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Kismayo Issue

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby Substance » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:01 pm

yeah came to figure out you can only be Murax.
but why did you change your nick?
Why do you copy Voltage.

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Im not either of those guys, Im must dealing with some retard here. Im substance. Just accept it.

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby Substance » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:10 pm

more like the hawiye confederation of clan including mareehan...saxxib in the south hawiyes out number us 10-1 so we obviously cant challenge them in their own back yard just like they cant challenge us in the north. When you stop living under the shaddow of hawiye then come at us...wallahi to tell you the truth I really dont care that much when it comes to kismayo and from what my brother in law tells me you guys dont run shit in that city. when I buy the land from him maybe ill start actually giving a fuck.
Whatever dude, you just cant accept defeat apperently when it comes at the hand of marehan. Lets face it some simple facts.
You are irrelevant in the jubbas. Marehan are the strongest clan there.
Dont say wallahi on stuff like that, thats nonense, if one just search your posting historic it shows how much you care about kismayu and your hatred for Besha Sade. Next time keep ur dreams to yourself, because it wont happen.

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Postby mody21 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:15 pm

more like the hawiye confederation of clan including mareehan...saxxib in the south hawiyes out number us 10-1 so we obviously cant challenge them in their own back yard just like they cant challenge us in the north. When you stop living under the shaddow of hawiye then come at us...wallahi to tell you the truth I really dont care that much when it comes to kismayo and from what my brother in law tells me you guys dont run shit in that city. when I buy the land from him maybe ill start actually giving a fuck.
Whatever dude, you just cant accept defeat apperently when it comes at the hand of marehan. Lets face it some simple facts.
You are irrelevant in the jubbas. Marehan are the strongest clan there.
Dont say wallahi on stuff like that, thats nonense, if one just search your posting historic it shows how much you care about kismayu and your hatred for Besha Sade. Next time keep ur dreams to yourself, because it wont happen.
saxiib marehan never defeated anyone wallahi if not for the hawiye they would have never been able to take kismayo if you dont believe me ask them...just look at the map of somalia look at puntland and look at where kismayo is located and you will see why we were defeated... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Substance » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:24 pm

saxiib marehan never defeated anyone wallahi if not for the hawiye they would have never been able to take kismayo if you dont believe me ask them...just look at the map of somalia look at puntland and look at where kismayo is located and you will see why we were defeated... :lol: :lol: :lol:
You should stay put in Puntland, dont bother about Kismayu. Leave that to us, Still you are coming with bad excuses. :mrgreen: :down:

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Postby mody21 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:27 pm

saxiib marehan never defeated anyone wallahi if not for the hawiye they would have never been able to take kismayo if you dont believe me ask them...just look at the map of somalia look at puntland and look at where kismayo is located and you will see why we were defeated... :lol: :lol: :lol:
You should stay put in Puntland, dont bother about Kismayu. Leave that to us, Still you are coming with bad excuses. :mrgreen: :down:
its all good saxib majeerteen never lot go of their properties and what belongs to them by hook or by crook we shall get back what ever belongs to us in kismayo...Even if we are out numbered we are never outsmarted, if ogadens cant do it, hawiyes will do it dont take majeerteen so light my friend kista will always be our city.

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby Substance » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:35 pm

its all good saxib majeerteen never lot go of their properties and what belongs to them by hook or by crook she shall get back what ever belongs to us in kismayo...Even if we are out numbered we are never outsmarted, if ogadens cant do it, hawiyes will do it dont take majeerteen so light my friend kista will always be our city.
Whats belongs to invidual should be returned, but dont act like troll here and think you can claim Kismayu as yours.
Saxib, put the braggin of side, we know majeerten, and they are no theat to us.

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby Nomand » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:36 pm

why r you guys feeding trolls?

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Postby mody21 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:40 pm

its all good saxib majeerteen never lot go of their properties and what belongs to them by hook or by crook she shall get back what ever belongs to us in kismayo...Even if we are out numbered we are never outsmarted, if ogadens cant do it, hawiyes will do it dont take majeerteen so light my friend kista will always be our city.
Whats belongs to invidual should be returned, but dont act like troll here and think you can claim Kismayu as yours.
Saxib, put the braggin of side, we know majeerten, and they are no theat to us.
cool story bro that why every other day you scream at teh top of you lung how kista is yours....just remember youve been inhabiting the city no longer than 20 years ...That aint shit saxiib.

