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Nothing but failure, death, destruction, more refugees, etc. Walle kan Cool Poison waa xaasid
its always the same fkers that cheerlead for each other. Waxaana ka hadlaya Murax, Voltage iyo AdvoSince this has already started, I actually wish Shabaab firmly and once and for all vanquishes the Dollow group neuteralizing them so they never attempt such folly again. Once and for all, may Shabaab destroy them for good so they have zero ability to put anything together again. Haa wada tagaan where ever they want to go but far away from being the carriers of war to people who do not need it.
and Aqil Warsame101my family is also Rer Beledxaawo, they are immediate family, my uncle and his son's wife, they moved out immediately as the fighting started and my cousin just swiftly returned a few days ago to retrieve some of their belongings and he discovered his shop was destroyed along with my uncles house which was home to all of them, the only thing that was left intact for them was a house that was in the process of being build for my cousin and his wife. i think its sad that when we do discuss politics that one party thinks its acceptable to take the moral high grounds and accuse the other party of emotional disregard to score cheap points, to the real Reer Beledxaawo and to those who actually do have family there, all it proves to us is that some people are willing to sink really low in the support of their group, some even regionalising Mareexaan into Gedo, Galgaduud etc this is really sick and divisive.
Voltage wrote:Since this has already started, I actually wish Shabaab firmly and once and for all vanquishes the Dollow group neuteralizing them so they never attempt such folly again. Once and for all, may Shabaab destroy them for good so they have zero ability to put anything together again. Haa wada tagaan where ever they want to go but far away from being the carriers of war to people who do not need it.
that is your prerogative, just have some principle and stop this pretentious emotional rhetoric, you have no arguement at all. but you do showcase low morals.
Archerr wrote:Nothing exactly. I doubt this war is over though. In time when one group is fully defeated - unable to launch attacks anymore - then we will be able to fully evaluate what the gains and losses of the this war are.
i totally agree, bullets are still flying and we cant draw conclusion, the best outcome would be that Alkalab is destroyed once and for all and the rest of the liberation be a walk through the park with minimal casualty and destruction.
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=270913Some of the old-timers here need to be really carefull how they word their words. Opposing the Doolow group for any reason is acceptable but to categorize them as Mooryaans or Fitnah or even selectively applying an Islaamic princple against them is something that borders to ad hominem and I won't accept that.
This topic explains the confusional state of some of the members here, hiding behind usual pseudo-moral high ground whilst attempting to discret the Doolow group supporters as merely infants with no legitimate ties to Gedo. This is not a kids' playground where one can slur ad hominem coupled with "this is wrong" interjections and except that you somehow made a valid point.
In any war, there are always casualties, irrespective of its scale. The Doolow group consisting of local legitimate administrations that Reer Jubbaland had set-up were ejected, from their own regions, by al-Shabaab. They have suffered casualties whilst the regions that they were representing was held hostage by Abu Mansuur and co. They have camped in Doolow for over three years, surely logic dictates that that they were going to counter-attack at any time. It is nothing that happend out of whims.
Reer Gedo have lost thousands of their youth in the forceful conscriptions sent to Xamar, yet there was no outcry, Reer Gedo had to endure this year a drought that that they have never experienced before since al-Shabaab banned the local aid agencies from providing the usual annual relieve, yet there was no outcry, Reer Gedo youth had to endure random decapitations and be dictated by some foreign officials. Haven't we learned anything from the al-Itixaad saga?
When the Doolow group attempts to relieve them from these impositions, suddenly the long-awaited outcry is directed at them.
One should know that this mis-directed outcry is not something that is new from Mareexaan, it was repeated in the Gedo USC-SNF wars when Barre Hiiraale attacked Gedo to dislodge the Caydiid militia, there were Mareexaans who made the usual uproar that some of you are making now.
Similiarly when Barre Hiiraale removed the Morgan coalition in Kismaayo.
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He pretty much said the same thing wallahi. He said before with the insecurity in Somali side, most rer Beled-Xaawo would base their business and earnings in Mandera which is why the Kenyans would periodically shut the border as a way to have influence in pricing and business. Now that Beled-Xaawo is seeing this transformation, all the capital and business is flowing back in Beled-Xaawo as a base which is why the Kenyans will not close the border anymore. I remember Baskash Jug soo dhacay on the BBC during the recent squabble in Mandera was asked have the Kenyans closed the border and he said no because the lifeline of northeast Kenya is through Beled-Xaawo.As for the tread definitely b xaawo is growing in importance. Kenya doesnt keep the birder open out if the goodness of their heart but due to the fact that reer mandeera depend in b xaawo for a lit of essentials.
Some of the trade with neighbouring Ethiopia and Kenya takes the form of recorded trade via official crossing-points at Belet Hawa and El Waq on the border with Kenya and at Dolo on the border with Ethiopia. Considerable unofficial trade is also engaged in across the borders with both Kenya and Ethiopia. Extensive small trading goes on in all towns and villages as well.
