Goonjeex is too Wadani to be a PM for The TFG

[Berke]

This guy loves Somalia and knows exactly who its enemies are. For this reason he will not be elected a prime minister of this ineffectual transitional government even when his election would not be a threat to them (those who call the shots) as this government controls nothing and no one.

[snoop12]

indeed he is too Wadani to this fake paper government, but if he gets elected the people of Somalia will do better than if another loser like fatboy was elected.

i hope adeer Goonjeex actually sees TFG for what it is and focuses on helping his people in Caabudwaaq whiles he is with TFG. we have for years not got a penny out of TFG and its time to actually get our share.

[Berke]

I may have spoken too soon. I saw the second part of this video and he seems to be a little too partial towards the crazy suufis.

[snoop12]

Suufiga iidaa ina adeer, adiga dad ka daran baa ku heystee.

[Berke]

Suufiga iidaa ina adeer, adiga dad ka daran baa ku heystee.

Snoop I don't hate the Suufis but I don't support them either. In fact if I had it my way I would probably pick them to rule Somalia over Al Shabab but with one condition. I would require of them to cut ties with Xabashida as I don't want those people having anything to do with how Somalia is run. I have several cousins who are die hard suufis and they are dead-set on believing that it is okay to be friends with the Xabashi. Waan ku kala dhimanaa taas. I will never accept Habeshi intaan noolahay aniga. Al Shabab on the other hand are the biggest enemies of the Xabashi (at least in public) and I give them two thumbs up for that but they are loose cannons and have no direction whatsoever. In fact I believe and I have always believed Al Shabab is a group created by non-muslims.

[snoop12]

i had a similar discussion with Xoogsade and i stick by my argument. i dont believe ASWJ are under the orders of Xabashi, they are self determined group, not everyone who opposes Alshabab is a Xabashi puppet. ASWJ involvement with Xabashi Gov is purely strategic military logistics and does not extend to political agreement. my second point is, ASWJ are not a religious movement but a security force established by the elders and the wadaado of Caabudwaaq who are mostly Suufi.

[Berke]

i had a similar discussion with Xoogsade and i stick by my argumen

t. i dont believe ASWJ are under the orders of Xabashi

, they are self determined group, not everyone who opposes Alshabab is a Xabashi puppet. ASWJ involvement with Xabashi Gov is purely strategic military logistics and does not extend to political agreement. my second point is, ASWJ are not a religious movement but a security force established by the elders and the wadaado of Caabudwaaq who are mostly Suufi.

They are under the direct orders of Xabashi. I am not kidding you saaxib. They are not a free group and fall into the same category as Puntland, Somaliland and the TFG. They are armed by the Xabashi and there is even a special budget the Xabashi government has designated for treating wounded Suufi soldiers. Go to Addis Ababa and you will be shocked. Waxay u shaqeeyaan dawlada Ethiopia. I know it is about survival for them but they do take orders from the Xabashi.

[Murax]

Berke,

Always weigh maslaxada iyo sharta. To be a open enemy of Xabashida is suicide in today's status quo in Somalia. That being said, I'm definitely not saying be their bitch. But I definitely do agree to have normal, neighborly, friendly relations with Xabashida as neighbors. They stay on their side of the border and we stay on our side. Now to get to the specifics, I think what bothers You is the idea of a Government being installed, manipulated by Xabashida and that would have to be stopped, and fought. To Me its relative. If the overall lives of Shacabka is gonna improved by a Government that is Xabashi influenced, I would rather have that than chaos, qas, foodo, barakicin, etc.

[xoogSADE14]

i hope adeer Goonjeex actually sees TFG for what it is and focuses on helping his people in Caabudwaaq whiles he is with TFG.

So Goonjeex's people only live in Caabudwaaq?

[snoop12]

bro as Marexan we were fighting Xabashi as far back as we can remember, and if there is a tribe Xabashi do not like its Marexan. but we didnt fight them blindly with no regard to our surroundings, we were extremely aware of our surrounding political climate, our military capability etc,
Al-itihad Marexans came along who had virtually no understanding of all of these things, and as a result ended with huge loses. i look at the Suufis as a middle stand, they seem to have the right balance when taking into consideration the contemporary issues facing them.

why would we go to the UN controlled by the west at the fight in Wardheer in 1930s ? Marexan ended the ceasefire between British-Somaliland + Ethiopia and Italian-Somaliland and destroyed the Xabashi, but we also whent to the UN and fought them on legal grounds despite starting off a regional war and again destroyed them. if we had not been realistic and made consideration to the world we live in, we would not have gone since the land was ours and the victories could very well be defeats.


but recently we have lost this ability to recognize our position and the foresight we use to have, now were are completely off balance with pride that is not supported with realistic endeavours. this is why i support ASWJ, the only Marexan group whos region is not controlled by other elements.