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby Substance » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:54 pm

cool story bro that why every other day you scream at teh top of you lung how kista is yours....just remember youve been inhabiting the city no longer than 20 years ...That aint shit saxiib.
I told you before and telling you again, Kismayu is multican city, but people like you dont accept and deny Marehans their share, then we have a problem.

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby Substance » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:55 pm

why r you guys feeding trolls?
Im just tired of the anti-sade Bullshit he makes.

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby whitehartlane » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:44 pm

substance, dude u know very well the threat MJ is, otherwise you wouldnt put 5 times down that you are willing to share kismaayo, so to say that MJ's are pretty insignificant in the jubba's is kind of ludicrous.. put it this way bro, anything that concerns MJ, we make sure we participate, we are soo deep into xamar that some wouldnt be surprised if an MJ man became the mayor of tht city, ..hargeisa can not sit down with villa somalia without our presence, galmudug officials can not fly anywhere without the approval from u kno who, bro as a matter of fact we are the godfather of AZANIA, .and to be honest with you, 75% of those things dont really effect mj's, so imagine the interest we have in kismayo and how far we would go for our interest to be met...mareexaans are our brothers, but dont get ahead of yourself, there is no way u can force yourself on kismaayo... its planned to be the breadbasket of puntland.. its harti city with MJ in the driving seat..

there is no need for bullets to be fired, there is a reason we have prime ministers and president positions...we are a very persuasive folks..

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Postby mody21 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:48 pm

substance, dude u know very well the threat MJ is, otherwise you wouldnt put 5 times down that you are willing to share kismaayo, so to say that MJ's are pretty insignificant in the jubba's is kind of ludicrous.. put it this way bro, anything that concerns MJ, we make sure we participate, we are soo deep into xamar that some wouldnt be surprised if an MJ man became the mayor of tht city, ..hargeisa can not sit down with villa somalia without our presence, galmudug officials can not fly anywhere without the approval from u kno who, bro as a matter of fact we are the godfather of AZANIA, .and to be honest with you, 75% of those things dont really effect mj's, so imagine the interest we have in kismayo and how far we would go for our interest to be met...mareexaans are our brothers, but dont get ahead of yourself, there is no way u can force yourself on kismaayo... its planned to be the breadbasket of puntland.. its harti city with MJ in the driving seat..

there is no need for bullets to be fired, there is a reason we have prime ministers and president positions...we are a very persuasive folks..
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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby The_Patriot » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:49 pm

Why Kismayu is the war trophy
By NYAMBEGA GISESA Ngisesa@ke.nationmedia.com
Posted Saturday, June 9 2012 at 22:40

When the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) made an incursion into Somalia last October, Al-Shabaab spokesman Ali Mohamud Rage told the BBC:

“Kenya doesn’t know war. We know war. We have fought against governments older and stronger than Kenya and we have defeated them.”

From history, Mr Rage’s words were true. In the last 20 years, Somali fighters have fought and defeated UN and US special forces and Ethiopian troops.

But the reality is different now; Al-Shabaab is besieged in Kismayu after losing a number of key towns. The KDF, whom Sheikh Rage chided, are nearing Biibi town, about 75 kilometres from Kismayu.

Although the Kenyan troops are fighting together with the Somali National Army (SNA) and the Sheikh Ahmed Madobe-led Ras Kamboni Brigade stationed in Sector Two where Kismayu falls, sources intimate that the assault on Kismayu might involve all the forces within the African Union Mission on Somalia (Amisom), namely Uganda, Djibouti, Burundi and even Sierra Leone which is expected to send troops this month.

“We have made advances after capturing one of their key strongholds Afmadow and we are on the way to Kismayu. But the decision on when to take over Kismayu will be made by Amisom,” KDF’s spokesperson, Colonel Cyrus Oguna, told the Sunday Nation.

