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I have been looking into the origin and political Tradition of abysinia and I cannot help but connect this bastard entity to the Byzantine Empire
People need to remember that Egypt pre Islam was a Christian state that was vassal of Byzantine Empire, it was called Diocese of Egypt

Now I have my own theory; which is when Byzantine fell, they relocated that civilisation to the Muscovy Russia which eventually became third rome underTsardom of Russia
The same can be said about Diocese of Egypt, instead of moving north they moved south to Ethiopia where another Byzantium vassal had stable roots and its from there were they wanted to continue.

Remember the Ethiopian church got their Independence 1959 from Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria
Now the Christians Egyptians didn`t move as a people but they moved their methods to Abyssinia and wanted to recreate new Diocese of Egypt In Ethiopia, away from muslim held egypt

Remember, Egypt historically looked both north and south and under any regime Egypt always influenced Ethiopia

ama bacdu,

now what is the nature of byzantium, which might explain the nature of abysinnia and it successor state Ethiopia

Ever since our rough crusading forefathers first saw Constantinople and met, to their contemptuous disgust, a society where everyone read and wrote, ate food with forks and preferred diplomacy to war, it has been fashionable to pass the Byzantines by with scorn and to use their name as synonymous with decadence".
Steven Runciman

Of that Byzantine empire, the universal verdict of history is that it constitutes, without a single exception, the most thoroughly base and despicable form that civilization has yet assumed. There has been no other enduring civilization so absolutely destitute of all forms and elements of greatness, and none to which the epithet "mean" may be so emphatically applied...The history of the empire is a monotonous story of the intrigues of priests, eunuchs, and women, of poisonings, of conspiracies, of uniform ingratitude.
William Lecky

Its [Byzantium's] general aspect presents a disgusting picture of imbecility: wretched, nay, insane passions, stifles the growth of all that is noble in thoughts, deeds, and persons. Rebellion on the part of generals, depositions of the Emperors by means or through the intrigues of the courtiers, assassinations or poisoning of the Emperors by their own wives and sons, women surrendering themselves to lusts and abominations of all kinds.
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

At its summit was despotism, infinitely strengthened by the union of churchly and secular dominion; in the place of morality it imposed orthodoxy; in the place of unbridled and demoralized expression of the natural instincts, hypocrisy and pretense; in the face of despotism there was developed greed masquerading as poverty, and deep cunning; in religious art and literature there was an incredible stubbornness in the constant repetition of obsolete motifs.
Jacob Burckhardt

Please conclude good sir

The peoples of horn of Africa have been greatly influence by the Middle East religion wise.
You see in the Islamic tradition (Somali case) religious scholars coming down from Arabia to the horn of Africa and establishing linages that are connected to the ruling dynasty that rules in Arabia or the caliphate at that moment.

you can see a clear connection of whoever rules Arabia establishes new ruling linage in horn of Africa oo ku abtirsada arabnimo
This tradition predates islam it goes all the way back to Christian era of the middle east

The same can be said about the Ethiopians who were the predecessor of daarood, isaaq, sheeqaal, ajuraan etc
Its from there we get solomnic dynasty etc etc
Notice all Somali clans waxay ku abtirsadan arab…yes sheik ahmed hawiye and dir too

I say Dir was created by the abbasid
Ajuraan was created by Umayyad
Hawiye by the Fatimid Caliphate ( hawiye has shia background believe it or not. hawiye and ajuraan wars has a background in fatmid and Umayyad rivalry, ajuraan gave sanctuary to fleeing muslims of spain in later years )
Daarood by Mamluk Sultanate( remember emir abadir trip) and it continued under ottoman(ahmed gurey wars)
Isaaq by second Saudi State (working with the British because the british and Saudi had a common interest of destroying old linages that had loyalty to previous regimes, horn included
For the Saudi it was important to control the caravan rout in horn of Africa)

Back to Ethiopia
Here is the guy that made axum Christian (notice he is from the middle east)

Saint Frumentius (Ge'ez ፍሬምናጦስ frēmnāṭōs) (died ca. 383) was the first Bishop of Axum, and he is credited with bringing Christianity to the Aksumite Kingdom.[1] He was a Syro-Phoenician Greek born in Tyre.4th century AD
built many churches, and spread Christianity throughout Ethiopia. The people called Frumentius Kesate Birhan (Revealer of Light) and Abba Salama, (Father of Peace), and he became the first

abba salama, doesn`t this remind you of Emir Aba-Dir muuse

my point is the Ethiopian bastardise history the same way somalis bastardise their linages
you can tell that the ethiopians don`t have a clue were Abyssiniaor axum came from, its the same way somalis don`t have a clue about Islamic sultanates of horn africa that their fore fathers lived under.

the Ethiopians used to be agrarians people that adopted well to Christian based church system
the somalis were pastoralist people that adopted well in arab linage based system

Really interesting information you brought to our attention wallahi

eagle is always dropping knowledge. deep sh!t.

Woooow.
Eagle you right, if you read the tafsir abdallah yousuf the meaning of the holy quran wich he wrote it in english in 1931 surat al buruj he says: it was an byzantine order from alexanderia to aksum to conqure arabia and save its christians. That najashi azena was smart enough, he has adopted the christianity to play with the world power.
As for ajuraan and hawiye, reerow xassan used to be shia zadia preachers, I know they got reer mahdi in hiraan but just found out that they got another subclan in hargaisa and others who are cadcad in lower shabeele. As hawiye it was mentioned in the yemen traditions that when the zaidite imam yahya hussain died hawiye was overwhelmed by sadness.