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Dadka ku dhaqan ama ka imaaday gobolkan

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Babygirl- » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:21 am

TW looool Mjs have too much Hawiye in them too. :lol:

Cool we do, :lol: Bah Hawiye (Fiqishini)

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Nabeela » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:17 pm

So I'm related to Hawiye? :shock: :P

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Re: Quick Question

Postby zingii » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:04 pm

Nabeela wrote:So I'm related to Hawiye? :shock: :P


You didn't know? :shock:

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Nabeela » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:08 pm

zingii wrote:
Nabeela wrote:So I'm related to Hawiye? :shock: :P


You didn't know? :shock:


Wallahi I had no idea, even the thought never crossed my mind. :shock:

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Re: Quick Question

Postby BaasAbuur » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:15 pm

It is very removed though. Darandooleey is the only hawiye in my blood too.

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Twisted_Logic » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:07 pm

BaasAbuur wrote:
CoolPoisons wrote:
BaasAbuur wrote:The subclan was Daud, same subclan as Yalaxoow I believe.


^^ lol and how would U know that

we're talking about 300 years ago


Because I am Bah Darandoole saaxib. But seriously it is common knowledge for those that know about beesha.

Twisted, who are Ugaasyada abgaal? The way I understood, Abgaal divides into Harti and Hintire and Hintire divides into Wacbuudhan and Waceysle. Am I even close? :lol:


They are Daud Wacbudhan. You are right we are divided into Harti and Hintire

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Re: Quick Question

Postby BaasAbuur » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:15 pm

Coolpoison, forget qabiilkay ka dhalate, I even know her name saaxib. Her name was Xalimo Ali Suufi "Kubdheer" ......cida ugaasyada ayay ka dhalate.

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Twisted_Logic » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:50 am

BaasAbuur wrote:Coolpoison, forget qabiilkay ka dhalate, I even know her name saaxib. Her name was Xalimo Ali Suufi "Kubdheer" ......cida ugaasyada ayay ka dhalate.


Interesting...

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Voltage » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:07 am

Twisted, Diini Farah Ugaas had three wives..an Ogaden, a Xawaadle, and a Darandoole. The first three boys including the Ugaases of Sade, reer Ugaas Shermaake were mothered by the Xawaadle woman and one of the sons mothered by the Darandoole lady was Kooshin (Siad Barre's sub-clan of Diini). Together the offspring of the Xawaadle and the Darandoole lady are called "Bah-Hawiye".

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Osobo » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:53 am

First Asc to all and to address BaasAbuur Specifically about the claim that a Daud Lady was the one mentioned as Darandoole is unfounded because Daud only Fathered Two Son's and No Daughter and died very Young. He did not father a daughter at all and Yes iam Daud. :mrgreen:

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Osobo » Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:56 am

BaasAbuur wrote:The subclan was Daud, same subclan as Yalaxoow I believe.


Sorry But You are very wrong because Daud never had a daughter at all. He only Had two Children and both were Male and he died at a very Young age. So Care to share where you have got this info from. :mrgreen:

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Shirib » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:37 pm

Twisted,

Abgaal have an ugaas? I thought they only had an Imaam, and he was Harti, Yacquub if I am not mistaken

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Twisted_Logic » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:44 pm

Shirib wrote:Twisted,

Abgaal have an ugaas? I thought they only had an Imaam, and he was Harti, Yacquub if I am not mistaken


We have both Imam and Ugaas. The Imam is traditionally Harti Abgaal, while the Ugaas is with Wacbudhan, Daud to be specific since they are the eldest son.

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Osobo » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:09 pm

Shirib wrote:Twisted,

Abgaal have an ugaas? I thought they only had an Imaam, and he was Harti, Yacquub if I am not mistaken


Harti Have the Imaam and Wacbudhan have the Ugaas and Malaaq while the Waceysle now have a Sultan.

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Wrong my Dear actually Kabaale is older but Daud Took the Ugaas Position and unlike the Imaam which is not inherited the Ugaas is inhertited though they skip one generation. For example the Current Ugaas father is alive but he wasnt an Ugaas and he inherited from his Grandfather and so he pass'es the Ugaas Position not to his Son but his Oldest Grandson. :mrgreen:

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Re: Quick Question

Postby Twisted_Logic » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:28 pm

Osobo wrote:
Shirib wrote:Twisted,

Abgaal have an ugaas? I thought they only had an Imaam, and he was Harti, Yacquub if I am not mistaken


Harti Have the Imaam and Wacbudhan have the Ugaas and Malaaq while the Waceysle now have a Sultan.

Twisted_Logic

Wrong my Dear actually Kabaale is older but Daud Took the Ugaas Position and unlike the Imaam which is not inherited the Ugaas is inhertited though they skip one generation. For example the Current Ugaas father is alive but he wasnt an Ugaas and he inherited from his Grandfather and so he pass'es the Ugaas Position not to his Son but his Oldest Grandson. :mrgreen:


Oh, I see.

But Daud is older than Kabaale. I am certain about this.


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