[Berke]

Berke,

Always weigh maslaxada iyo sharta. To be a open enemy of Xabashida is suicide in today's status quo in Somalia. That being said, I'm definitely not saying be their bitch. But I definitely do agree to have normal, neighborly, friendly relations with Xabashida as neighbors. They stay on their side of the border and we stay on our side. Now to get to the specifics, I think what bothers You is the idea of a Government being installed, manipulated by Xabashida and that would have to be stopped, and fought. To Me its relative. If the overall lives of Shacabka is gonna improved by a Government that is Xabashi influenced, I would rather have that than chaos, qas, foodo, barakicin, etc.

Murux, first of all let me say that I agree with you that one should not rush to decisions and should always play smart in order prevent exposing yourself to danger. Secondly I am not advocating for being neither an open enemy nor a covert one. But having a normal, neighborly, friendly relationship as you put it with the Xabashi is impossible. This is one thing a lot of the Somali politicians either failed to realize or are intentionally ignoring for reasons unbeknownst to me.

Xabashida are imperialistic saaxib and they don't want to be your friend nor your ally but to simply dictate to you and lord over you. So working with them is liking digging a hole and never stopping to realize that you are only working towards your eventual destruction. It would be naive of us to believe that it would be possible to have a Xabashi controlled government of the nature that you described above.

We should look to Ogadenia where our Somali kin live under Xabashi control and that should give us an indication of what that is like. People there live in constant fear and although the Xabashi are not even physically present there their cold hearted Somali goons are and they have made the lives of the people impossible. If living under Xabashi would bring nabad and improve the lives of the people then there would never be groups like ONLF fighting, against all odds, the second largest army in Africa.

All I am saying is, we should always remember who they are and never work with them against the interest of our people as everyone is doing these days. And the best way to do that is to not work with them at all and if that renders you an enemy of the Xabeshi without your choosing then let it be.

[abdirisak22]

This guy loves Somalia and knows exactly who its enemies are. For this reason he will not be elected a prime minister of this ineffectual transitional government even when his election would not be a threat to them (those who call the shots) as this government controls nothing and no one.

I dont question your rationality? isnt he working with TFG now, if what u said is correct he wouldnt be under Macalin dugsi or sharrif.

[EEGA9]

Berke waa wadani number 1, thats what Somalis need Mawqif to stand by which is missing today.This toleration of Xabashida interfering in Somali affairs is one of the major factors why the situation in Somalia will never settle, Why does every Somali leader whether he controls a small maamul gobleed like Galmudug or Puntland or the TFG must make a pilgrimage atleast 3 times every 6 months to addis ababa a rival state which has done nothing but fuel violence and sectarianism in Somalia.This lack of wadaninimo among the Somali's is frustrating and really a very sad chapter in Somalia, they cant recognise there enemies because the have enmity for eachother before they have enmity for anything else.The Suufis and the various warlords been trained by Ethiopia to fight Shabab are nothing but future pawns Ethiopia will use to weaken and further divide Somalia and in the mean time serve as tools to curb the Shabab movement There is no favour been traded here.Meles is a master politician, a very calculative and shrewed individual who holds 80 million people hostage through ingenious tactics which he employs.A stable Somalia with a nationalist leaning will be a disaster for Meles because that would almost defeat his regime in a matter of years, Somalis need to re-discover there national identity and there national interest.

We should look to Ogadenia where our Somali kin live under Xabashi control and that should give us an indication of what that is like. People there live in constant fear and although the Xabashi are not even physically present there their cold hearted Somali goons are and they have made the lives of the people impossible. If living under Xabashi would bring nabad and improve the lives of the people then there would never be groups like ONLF fighting, against all odds, the second largest army in Africa.

50,000 plus troops is a huge presence sxb across the Ogaden but you are correct here nevertheless.

[grandpakhalif]

We are ASWJ, anyone who opposes us is opposing reer cabudwaaq. I've noticed its mostly reer gedo who are insulting us.