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Marehan Population in the Diaspora

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:55 am

mahdi01 wrote:Somali Renaissance,

Okay, that is good you showed me some numbers here but, brother that is very conservative, it is only administrations can work like that not a clan system, it is much easier to establish and administration than to wait money from people that may never contribute that amount of money.

Today in Somalia people need only good governance, if they get security that assures investment will not be disturbed, jobs will be created and everyone will live a normal life.



you make it sound so easy, i think you only paying attention to the simple aspects :| big projects like hospitals, airport, water well drilling, schools/university, farming, regional government etc etc need large sums of investment and in order for us to get these things we need beesha diaspora to tip in and give a helping hand both financial and in management (they must do this COLLECTIVELY). how can you possibly build an administration without a strong financial backing, it will break up or become corrupt and must definitely end with corrupt figures fighting over scarce resource.


also the people who has business such as farms etc etc there is room for improvement, such as means of improving pastoralism so we can avoid dispute between neighbors arising and also to make the outcome more efficient.

its not a simple job managing large sums of money and managing development across the land from Cabudwaaq to Gedo to where ever we can find beesha.

Somali Renaissance :up: good job, we need more people who can engage non-hesitantly

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby mahdi01 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:38 pm

I understan you brother, my point is reliable administration and security is number one step, then everything else can bee discussed.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:58 pm

Lol you building and administration without having anything to administer ? :lol:

i suggest we should concern ourselves with first grouping up all the intellectuals and forming some kind of Youth association from there we can take necessary steps :up: :mrgreen:

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby zingii » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:46 pm

Sxb waxa kali ah aan u baahannahay waa nabad iyo kala dambeyn iyo dastuur, haddii intaa lahelo Qurbo joog oo dhan oo dhulalkaas u dhashay wey laaban oo maal gelin bay ku waxayn dhulkooda. Kenya waxa dhaqaalaha xukumo waa MR's, Isliida aad arkeysid mostly waa MR's. Hadday maamul isku filan iyo nabadoo la sugay arkaan MR-land dhaqso ayaa lagu dhisi oo maal gelin loogu waxayn. Waxaadna ogaataa Gedo in ay tahay dhul stratijik ah oo labo boodhar laba gees ka xigaan, badeecada somaliya ka baxeysa ama soo galeysa intaba Gedo in ay soo maraan weyaan waxaan ka aheyn inta badaha la marsiiyo.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:10 am

why is every one except for Somali Renaissance avoiding this major opportunity, if we dont utilize these diaspora we are missing out on some big things :down:

i know very well people back home long for peace, but we cant do that much about it POLITICALLY, so what you are in fact suggesting is not to do anything :|

Look at it this way, most of us send money back home for Family or Qaraabo, right? ask yourself why? because they need expenses to go to hospital outside of their region and then pay ridiculous fees, or they go Uni/college outside of their region, or the drought was particular bad and they need help with sustaining their livestock, etc etc

we as the diaspora should pay attention to all these things and work towards solving them :!: :!:

how do we solve these issues, first work COLLECTIVELY in this, because the thing we are missing is Focusing our investments in necessary sectors, such as the thousands of students paying for education elsewhere could be focused on one point within our region.

how can i stress the importance of being COLLECTIVE


dont bother with Politics that much it will confuse you, people on the ground are Muslims and majority good muslims so lets stop wasting time on Law enforcement and that stuff when we are not dealing with animals :down: , i am confident if we deal with their real issues they will not only be more welcoming but the crimes will reduce as people turn to the work you have created for them :idea:

lets all recognize the place we need to start... and it is not dealing with the political administration on the ground, but a Educational/Financial/Healh administration from these countries and then implement them on the ground Somalia

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Somali Renaissance » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:31 am

snoop12 wrote:Lol you building and administration without having anything to administer ? :lol:

i suggest we should concern ourselves with first grouping up all the intellectuals and forming some kind of Youth association from there we can take necessary steps :up: :mrgreen:


Exactly!
1-The administration will naturally come once the ppl start to see first hand the rewards that can be reaped from collective organization.
2-An administration is something that needs to be set up by qualified elders, where as a collective Diaspora is something that can be organized and run by ourselves(the youths).
3-The moment you mention an administration is going to be established, you instantly have enemies and allies a like. Then there will be battle of ideologies and the TYPE of administration that is to run the region! This will waste our meager resources and discredit us in the face of the Diaspora.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:58 pm

