Marehan ancestral DNA test

[Adali]

Adali Sxb don't be paranoid, and i heard it cost a couple'hundred pounds.

I'm not paranoid I thought it was cheap like 20 quit so I thought why not take it,but i guess not, wtf a couple of hundred pounds bon dat.

[abdirisak22]

DNA test how much $ wise?

[grandpakhalif]

I'm willing to do it but If I don't receive a J1 test result I will forever sad.

[Murax]

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key ... utput=html




James Dahl that Cadaan (Adopted Iljeex Guy) compiled a spreadsheet of everybodys results here and put Me in a categorey as "Warsangeli". Apparantly I shared the same codes as 2 Warsangeli and 1 Majerteen who was really that Dawwa9 kid who I hope did not slit his wrists for getting Cushitic Arab DNA. The nerve of that Dahl Guy putting me in a categorey saying I'm a fish head when My subclan right next to my name says Marexaan. Still though He had no choice because no other MR took the test. Either way the fact that according to the results I share a anscestor in the last 1000-2000 years with a Bicidyahan, MJ and 2 Warsangelis who live thousands of kilometres away from Me did lead Me to believe that Darood definitely did exist as otherwise there is no way we'd share a anscestor since we live so far apart. It also led me to believe that Darood but was not some Runaway Arab but a Cushitic from the Horn of Africa. Suits Me just fine anyway, I'm proud to know at least My anscestor had a home and was not exiled out of His land for stealing a damn shoe wtf?




Let Me know when You get Your results, although I suspect You are that Snoop kid, who I wasn't sure was Marexaan anyway.

[Adali]

1-2000 years, that does not only determine the validity of Marehan lineage but also the entire Darood. And it still does not disprove that Darood could have been Arab since the E1b1b1a1b Haplogroup is also found in Arabian peninsula.

If such a thing as out of Africa theory is widely accepted why can we accept the Somali Darood theory of Back to Africa ??

[Murax]

1-2000 years, that does not only determine the validity of Marehan lineage but also the entire Darood. And it still does not disprove that Darood could have been Arab since the E1b1b1a1b Haplogroup is also found in Arabian peninsula.

If such a thing as out of Africa theory is widely accepted why can we accept the Somali Darood theory of Back to Africa ??

To find out how much of a match You are I think You have to pay more money to get the 30th dys code or something like that. Me and those guys were matches on the first 12 which shows we definitely share a anscestor within that frame, but to find out how recent You have to pay more. Plus there is no point unless You get perhaps 5 ppl to do it with You.


According to the Spreadsheet there is a Ogadeen DNA, Majerteen DNA and since no other MR's took it a Warsangeli DNA with me lumped into that. So far it looks like a big mess from a Darood perspective as How can I share closer DNA to a Warsangeli than MJ's?

[Based]

According to my sources, 23&me will be having a discount within the next couple of weeks.

[Adali]

where can I order the test kit, and how much does it cost to test for the last 1000 years or even less. I get that the point is to compare so of course other people should do it too, that is why I encourage more Marehan members to take the test.

any links to websites regarding this would be appreciated..

Edit: we don't have to share it with James Dahl.

[Murax]

where can I order the test kit, and how much does it cost to test for the last 1000 years or even less. I get that the point is to compare so of course other people should do it too, that is why I encourage more Marehan members to take the test.

any links to websites regarding this would be appreciated..

Edit: we don't have to share it with James Dahl.

National Geographic something. Before Oil, DNA was the biggest hot topic on Snet who knows what it will be next

Anyways take it with a grain of salt. Even if My DNA is diff from every MR out there it wouldn't make much of a difference as far as I'm concerned.

[Avicenna]

I remember the DNA wars on the forum.

Brilliant days.

[Advo]

According to my sources, 23&me will be having a discount within the next couple of weeks.

I did mine through them for FREE.....the best thing about them is NOT the dna test, it's ur health.

The stuff they tell u about urself is " " worth, I am still amazed at how they can tell that amount of information just from saliva

[Mustafee101]

I think we Reer Garaads are Caucasians.

[Adali]

Murax, genealogical time frame means you share common ancestors within within a 1000 years, I have no idea where you got the 2000 thousand years from, maybe you could explain that.

I looked at the spreadsheet again after some research and it appears you took the Y-DNA12 test which tells you who you share common ancestry within a 1000 years, and all the Daroods who are on the spreadsheet share either 12/12 markers or 11/12 with you which is within the genealogical time frame of a 1000 years. Hyper is the most distant to you, he shares 11/12 markers with some of the Majerten but only 10/12 markers with the rest of the Daroods. Even though Hyper is the only Darood to share 10/12 with other Daroods, he is still Darood.

Explanation:
You and Hyper, you claim same tribe Darood but your 2 marks different out of the 12. This could mean that both you and Hyper each had a mutation in one of your markers, your not suppose to have 2 markers that are different. the only way to prove that it was only a mutation is to find a line of of Other Daroods who are the 'in betweener' to you guys, meaning that line must share 11/12 with both you and Hyper. luckily this line is also present in the spreadsheet, there are two Majerten who share 11/12 with both you and Hyper and thus act as the in betweener. So you and Hyper are related within the last 1000 years and you do not need to take futher 13 marker test to prove this or to prove that both of you are Darood.

Additional: You and Hyper differ in two DYS markers known to mismatch as they tend to mutate, they are the DYS358 and the DYS389ii.


In conclusion: Darood is pretty much proven, although there are 3 other Daroods participants who have different unrelated sequences, one is Dawwa, the other is an unknown Warsangili and the third is an Ogaden. but the rest of the Darood are all related within less than a 1000 years, which means so far the existence of Darood is 7/9 which is roughly 80% reliable.

Since the existence of Daroods is proven, we can proceed onto scientifically proving the existence of Marehan, all we need is minimum two Marehan taking the Y-DNA25 which shows an extra 13 markers, those extra 13 markers should be different from the Harti's extra 13 markers but the two Marehan participants should have identical extra 13 markers.

there are several discounts and possibly even free Y-DNA12 test. but you have to look for different projects that offer discounts or free test. but then you have to upgrade to the Y-DNA25 which cost 49$ I think.
List of Projects.

• 23andMe projects
  Family Finder projects
  Genealogical society projects
  Geographical DNA projects
  mtDNA haplogroup projects
  New DNA projects
  Null projects
  Special DNA projects
  Surname DNA projects
  Walk through the Y projects
  Y-DNA haplogroup projects

if you buy the Y-DNA25 straightaway it will cost 125$

[James Dahl]

Yeah don't take the labels I put on haplogroups too seriously, they're semi-arbitrary.

The Warsangeli group I could just as well have called the "Generic Daarood" group, in fact maybe I should rename it that

[Adali]

Yeah don't take the labels I put on haplogroups too seriously, they're semi-arbitrary.

The Warsangeli group I could just as well have called the "Generic Daarood" group, in fact maybe I should rename it that

Yes you should do that, and also put Hyper under Darood, read my post to know why, all the Daroods are recently related within the genealogical time frame of 1000 years which is roughly the age of Darood himself.

do not include the last Ogaden guy, he is probably Warday, Oromo, Rahanweyn etc there are some non-Daroods who assimilate into Ogaden in Lower/Middle Jubba and Bakool regions.


It would be interesting to see Leelkase, Dhulbahante and more Marehan taking the test, traditionally they boast about their Darood roots the most.