Jubbade Dhexe

[grandpakhalif]

Saakow waxa iskalay reer miyihi Talxe malanwalbe bay meeshas aadan. Inta kale wa Sheeqaal iyo Marexaan isladegan. Ogadeenkii Buaale kili ayey degan. Xita meeshi reer miyihi bay ka cararayn iyo lo'dood la xaday. Sawiirkan bal fiiri
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According to the Italian General Commissariat for Jubbaland, three major clans possessed a significant camel stock in Jubbaland (1925), they were

1. Talxe (Mareexaan) -167,000 Camels

2. Bartire (Absame) - 93,000 Camels

3. Cawliyahan (Absame) - 50,000 Camels

4. Clans living around the coast (Bajuuni) - 5,000 Camels

Waxaad ka muujinaysa sawiirka Talxe waa kuwa ugu badan sanadkii 1925. Imagine now? Wa impossible in Ogadeenkii ka badan Marexaan in Jubbada dhexe

[grandpakhalif]

Walaahi dadkan waa funny,oo hada ma jubada dhexe ayaa somalinet lagu xalaleesan

Bu,aale...............Absame/Ogaadeen.

Saakow................Absame/Ogaadeen iyo Raxaweyn.

Jilib.......Absame (Ogaadeen, weyteen) Galjecel, iyo Shekhaal.

Mareerey..............Absame/Ogadeen.

Salagle...............Ogaadeen.

Theres not a inch of land that ilkayar settle when it comes to jubada dhexe,but if dreams come true via the net,than iyagaa daga

Bal firi wuxuuna la so shir tagay, OLDENGLISH QORAALKIIS inalillah

[new-york24]

Am not here to argue with you about my land,it was ment to educate you thats all.The proof is on the ground,but for you internet children the proof is in the history books

"different clans and ethnic groups often involve these key environmental resources. Prior to the
changes of 1991 the Siad Barre regime awarded certain client groups preferential access to arable
land and water, an ill-advised practice that will be discussed later in the article. Indeed, the
Somalia case is a good example of ethnic (and clan) favoritism where private land grabbing in the
Jubba Valley favored the late president’s clan, the Marehan, while alienating other groups
(Menkhaus and Craven 1996; Besteman 1999). It also heightened already existing social tensions
between pastoralists and settled farmers who both depended on the valley.
The two most important clan groups in the border region are the Ogadeen and the Harti
(especially its Majerteyn clan).3 Their significance is reflected in demographic, economic, and
political terms. The Ogadeen, especially its Mohammed Zubeyr sub-clan but also including the
Aulihan and Abdwak, are the majority group and greatly outnumber the Harti in the region.4
They have been in the area since at least the mid-nineteenth century"

[new-york24]

Why axmed cumar jees and the spm were needed,they were being sent to hargeisa while bare and his clan steal the land.Y ou cannot blind people anymore.Again history is recorded,no one can change history through some forum.

These new water resources, as well as the pull of being closer to Kismayo town, attracted
herders from the Upper Jubba area (Gedo Region), particularly camel herders from President
Barre's Marehan clan. The discontent among herders in the Lower Jubba Region took on new
dimensions when confronted with aggressive encroachments on their water and pasture resources
from the Marehan. Many Marehan camel herders from the Gedo Region of the upper Jubba
Valley migrated to take advantage of (1) the improved water availability financed under the TJLP
and (2) pastures seasonally vacated by cattle herders. When the Ogadeen cattle pastoralists
abandoned their seasonal grazing areas each year, camel herders would move in and occupy
them. After a period of about four years some Marehan herders decided to remain in the area for
most of the year, in effect becoming permanent residents.
The process accelerated in late 1988 when Marehan herders began to spontaneously
"privatize" water points and surrounding pastures by demarcating them with thorn fences. As
was noted earlier, this pattern of encroachment was facilitated by the expansion of water points
built under the TJLP venture. Aided by the confidence that any disputes with other groups of
herders would be resolved in their favor, the Marehan took advantage of the situation. After all,
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they were members of President Barre's clan and could invoke strong political support if needed.Cattle owners of Afmadow also claimed that the large presence of camels was turning their
excellent grasslands into shrub land. Because camels mainly consume browse and bush species,
they were said to promulgate bush encroachment by passing seeds of woody species through their
manure, thereby turning cattle pastures into unproductive land.
The increased presence of camel herders resulted in several conflicts between Marehan
and Ogadeen herders, especially those of the Mohamed Zubeyr sub-clan. By the summer of 1988
it was common to hear of armed skirmishes between Marahen and local Ogadeen herders at water
points in the region. When Colonel Omar Jess, a member of the Mohamed Zubeyr sub-clan of
the Ogadeen but not from the Lower Jubba Region, helped to mobilize the area's armed resistance
to the Barre regime in the late 1980s, these tensions erupted in large-scale fighting, and the
Somali army was called in to punish the "rebels" and to protect the Marehan migrants. One rebel
leader's account of the clashes in 1989 points to the conflicts caused by the movement of outside
herders into the area:
"We of the Lower Juba Province particularly protested against the increased infiltration
by people from the neighbouring Gedo region, who were in turn crossing into Kenya to
partake in poaching activities in the Kenya national parks and highway banditry," Major
Barre [no relation to President Barre] explained. . . . But the Absame [Ogadeen]
tribesmen who predominantly inhabit the Lower Juba Province were soon accused of
oppressively flushing out Siad Barre's own Marehan community and that was the
beginning of the whole in-fighting episode (Kenya Standard, August 16, 1989, p. 10).

