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Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

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Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby The`Republic » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:17 am

Public perception is not everything and many people are wishing to spin every which way.

The Marehan in Kismaayo and generally, while calling for better working relationship the government, also share the same position of Ahmed Madoobe/Ras Kamboni that this is a local affair.

The decision to refuse entrance to the commission sent by the President included key Marehans such as Raadeer. The President sent Canood (Marehan, former Commander of Villa Somalia security for Sheikh Sharif), some lady called Baarliin who the President named chairman of his committee for Jubbaland, and some guy called Abdikariim "Gabayre" titled "gudoomiyaha rugta ganacsiga benaadir".

The Darod are united that the events in Jubbaland are a local issue and the Marehan are just as much vociferous supporters of this idea and are in step with Ras Kamboni on it.

Also, the transition council in Kismaayo has been disbanded and a new one is being set up with Marehan as head.

Jubbaland is a local issue. The President has squandered a lot of time and seems to be alienating all of Darod with his obsession.

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby The`Republic » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:24 am

Just yesterday, the last Marehan faction (led by Mohamud Sayid Adan) which opposed the IGAD Jubbaland formation has signed on to it wholeheartedly and are enroute to Kismaayo to contribute to the building meeting when it begins.
War dag dag ah : Maxamuud Sayid Adan oo shegay in uu ka qaybgalayo Shirweynaha Maamul usameynta Jubboyinka iyo Gedo ee ka dhacayo Kismaayo.

Ayado Maalmihi ugu danbeyay ay si xoowli ah ku socdeen howlaha Maamul usameynta Jubboyinka iyo Gedo ayaa waxaa manta Magaalada Doolow shir jaraaid ku qabtay ex Xildhibaan Maxamuud Sayiid Adan oo horay uga soo horjedsaday Maamul usameynta Jubboyinka iyo Gedo.

Maxamuud Sayid Adan ayaa waxaa uu shegay in qaabki hore ee lagu bilaabay Maamul usameynta Jubboyinka iyo Gedo ay qaldanaynd isla marakana uu aminsana in dhinacyadi shirka ka qayb qadanayay aysan ahayn kooxo sax ah oo si rasmi ah u mataala Gobolada Jubboyinka iyo Gedo.

Mr Sayiid ayaa waxaa uu intaasi ku daray in ay qayb ka ahayd waxyabaha ay ku diideen shirka maamul usameynta jubboyinka iyo Gedo Dowlada Abaabulka waday ee Kenya oo arimaha Jubboyinka aanan xiligaas dhexdhexaad ka ahayn.

Mr.Sayid ayaa waxaa uu shegay in hatan xaaladaha ay normal yihiin islamarkana uu si toos ah uga qayb qadandoono dadaalada lagu doonayo in Maamul Goboleed salbalaran lago dhiso Gobolada Jubboyinka iyo Gedo.

Maxamuud Sayiid adan ayaa waxaa uu shegay inasaga ahaan uu qabay in Shirweynaha Maamul usameynta Jubboyinka iyo Gedo lagu qabto Magaalada Doolow oo xaga nabadgaliyada aad u wanagsan islamarkana awooda in ay qaabisho guud ahaan ergoyinka ka qayb qadanaya Shirweynaha Maamul usameynta jubboyinka iyo Gedo.

Balse IGAAD waxay nagu soo wargalisay in shirka uu ka dhici doono Magaalada Kismaayo oo ayaduna ah Magaalo muhiim ah oo ka bixi karta Marti galinta Shirweynaha Maamul usameynta Jubboyinka iyo Gedo.

Dhanka kale Maxamuud Sayid Adan waxaa uu shegay in Magaalada Doolow ay Ciidamo badan tababar ugu soo xireen Ciidamadaasina ay qayb ka qadan doonan dib u xoreynta deeganada ay wali gacanta ku hayaan kooxda Al-shabaab sida qaybo ka mid ah Gedo iyo Gobolka Jubbada dhexe.