Kenneth Menkhaus, Assistant Professor at Davidson College/UNDOS consultant, considered the Gedo region's economy to be in reasonably good shape and described trade in the region as "booming". Traders in Gedo made more profit than, for instance, those in Hargeisa, in north-western Somalia (Somaliland). He pointed out that the Gedo region was a centre for brisk trading between Somalia and Kenya or Ethiopia. Large quantities of goods were brought from Mogadishu to Bardera by lorry. Bardera, being the largest town in the Gedo region, formed the centre of that trade, with active flows of funds both from abroad and to and from Mogadishu...
...While in Luuq, the delegation visited a transhipment centre for imported goods from Mogadishu. The centre contained a number of trucks from Mogadishu, from which goods were transferred to what were referred to as "Marehan trucks". These then took goods on to destinations in Gedo. Luuq District Council reported that it had begun taxing trade in the area. Goods from Mogadishu and livestock transactions were taxed, with the tax revenue being used for purposes including police pay.
Voltage inaad hypocrite tahay waxaad ku gareeeysa how U were angry when Jale Bare Hirale liberated Beled Hawo from Shiskabab
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and now that Beled Hawo is coming back Ur happy. FAKER FOQAL FAKER
Nothing but failure, death, destruction, more refugees, etc. Walle kan Cool Poison waa xaasidits always the same fkers that cheerlead for each other. Waxaana ka hadlaya Murax, Voltage iyo AdvoSince this has already started, I actually wish Shabaab firmly and once and for all vanquishes the Dollow group neuteralizing them so they never attempt such folly again. Once and for all, may Shabaab destroy them for good so they have zero ability to put anything together again. Haa wada tagaan where ever they want to go but far away from being the carriers of war to people who do not need it.
Adali waa rageedi. he wrote
and Aqil Warsame101my family is also Rer Beledxaawo, they are immediate family, my uncle and his son's wife, they moved out immediately as the fighting started and my cousin just swiftly returned a few days ago to retrieve some of their belongings and he discovered his shop was destroyed along with my uncles house which was home to all of them, the only thing that was left intact for them was a house that was in the process of being build for my cousin and his wife. i think its sad that when we do discuss politics that one party thinks its acceptable to take the moral high grounds and accuse the other party of emotional disregard to score cheap points, to the real Reer Beledxaawo and to those who actually do have family there, all it proves to us is that some people are willing to sink really low in the support of their group, some even regionalising Mareexaan into Gedo, Galgaduud etc this is really sick and divisive.
Voltage wrote:Since this has already started, I actually wish Shabaab firmly and once and for all vanquishes the Dollow group neuteralizing them so they never attempt such folly again. Once and for all, may Shabaab destroy them for good so they have zero ability to put anything together again. Haa wada tagaan where ever they want to go but far away from being the carriers of war to people who do not need it.
that is your prerogative, just have some principle and stop this pretentious emotional rhetoric, you have no arguement at all. but you do showcase low morals.
Archerr wrote:Nothing exactly. I doubt this war is over though. In time when one group is fully defeated - unable to launch attacks anymore - then we will be able to fully evaluate what the gains and losses of the this war are.
i totally agree, bullets are still flying and we cant draw conclusion, the best outcome would be that Alkalab is destroyed once and for all and the rest of the liberation be a walk through the park with minimal casualty and destruction.
Re: What was gained from the war in Beled-Xaawo?
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=270913Some of the old-timers here need to be really carefull how they word their words. Opposing the Doolow group for any reason is acceptable but to categorize them as Mooryaans or Fitnah or even selectively applying an Islaamic princple against them is something that borders to ad hominem and I won't accept that.
This topic explains the confusional state of some of the members here, hiding behind usual pseudo-moral high ground whilst attempting to discret the Doolow group supporters as merely infants with no legitimate ties to Gedo. This is not a kids' playground where one can slur ad hominem coupled with "this is wrong" interjections and except that you somehow made a valid point.
In any war, there are always casualties, irrespective of its scale. The Doolow group consisting of local legitimate administrations that Reer Jubbaland had set-up were ejected, from their own regions, by al-Shabaab. They have suffered casualties whilst the regions that they were representing was held hostage by Abu Mansuur and co. They have camped in Doolow for over three years, surely logic dictates that that they were going to counter-attack at any time. It is nothing that happend out of whims.
Reer Gedo have lost thousands of their youth in the forceful conscriptions sent to Xamar, yet there was no outcry, Reer Gedo had to endure this year a drought that that they have never experienced before since al-Shabaab banned the local aid agencies from providing the usual annual relieve, yet there was no outcry, Reer Gedo youth had to endure random decapitations and be dictated by some foreign officials. Haven't we learned anything from the al-Itixaad saga?
When the Doolow group attempts to relieve them from these impositions, suddenly the long-awaited outcry is directed at them.
One should know that this mis-directed outcry is not something that is new from Mareexaan, it was repeated in the Gedo USC-SNF wars when Barre Hiiraale attacked Gedo to dislodge the Caydiid militia, there were Mareexaans who made the usual uproar that some of you are making now.
Similiarly when Barre Hiiraale removed the Morgan coalition in Kismaayo.
Coolpoison caadi ma tihid. Muruxna fiiri suu voltage ugu dabadhaqo We just need a proper admin to conduct public works such as road and infrastructure development.
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