdi01 wrote:
Somali Renaissance wrote: For the older more knowledgeable individuals in this forum, please contribute in a very serious manner and thinking.


Somalia in General and Gedo and Galgaduud in particular, there is only one thing they need from you, your Brain, when you become a merit your self, then you can help others, so start from your self and educate as much as you can, today there are tens of thousands of kids in the above mentioned regions can’t even dream of the opportunities you have.

Tomorrow when you go back you can help everyone by your knowledge either you become math and Science teachers or work at the engineering and administrative fields.

So education is the real answer of most of our problems in back home, educated people focus where they are common rather than what divide them.


For that to happen the educated need peace, without peace they will not take the risk and get killed by a Doqon.
Hadday nabad iyo kala dambeyn ay arkaan ayagaa dan usoo wada laaban.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:25 am

mahdi01 wrote:
Somali Renaissance wrote: For the older more knowledgeable individuals in this forum, please contribute in a very serious manner and thinking.


Somalia in General and Gedo and Galgaduud in particular, there is only one thing they need from you, your Brain, when you become a merit your self, then you can help others, so start from your self and educate as much as you can, today there are tens of thousands of kids in the above mentioned regions can’t even dream of the opportunities you have.

Tomorrow when you go back you can help everyone by your knowledge either you become math and Science teachers or work at the engineering and administrative fields.

So education is the real answer of most of our problems in back home, educated people focus where they are common rather than what divide them.



true, but in order for things to run smoothly and effectively, the educated people most come together and get to know each other so they can work together and establish goals, training etc etc for the masses.

and i like to add that its not just people who have degrees from university who can contribute but everyone who has something to offer whether be knowledge of the diin to financial support.

if systems are created to make it easier for potential contributors and system to train other people we can together finance our own developments completely independently.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Somali Renaissance » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:22 pm

snoop12 wrote:
mahdi01 wrote:
Somali Renaissance wrote: For the older more knowledgeable individuals in this forum, please contribute in a very serious manner and thinking.


Somalia in General and Gedo and Galgaduud in particular, there is only one thing they need from you, your Brain, when you become a merit your self, then you can help others, so start from your self and educate as much as you can, today there are tens of thousands of kids in the above mentioned regions can’t even dream of the opportunities you have.

Tomorrow when you go back you can help everyone by your knowledge either you become math and Science teachers or work at the engineering and administrative fields.

So education is the real answer of most of our problems in back home, educated people focus where they are common rather than what divide them.



true, but in order for things to run smoothly and effectively, the educated people most come together and get to know each other so they can work together and establish goals, training etc etc for the masses.

and i like to add that its not just people who have degrees from university who can contribute but everyone who has something to offer whether be knowledge of the diin to financial support.

if systems are created to make it easier for potential contributors and system to train other people we can together finance our own developments completely independently.


Good points guys. It's not really about anyone individual per se but rather a SYSTEM. look at McDonalds for example, no matter which one of their million restaurants you go to they all taste the same, regardless if the person flipping those burger and shaking those fries is a PHD older or a high school drop out. So what must be done is to actually develop a system that will let us utilize our talents in our fields. We need a system that will allow us to be able to remove anyone individual from a post or add a new face and things will never change for the worse. We need a system that give different roles to the following groups of people:

1-Diaspora
2-Elders
3-Youth
4-Children
5-Educated(formally eg; College/University, or informally eg; through life experiences)
6-Women

The system we need should also be free from any controversial alliances that people differ in such as:
1-Politics(the system does not take sides with any political movements)
2-Religious affiliation(Obviously the condition is that everyone in administrative positions are all Muslim men)

To accomplish this we need some of the following to happen:
1-Equal representation of all sub clans.
2-Our own private security that protects our investments/developments ONLY!(until there is a strong enough police force that can guarantee the safety of the workers/contributors)

Feel free to point out any disagreements, and be sure to add anything else that you might feel is left out.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby BaasAbuur » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:25 pm

I am sorry but I disagree with you guys. Education is not the answer. MONEY is! A broke educated person can't do shit for anyone........go there with money and institutions that will outlive you.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Somali Renaissance » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:34 pm

BaasAbuur wrote:I am sorry but I disagree with you guys. Education is not the answer. MONEY is! A broke educated person can't do shit for anyone........go there with money and institutions that will outlive you.


You need both bro. There is nothing more disastrous than a wealthy group with no education. The education I'm talking about here is not just going to school but also being able to come up with real solutions to real life problems.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:13 am

Somali Renaissance :up: good points, a good start and it will be improved along the way inshallah

BaasAbuur,

Somali Renaissance wrote:
snoop12 wrote:
true, but in order for things to run smoothly and effectively, the educated people most come together and get to know each other so they can work together and establish goals, training etc etc for the masses.

and i like to add that its not just people who have degrees from university who can contribute but everyone who has something to offer whether be knowledge of the diin to financial support.

if systems are created to make it easier for potential contributors and system to train other people we can together finance our own developments completely independently.