Somali Renaissance wrote:
snoop12 wrote:Lol you building and administration without having anything to administer ? :lol:

i suggest we should concern ourselves with first grouping up all the intellectuals and forming some kind of Youth association from there we can take necessary steps :up: :mrgreen:


Exactly!
1-The administration will naturally come once the ppl start to see first hand the rewards that can be reaped from collective organization.
2-An administration is something that needs to be set up by qualified elders, where as a collective Diaspora is something that can be organized and run by ourselves(the youths).
3-The moment you mention an administration is going to be established, you instantly have enemies and allies a like. Then there will be battle of ideologies and the TYPE of administration that is to run the region! This will waste our meager resources and discredit us in the face of the Diaspora.


mahdi pay attention to this :up:

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Somali Renaissance » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:56 pm

zingii wrote:Sxb waxa kali ah aan u baahannahay waa nabad iyo kala dambeyn iyo dastuur, haddii intaa lahelo Qurbo joog oo dhan oo dhulalkaas u dhashay wey laaban oo maal gelin bay ku waxayn dhulkooda. Kenya waxa dhaqaalaha xukumo waa MR's, Isliida aad arkeysid mostly waa MR's. Hadday maamul isku filan iyo nabadoo la sugay arkaan MR-land dhaqso ayaa lagu dhisi oo maal gelin loogu waxayn. Waxaadna ogaataa Gedo in ay tahay dhul stratijik ah oo labo boodhar laba gees ka xigaan, badeecada somaliya ka baxeysa ama soo galeysa intaba Gedo in ay soo maraan weyaan waxaan ka aheyn inta badaha la marsiiyo.


You're right bro, we DO need peace and unification, but FACT of the matter is is that we've been waiting for peace and unification for almost 20years. How much longer will we be waiting? When we take action regardless of the stability situation we start to have an impact(kinda like Doctors Without Borders). At first ppl will think that this won't work, then some ppl will begin to benefit from it, then ppl become more opened minded, which in turn will encourage other "risk takers" to start investing in the region. What we are doing is basically starting a snow ball which will become an economical Avalanche insha Allah :up:

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Looyaan_Junior » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:02 pm

Very interesting discusions, best of luck guys simples ideas like the ones you got here if incubated well can go long way.....
S-R I applause your enthuasism sir, keep it real bro

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby snoop12 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:07 pm

positive inputs are welcomed bro :up:

inshallah if this takes off it will spread into the neighboring regions and eventually help Jubbaland, but at the moment it is but exchange of ideas between Rer Jubbaland :idea:

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Looyaan_Junior » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:33 pm

snoop12 wrote:positive inputs are welcomed bro :up:
inshallah if this takes off it will spread into the neighboring regions and eventually help Jubbaland, but at the moment it is but exchange of ideas between Rer Jubbaland :idea:


Commitment is the key to achieving everything and I know from simple experience as long as you have a willing participants in the process nothing can stop you.
Perhaps you could start with small project like one school or Hospital if possible.

I have been involved in sponsorship scheme in a high school in my hometown of Dhagehbur (Sorry I'm not from Jubaland) and seeing one of the kids from that school making all the way to John Hopkins University (a very good school in US) was one of the most rewarding and satisying experiences I had it was money well spent.

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Re: Marehan Population in the Diaspora

Postby Somali Renaissance » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:00 pm

Looyaan_Junior wrote:
snoop12 wrote:positive inputs are welcomed bro :up:
inshallah if this takes off it will spread into the neighboring regions and eventually help Jubbaland, but at the moment it is but exchange of ideas between Rer Jubbaland :idea:


Commitment is the key to achieving everything and I know from simple experience as long as you have a willing participants in the process nothing can stop you.
Perhaps you could start with small project like one school or Hospital if possible.

I have been involved in sponsorship scheme in a high school in my hometown of Dhagehbur (Sorry I'm not from Jubaland) and seeing one of the kids from that school making all the way to John Hopkins University (a very good school in US) was one of the most rewarding and satisying experiences I had it was money well spent.


May Allah reward you for your efforts bro. How did you go about getting that school built? The costs etc...


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