Mr.sayid waxaa uu shegay in uu ka qayb galidoona Shirweynaha Maamul usameynta Jubboyinka iyo Gedo ee ka dhacaya Magaalo Xeebedka Kismaayo

Go,aanka ka qaybgalka Shirka ee Maxamuud Sayiid Adan ayaa waxaa uu yimid wada xaajood dheer oo mudo socday kaas oo ugu danbeyn lagu gulaystay .

Ugu danbeyn waxaa guul iyo farxaad lagu tilmaami kara go,aan muhiimka ah ee uu qatay Xildhibaan Maxamuud Sayiid adan oo ah Masuul sameyn ku leh Gobolka Gedo

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:36 am

Jubbaland is a local issue. The President has squandered a lot of time and seems to be alienating all of Darod with his obsession.
Jubbaland (especially at the moment) is not a local issue; it is a national issue. It is called the Federal Republic of Somalia, not the Somali Autonomous States. The President, the PM and the federal government will be front and center when it comes to the beginning stages of Jubbaland's formation.

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby The`Republic » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:40 am

As long as Marehan and Ogaden are united and IGAD sees them as holding "real" authority and "real" importance in the three border regions...the government and its nascent institutions doesn't matter.

The Jubbaland Technical Committee set up by IGAD and which has as chairman former Sheikh Sharif Police Commander Gen Ali Madoobe (Marehan) is right now in Kismaayo preparing for the local "declaration" meeting and ceremony.

The day Marehan and Ogaden sat down and united and signed their names in ink was the day the three states united in Jubbaland.

The President and the Hawiye-centric Mogadishu intelligentsia are just getting desperate with every second that goes by and the process is close to completion in Kismaayo.

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby FarhanYare » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:45 am

As long as Marehan and Ogaden are united and IGAD sees them as holding "real" authority and "real" importance in the three border regions...the government and its nascent institutions doesn't matter.

The Jubbaland Technical Committee set up by IGAD and which has as chairman former Sheikh Sharif Police Commander Gen Ali Madoobe (Marehan) is right now in Kismaayo preparing for the local "declaration" meeting and ceremony.

The day Marehan and Ogaden sat down and united and signed their names in ink was the day the three states united in Jubbaland.

The President and the Hawiye-centric Mogadishu intelligentsia are just getting desperate with every second that goes by and the process is close to completion in Kismaayo.
:lol: trust me we care less about labo qabiil oo tacbaan eeh

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:53 am

What is the point in having a federal system of government if there are going to be people who are opposed in including the Federal Government of Somalia in the formation of Jubbaland? There is no federal country on this Earth that has not been included in the creation or the entry of a federal state into the union. What unfortunately looked like what was going to be the most decentralized country in the world will pretty much become a "country" of autonomous states.

They start this now. Then they will create their own currency, passports, have their own foreign ministry. It won't be long before they call for secession.

This is why many people opposed Somalia becoming a federation from the beginning. Somalis are sneaky people with their own agendas. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby The`Republic » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:57 am

Kim-

Mogadishu is the tumour which festers the entire body. You have a town in which whole scale ethnic cleansing took place and even to this day stolen properties and personal wealth are still illegally in the hands of the President's overall clan and instead of setting priorities to bring harmony back to Somalis....he concentrates on Kismaayo, the nearest major city the Darod live.

Jubbaland State of Somalia be idni laahi kariim and local ownership over their land. Jubbaland and Kismaayo have more diaspora interested in it then anywhere else. They took Mogadishu but Kismaayo will surpass it and it will be ours. :up:

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby Advo » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:02 am

The president needs to declare support for the formation of jubbaland state by the locals and in return the state will recognize him as the nation leader. I think it was unwise to name a committee behind the backs of people that shed blood for the region.


All in all, this whole feud can be resolved with just talks between both entities.

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby original dervish » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:18 am

I`m sure talks will proceed after the establishment of Jubbaland.

