What The Heck Is Going On Between Celi/Wagarhdac?

[sadeboi]

Learn your Abtris Kids

SADE=Marexaan, Facaye
Marexaan= Awsame, Uurmidig
Awsame= Baalyiri
Baalyiri= Hodanberi
Hodanberi= Galshiredle
Galshiredle=Isaaq, Reer Hasan
Isaaq= Amaanreer
Amaanreer= Radimiir, Wagerdhac, Talxe, Hawrarsame
Radimiir= Warwaajecle
Warwaajecle= Muuse, Celi, Haber Ciise, Fiqi Yaquub
Muuse= Abadir, Mamaasame
Abadir= Dauud, Soonfure
Dauud= Maxamed
Boqor Maxamed= Axmed, Cali Dheere, Yusef, Cismaan
Axmed=Ciis
Ciis=Mataan
Mataan=Yusef, Reer Garaad (Hiraabe)
Yusef= Hussein, Ina Nuur
Hussien= Khalaf, Reer Axmed, Siyaad Hussein, Cali, Yabar
Khalaf= Sharmarke, Bah Abaskuul, Bah Dir
Sharmarke= Ugas Guleed, ? I forgot the others
Guleed= Farax Ugas, Baha Guleed, Daweed, ? Forgot the others
Farax Ugas= Diini, Sharmarke, Rooble, Khalaf, Xersi, ? Forgot
Ugas Diini= Siyaad, Sharmarke, Warsame = Bah Xawaadle
Dalal, Maxamud Guleed, Xersi = Bah Ogaadeen
Koshin, Nuur, Warfa, Maxamud, Farah, Shirwac= Bah Darandole

So far there are 23 subclans of Marexaan from what I mentioned, I counted all Farax Ugas as one subclan btw, Masha Allah. I missed some from Khalaf Hussein down, besides reer Diini.

[sadeboi]

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[ayanleayanle]

Sade boy, how come dadku waxaay dahan wagardac iyo celi are cousins or same bah or what ever, as u mentioned there are nt even close

[sadeboi]

I never heard that. ..Wagerdhac, Reer Yusef (reer hasan sub clan) and Talxe have the same mom, the daughter of hayaag (Dhulbahante). She was married to Hasan Galshiredle, they had Yusef Hasan, he died, then Hasan's nephew Amaanreer aya dhumaaley, and they had wagerdhac and talxe.

Celi Warwaajecle Radimiir Amaanreer
Wagerdhac Amaanreer...Wagerdhac is his grandfather's brother

Wagerdhac's real name is Maxamed...he was called Wagerdhac because his sister got a good share of their father's inheritance (the father is Amaanreer), and she was marrying a shisheeye, so he said hell no and took most of the xoolo from her, hence his nickname, the one who robbed from his sister Weger (her name).

Celi's real name is Axmed, he got the nickname because when one of Hawrarsame's offspring killed Boqor Maxamed Daud, Marexaan outcasted them (like Quraysh did to Banu Hashim), Marexaan said they won't marry from them, mingle with them, and looted their wealth. The coldest person was Axmed, he was the oldest living of Warwaajecle, so people listened. Every time Marexaan would loot Hawrarsame, he would say it's not enough celiya, essentially telling them to bring more stuff from Hawrarsame. So they called him Celi (the one who said return).


It was so wrong what they did to Hawrarsame.


Haber Ciise got the nickname because Ciise was the youngest of Ilma Warwaajecle, Warwaajecle had him at a very old age. When Ciise was like 15, his brother Celi died, so Ciise married her (dhumaal). Celi was much older then Ciise, he could be like his grandfather. Celi's wife was also old, so Ciise's kids were called Haber Ciise, essentially Habar duq ah ba dashey.

Sade's real name is Axmed, and I believe Marexaan is Maxamed.

[sadeboi]

The Boqortooyo of Maxamed Daud was given to Reer Garad (futah al xabsha mentions him as Amir of Somali, Hiraabe).