While addressing journalists at his presidential palace in Villa Somalia last month, President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed said that capturing all towns under the control of Al-Shabaab remained a key goal in bringing lasting peace to the Horn of Africa nation, which has been lawless since 1991.

Previous attempts at capturing Kismayu have ended in bloodbath. In the Jubba regions of southern Somalia bordering Kenya – Lower Jubba, Middle Jubba, and Gedo – there have been persistent fights over land, towns and cities with Kismayu being the epicentre of political and militia elite hoping to control the vast riches of the region.
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Disparate claims by the clans about their rights to the sea town have been part of the reason Kismayu has remained contested for over 20 years. Kismayu is the third largest city in Somalia and the administrative city for lower Jubba. It has one of the largest ports in Somalia.

The Islamic Courts Union (ICU) rushed to seize control of Kismayu, ousting warlord Barre Hiraale who had controlled it for many years in September 2006.

Ethiopian troops and the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) also rushed to take control of Kismayu from ICU in early 2007.

The Al-Shabaab also charged for Kismayu in August 2008, emerging victors after three days of fighting and went on to immediately impose their strict interpretation of Shariah law.

The main economic activity in Kismayu is the import and export of goods through the port with charcoal as the main export commodity. Selling of khat is also a big business while farming is practised in the outskirts of the city.

“Capturing Kismayu is important because it will cut the main source of revenue for the Al-Shabaab,” Sheikh Madobe told the Sunday Nation. The Al-Shabaab are almost enclosed in Kismayu after losing a number of key towns.

In the northern sector, allied forces have captured the key towns of Busar, Inda El, Damase and El Afe. In the central sector, Dhobley, Qoqani, Tabta, Hayo and Dabilo are under the control of Amisom troops and friendly forces while southern sector towns such as Ras Kamboni, Burgavo, Kulbio and Badhaadhe are no longer under the control of Al-Shabaab.

“They cannot win this war. We will take Kismayu from them. It’s time they thought about avoiding a bloodbath,” Sheikh Madobe said.

Geddi Ismail, a Somali political analyst based in Nairobi, told SomaliReport that the Al-Shabaab have been weakened to the extent of not being able to defend Kismayu. Already, a number of Al-Shabaab fighters and supporters are said to have fled Kismayu.

They include the commissioner of Kismayu District Hassan Yaqup and other senior officials who are said to have fled to villages close to the beach in Jilib district.he war on the Al-Shabaab took a new turn last week when the US State Department put a bounty on the heads of seven Al-Shabaab leaders.

After the success of the London and Istanbul conferences on Somalia, there is growing attention by international players on the situation in Somalia.
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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby Substance » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:15 pm

substance, dude u know very well the threat MJ is, otherwise you wouldnt put 5 times down that you are willing to share kismaayo, so to say that MJ's are pretty insignificant in the jubba's is kind of ludicrous.. put it this way bro, anything that concerns MJ, we make sure we participate, we are soo deep into xamar that some wouldnt be surprised if an MJ man became the mayor of tht city, ..hargeisa can not sit down with villa somalia without our presence, galmudug officials can not fly anywhere without the approval from u kno who, bro as a matter of fact we are the godfather of AZANIA, .and to be honest with you, 75% of those things dont really effect mj's, so imagine the interest we have in kismayo and how far we would go for our interest to be met...mareexaans are our brothers, but dont get ahead of yourself, there is no way u can force yourself on kismaayo... its planned to be the breadbasket of puntland.. its harti city with MJ in the driving seat..

there is no need for bullets to be fired, there is a reason we have prime ministers and president positions...we are a very persuasive folks..
The reason I was willing to share its because I understand that war will not be good for any one.
Saxxib, if you claim all of kismayu as you said" breadbasket" then we will claim everything aswell.
We are not forcing us, we already majority in Kismayu, and we are the most dominate clan in the jubbas.
This is between absame and marehan, not concering you at all. Just enjoy your peace in punntland.

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Re: Kismayo Issue

Postby zingii » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:11 pm

Dude, why argue with peeps we karbashed out of the city over 6 times?


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