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:22 am

Republic,

Firstly, It was not "ethnic" cleansing. The clan majority in Jubbaland and the people of Mogadishu share the same ethnicity. Let us set the record straight. AUN to the dead and those who were targeted because of their clan.

Secondly, whoever has property in Xamar are able to go back and to get back what is rightfully theirs, provided that they have their papers and if it was not obtained through illegal means (i.e: Boli Qaran).

Thirdly, it is time for this smear campaign on Somalinet against Hassan Sheikh Mohamud to end. It's unwarranted. This is a man who stayed in Somalia throughout the whole duration of the civil war, opening universities and working for NGO's trying to better the lives of all Somalis regardless of clan. This man has a clean heart and God-fearing. He is "interfering" in the Jubbaland process not because of "HAG", not because it is in his clan interest to do so but because he is the President of Somalia. People on this site had the audacity of comparing him to warlords.

Fifthly, Jubbaland is a local project, for the local people and by the local people, but the President should and will be included in it at the initial stages. That is what federal systems are all about. Any president, be it a Darod one, a Hawiye one, a Dir one or a Rahanweyn one, would have reacted the same way Hassan Sheikh Mohamud did regarding Jubbaland. What kind of madness is this when it seems that the Kenyan army officials have more say in what is going on in Kismayo and Jubbaland than the Government of Somalia? This is a strip of land that immediately borders Kenya and people here are expressing their outrage over the President's concern? The Kenyans are the same people who tried to trick the previous Somali parliament into signing an agreement to sign off a portion of Somali waters to Kenya. Anything can happen.
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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby Murax » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:22 am

Combined, Marehan, Ogaden dominate 12/15 of the districts of Jubbaland including the Port of Kismayo from Doolow on the Ethiopian border to Raskambooni the Southern most top if the Indian Ocean. I kinda figuired with every Major Sade Politican supporting the Jubbaland Inititive, there was some sort of understanding reached with Madoobe and Raskambooni, IGAD

Sh AwLibax, Celi: Chairman of Southern Ahlu Sunnah
Col Fartag Reer Ugaas Sharmake: Gedo TFG Commander
Maxamuud Sayyid, Reer Xassan: Deputy Governer of Gedo
Abdi Madoobe Reer Siyaad Diini: Technical Committe Jubbaland
Col Yasin Radeer Reer Dalal: Lower Jubba TFG Forces


You then have Gen Diini, RW Saacid who are either neutral or tacitly supporting this.


Beesha Sade Community meeting in Nairobi today supporting the Jubbaland initive and warning people from spreading propagand about ith. Sh Awlibax speaking from 3:52.


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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby Murax » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:32 am

KimJong,

The President absolutely has a right to be involved in the process, however keep in mind Somalia is still very much in civil war. Just because He's the President doesn't mean its wise for Him to get involved anyway He sees fit. I don't think the President is showing tact in the way He is getting involved and He has to hold a press conference as soon as possible to clear the air. Bad politics is bad politics.

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby KimJongIllest » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:50 am

Murax,

He may have made some mistakes regarding the Jubbaland issue but it is apparent that the very people who are in charge of Jubbaland are pushing him away completely (and have done so even before the President's slip ups). The Somali media, as well as some on Somalinet, are painting the man as a menace and as a man against Darod interests. There is a smear campaign against this miskeen man; painting him as a person he is not. He is the least deserving person in Somali politics to go through this
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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby Adali » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:51 am

Caanood was refused entry :mindblown:

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Re: Marehan and Ogaden are united on Kismaayo.

Postby The`Republic » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:21 am


Wow. Didn't even see this and it was just yesterday? Like I said Marehan and Ogaden, both communities are united on this. There is a public perception that wants to be partisan whether for self-aggrandizement or to instil hostilities but the reality is there has been a formed consensus but all the people in power from both clans.

You have Mohamud Sayid Adan who led the most opposed group just yesterday give his blessings. That tells you how kuch behind the scenes unity and partnership that is being worked on.


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