After the death of Axmed Hiraabe (Axmed Gurey), and the death of Amir Nuur ( Nuur Yusef Mataan), Marexaan migrated to Nugaal and Bari, from there Xuseen Yusef was crowned the Ugas of Marexaan and down to Diini. Diini's eldest was Khalaf, he had his own mom, the next oldest was Sharmarke. They contested for power because Sharmarke aya bud dhigey Ugaas Diini (he placed in his grave). Darood tradition is the one who lays his father in the grave gets the recognition. Khalaf said regardless I'm the oldest. So Marexaan said we will settle the case for you, meet us at a certain location. The night before Siyaad Diini cut the rope of Khalaf's horse and it ran away so he couldn't go the meeting and Marexaan crowned Sharmarke as Ugaas. Khalaf was so distraught, he took a knife to his throat, but people stopped him, hence his nick Khalaf Qoracne.

I forgot to add him to ilma Diini, Khalaf Qoracne's offspring live in Ethiopia I heard.

[ayanleayanle]

Thanks for the info, sade boy , celi iyo habarcise baa islaa dashaay not wagardac iyo celi , gd to know

[sadeboi]

And Fiqi Yaquub, also known as Habar Yaquub at times. Because apparently Yaquub was a sheikh and went to Hajj, he had son named Fiqi, when he came back his wife had another kid. They say that he said the second son wasn't his, but that of his servant. She denied it, and said it was his. So they call the offspring of his first kid Fiqi Yaquub, and the kids from the second Haber Yaquub (the kids of haberti Yaquub).

A simple DNA can put it to rest lol.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Smile since you seem serious I will leave it at that.
Wiilsha reer dalal...we are the only MR clan that is large in Mudug and Gedo, you guys share Cabudwaaq with 6 MR clans. We are the largest reer diini clan, in gedo reer ugas sharmarke are a little bigger in mudug reer dalal are a little bigger...combined from both places the House of Siyaad Ugas has no equal. We are the military force of Sade no one can deny that either, were House Siyaad doesn't go, Sade won't go ciyaarta joojiya ilma adeer.


Murux hawrarsame is larger then reer Axmed in Beledxawo. ..reer hasan dont settle there...they settle in luuq and garbaharay district, Liban district. I believe reer Ahmed have the largest degaan of Sade followed by reer Hasan then Reer Siyaad Ugas, then Talxe.

Honestly I like how Sade is almost equal...you have reer diini, reer hasan, hawrarsame, Wagerdhac, talxe, Reer Ahmed almost equal

Then Reer Siyaad Hussein, Celi, Cali Dheere, Fiqi Yaquub (habar Yaqub), Reer Garaad

Then Haber Ciise, Ina Nuur, Reer Cismaan, Reer Yusef, Soonfure

Then the remaining clans of Hussein Yusef, and also uurmidig.

[sadeboi]

Smile, sheekadas xirra, and let's focus on our collective history snd future plans. Sade wey ii simanyahiin ina adeer.

But honestly, what other clan lives in mudug and gedo both, and has a large size in both?

[HusseinHassan]

i think maxamed siad barre was reer siyaad dini, right?
is it the same as sadeboi's siyaad ugas? is siyaad hussein before or after the famous diini?
how many diini sub clans are there? lol

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

i think maxamed siad barre was reer siyaad dini, right?
is it the same as sadeboi's siyaad ugas? is siyaad hussein before or after the famous diini?
how many diini sub clans are there? lol

Dude just stop it..stop it!



Sadeboi, Mudug xaage ka degtaan

[sadeboi]

M. Siyaad Barre is reer Koshin Diini.
There are 13 Diini clans.
Siyaad Hussein is before Siyaad Diini.

Siyaad diini farax guleed Sharmarke Khalaf Hussein Yusef
Siyaad Hussein Yusef

Smile are you joking? You cant be serious. Do you really think any clan is larger then us in Ballanbale? Do you really think reer koshin are bigger then the Reer Siyaad of Ballanbale?

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Xita the 7th largerst clan matihid..in B town..let alone galgaduud Majority of siyad dini migrated to the south..,while the rest of the bah hawiye stayed. mesha
hada ku badanaan lahaydeen so alshabab laga ma heleen:lol:


Anywho, I am fasting..i have no energy for muran iyo baq baq

[sadeboi]

Lool you got jokes, our moment with shabab was political.

[HusseinHassan]

M. Siyaad Barre is reer Koshin Diini.
There are 13 Diini clans.
Siyaad Hussein is before Siyaad Diini.

Siyaad diini farax guleed Sharmarke Khalaf Hussein Yusef
Siyaad Hussein Yusef

siyaad hussein and khalaf hussein are brothers, i see.
so, what are you sadeboi and what is smile?