[grandpakhalif]

Fiction and anti kacaan rhetoric, the article itself says Jess was nort even from Jubbaland he was just a mad bitter loser whose cousin was sacked he didn't care less about Ogadeen. He just used anti kacaan rhetoric to use you. What a gun who sides with Hutuda

[new-york24]

You dont have to digest it,just let it burn

[mahdi01]

It is amazing no one mentioned up until 1978 Jubada dhexe did not existed and was part of Gedo region and its capital was Garbaharey.

Jubbada dhexe was created after large people were resettled from 1974 Draughts of the north, northeast and parts of mudug, villages like Dajuuma, Mayondo, Hargeysa yareey, Mareerey and even Bu’aale and many more did not existed before 1974, only Saakow which was part of Gedo existed before that date and Jilib was part of Jubbada hoose until 1978 when it was incorporated to Jubada dhexe.

Prior to that the land was pastoral bushes divided three clans two clans were nomads while the third was mix of nomadic and farming, Raxanweyn in Saakow area were farmers and Absame and Marehan were the Nomads, after Kenya started clan parliamentarian system Cawlyahan which was the Bulk of the Absame in the area left because they had to protect their seat in Garisa in Kenya, Since then they did not returned and the land they abandoned were settled other clans mostly Mareexaan subclans in the area.

Now jubbada dhexe consists in three districts the two biggest are Saakow and Jilib, Bu’aale which is the capital of the region is much smaller than the two others, since the resettlement of 1974 the region hosted mix of clans from the north and central Somalia that government gave farms and most of them still remain the land till today, there is a village between saakow and Bu’aale were close to 50% of the residents are Xawaadle, also the villages of Hargeysa yareey and mareerey is the home of reer Isaaq subclan of Ogaadeen from dhagaxbuur that were resettled there after the wars with Ethiopia 1978, and if you talk to them today you can easily understand their northern Qaldaan accent which differs from the typical waamo accent in the area

[Murax]

Mahid,

You know a lot about Jubbaland

[The_Patriot]

Mahid,

You know a lot about Jubbaland

there is nothing about jubadha dhexe he knows he mixes lies with the truth making it digestable.
The thing is not all Cawlihan moved to NFD nor was it to get sits.

The exodus had come about when MSB created Talxa liberation front and had involved in attrocities around the juba and thats one of the prime reasons that the cawliyahan moved temporarily not from J/dhexe but from Gedo.

Secondly most of Gedo is arid and is annualy hit by draught so they are always allowed to come during the drought and later have to return to Gedo.

Seeng livestock of Marexan in Afmadow does not mean that they leave in it so does it apply to the other regions.

[mudugawi]

Walaalayaal dhulkeena inaga badan. Walahi Kismaayo kaliya ayaa Somaliweyn la dajinkaraa oo wali boos banaan la heli karaa. Dhulka wa dhul Somaaliyeed , bulshada ma kala marmaan in la isdhexgalo oo si walaaltinimo iyo xushmad iyo sharaf kudhex noolaano jubooyinka iyo Somalia oo dhan maxaa inoo diiday. Somaliya ha noolaato, ilahoow umadeena jahilnimada kabaxi, amin

[The_Patriot]

Walaalayaal dhulkeena inaga badan. Walahi Kismaayo kaliya ayaa Somaliweyn la dajinkaraa oo wali boos banaan la heli karaa. Dhulka wa dhul Somaaliyeed , bulshada ma kala marmaan in la isdhexgalo oo si walaaltinimo iyo xushmad iyo sharaf kudhex noolaano jubooyinka iyo Somalia oo dhan maxaa inoo diiday. Somaliya ha noolaato, ilahoow umadeena jahilnimada kabaxi, amin

mudugawi we are not concerned about Somalia

We are concerned about who runs parts SNET Niche.

I mean your kins always follow us even if we ditch talking about issues in Gedo section, J/hoose. J/Dhexe

The MOFOS will be in the Ogaden section

I mean the worst thing would be an Ilkoyar running the Ogaden section thats why we have to kick some @ss