Good points guys. It's not really about anyone individual per se but rather a SYSTEM. look at McDonalds for example, no matter which one of their million restaurants you go to they all taste the same, regardless if the person flipping those burger and shaking those fries is a PHD older or a high school drop out. So what must be done is to actually develop a system that will let us utilize our talents in our fields. We need a system that will allow us to be able to remove anyone individual from a post or add a new face and things will never change for the worse. We need a system that give different roles to the following groups of people:

1-Diaspora
2-Elders
3-Youth
4-Children
5-Educated(formally eg; College/University, or informally eg; through life experiences)
6-Women

The system we need should also be free from any controversial alliances that people differ in such as:
1-Politics(the system does not take sides with any political movements)
2-Religious affiliation(Obviously the condition is that everyone in administrative positions are all Muslim men)

To accomplish this we need some of the following to happen:
1-Equal representation of all sub clans.
2-Our own private security that protects our investments/developments ONLY!(until there is a strong enough police force that can guarantee the safety of the workers/contributors)

Feel free to point out any disagreements, and be sure to add anything else that you might feel is left out.


the population back home can offer just as much as us or even more, this is because they know the land and the people much more than we do, they can pin point the everyday challenges and problems they are facing etc etc...everyone should be onboard in this, no discrimination BaasAbuur.

topic :up:

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby BaasAbuur » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:21 am

Snoop, waa runtaa, everyone should take part in the rebuilding of this destroyed once great nation. Money just makes things a lot simpler and without a business community to bankroll the projects and the implementation of ideas from the leadership, nothing will happen. You can't rely on foreign aid for all your development. In fact, it has the opposite affect on development for we have seen over time that it brings about corruption and retards growth.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:39 am

if systems are created to make it easier for potential contributors and system to train other people we can together finance our own developments completely independently.


you right but i already mentioned it :mrgreen:

money talks, but without an intellectual or a well established business minded person the Dollars will have no effect. You see we need a system that collectively gatheres enough money from individuals around the globe and then spends this money collectively to develop things that will prove very effective and beneficial.

looking at the current situation, e.g. the money import to Cabudwaaq is large enough to make swift improvements such as Police station, Hospital, Education etc etc but because this money comes from familys scattered all over the globe there is no collective use of this money, which is a downer.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Somali Renaissance » Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:02 pm

So here is a semi draft of an ideal situation/system:

1-All Diaspora are contacted and they are made to agree to a monthly contribution(direct withdrawl from their bank accounts, we now how consistent Somalis are :roll: ) of $100. This gives us a total of $5,000,000/mth ($100x50,000ppl=5,000,000). This $5mil will be collect for three months(which brings it to a total of $15mil) and then divided up by the following manner 4 times a year:
-Salary for the staff(doctors, teachers,etc..) 25%=$3.75mil
-Loans for small businesses back home 20%=$3mil
-These loans are given to individuals who display the following 1) A very well written out business plan 2) Known to be trust worthy and reliable. 3) Are not currently receiving assistance from family in the Diaspora. 4) The business has to be able to employ a minimum of 3 NON family individuals. If we give out loans as high as $10,000 per person, we can open up a total of 300 businesses that employs a total of 900 people 4 times a year, which will mean we opened up 1200 businesses, employed 3600 individuals who can in turn provide for 3600 families, in a manner of 1 YEAR!
-Investments in foreign more stable economies 30%=$4.5mil
-Couple reasons why we want to do this: 1) The income that is generated from the foreign markets will go towards financing the organizations bigger projects such as schools, hospitals, housing , etc...2)It will elevate some hardships from the Diaspora's financial contribution 3) Once these investments are generating large returns the need for the Diaspora's financial assistance will no longer be there.
-Emergency response Aide for the most pressing issues 10%=$1.5mil
-International student assistance programs. 15%=$2.25mil
-Goals of this is to get as many of our youths educated as possible without having to have them get into crazy debts, the condition is that they agree to go back to our regions and contribute with the education for a minimum of 5 years. If we give out as much as $50,000/student(to cover 4-6 years study) we will be able to put 180 students through higher education per year.
2-The Elders gather together and they state their most troubling issues that needed to be responded to. Which we will then prioritize.
3-Youth are hired to do the labour work in the region according to their abilities.
4-Children are given free education both Deen and academics(this is not as expensive as it looks the Diaspora can easily finance this).
5-Educated people are used as doctors, teachers, supervisors,etc.. on a salary.
6-Women provide nurturing of the family and being the supportive backbone that they have always been. This is a very important role in the society because depending whether or not there are strong families in the society will decide whether or not we will be corrupt or honorable people.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:10 pm

Somali Renaissance

great eye for detail, and it does not seem too ambiguos at all, it can be achieved no doubt :up: 8-)

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby zingii » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:18 pm

S-R, waa fikrad fiicantahay balse dadka saa iskuma aamini karaan, kuwa wanaaga wada waxaa kabadan kuwa xumaanta wada, qayaanada wada etc. Maalmahan calooshood u shaqestayaashi baa batay.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Somali Renaissance » Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:23 pm

snoop12 wrote:Somali Renaissance

great eye for detail, and it does not seem too ambiguos at all, it can be achieved no doubt :up: 8-)


It's not that difficult if we all work together.

zingii wrote:S-R, waa fikrad fiicantahay balse dadka saa iskuma aamini karaan, kuwa wanaaga wada waxaa kabadan kuwa xumaanta wada, qayaanada wada etc. Maalmahan calooshood u shaqestayaashi baa batay.


You have a valid point here bro. This what keeps us from moving forward. That's why I would like to something like this to be organized and administered by Youths that are actually educated and have bigger goals then their bellies. People like you and me, :up:

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby mahdi01 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:12 am

Somali Renaissance,

Okay, that is good you showed me some numbers here but, brother that is very conservative, it is only administrations can work like that not a clan system, it is much easier to establish and administration than to wait money from people that may never contribute that amount of money.

Today in Somalia people need only good governance, if they get security that assures investment will not be disturbed, jobs will be created and everyone will live a normal life.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Murax » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:35 am

BaasAbuur wrote:
BaasAbuur wrote:Every city I have been to in the states had a significant Marehan population so Marehans are pretty deep down here. I don't know other parts of the world though. But seriously, what does it matter if these people do not contribute to the development of their regions?


:lol: :lol: I remember reading an article on Gedonet about beesha Marexaan oo Madison Wisconsin....



I heard a Sade baaq from North Dakota too on Gedonet :lol:


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