Daud Abadir(MX) vs Mohamed Zuber(OG)

[Nomand]

OG vs MX but MX have to drag us in.


MJ

First Somali to get PhD (Abdirizaq Haji Hussein) also was a PM

Flag of Somalia created by a Mj (Maxamed Cawale Liiban)

First Democratically Elected President of Somalia and maybe the only one (Abdirashiid Ali Sharmake)

First Recognizable President after Burburka who Liberated Mogadhishu from Warlords and Kharijites (Abdullahi Yusuf)

First Muslim Cabinet Minister in Canada (Ahmed Hussen)

First Muslim President of the International Court of Justice (Abdulqawi Jibril )

First Somali MP of Denmark (Ayaan Xirsi Magan)

Tied First Muslim Congresswoman of America (Ilhan Omar)

Comparing Mareexaan Achievements to Majeerteen Achievements waa ceeb

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[DalJecel60]

OG vs MX but MX have to drag us in.


MJ

First Somali to get PhD (Abdirizaq Haji Hussein) also was a PM

Flag of Somalia created by a Mj (Maxamed Cawale Liiban)

First Democratically Elected President of Somalia and maybe the only one (Abdirashiid Ali Sharmake)

First Recognizable President after Burburka who Liberated Mogadhishu from Warlords and Kharijites (Abdullahi Yusuf)

First Muslim Cabinet Minister in Canada (Ahmed Hussen)

First Muslim President of the International Court of Justice (Abdulqawi Jibril )

First Somali MP of Denmark (Ayaan Xirsi Magan)

Tied First Muslim Congresswoman of America (Ilhan Omar)

Comparing Mareexaan Achievements to Majeerteen Achievements waa ceeb

kkkk

No one said theyre good people
But those dear cousin are achievements
Ilahay ayagana hasoo hanuunsho

[Voltage]

OG vs MX but MX have to drag us in.


MJ

First Somali to get PhD (Abdirizaq Haji Hussein) also was a PM

Flag of Somalia created by a Mj (Maxamed Cawale Liiban)

First Democratically Elected President of Somalia and maybe the only one (Abdirashiid Ali Sharmake)

First Recognizable President after Burburka who Liberated Mogadhishu from Warlords and Kharijites (Abdullahi Yusuf)

First Muslim Cabinet Minister in Canada (Ahmed Hussen)

First Muslim President of the International Court of Justice (Abdulqawi Jibril )

First Somali MP of Denmark (Ayaan Xirsi Magan)

Tied First Muslim Congresswoman of America (Ilhan Omar)

Comparing Mareexaan Achievements to Majeerteen Achievements waa ceeb

Dude, why are new age Majeerteen so insecure? Relax, I was joking.

Also, interesting about Phd, speaking of Abdiriasaaq though his Chief of Staff was the first Somali to get a Western college degree DR LAWAAXO (Marehan/Wagardhac).

Lawaaxe was the first Secretary of the SYL and also ONE ABDIRAZAK'S FIRST SUPERVISORS in his job placement
after hard work and luck led him from baadiyaha Gaalkacyo.

Found this out in Abdirisaaq's jointly written story with Professor Samatar




Lawaaho at SYL founding, in middle Black suit next to Abdullahi Ciise white suit

[DalJecel60]

OG vs MX but MX have to drag us in.


MJ

First Somali to get PhD (Abdirizaq Haji Hussein) also was a PM

Flag of Somalia created by a Mj (Maxamed Cawale Liiban)

First Democratically Elected President of Somalia and maybe the only one (Abdirashiid Ali Sharmake)

First Recognizable President after Burburka who Liberated Mogadhishu from Warlords and Kharijites (Abdullahi Yusuf)

First Muslim Cabinet Minister in Canada (Ahmed Hussen)

First Muslim President of the International Court of Justice (Abdulqawi Jibril )

First Somali MP of Denmark (Ayaan Xirsi Magan)

Tied First Muslim Congresswoman of America (Ilhan Omar)

Comparing Mareexaan Achievements to Majeerteen Achievements waa ceeb

Dude, why are new age Majeerteen so insecure? Relax, I was joking.

Also, interesting about Phd, speaking of Abdiriasaaq though his Chief of Staff was the first Somali to get a Western college degree DR LAWAAXO (Marehan/Wagardhac).

Lawaaxe was the first Secretary of the SYL and also ONE ABDIRAZAK'S FIRST SUPERVISORS in his job placement
after hard work and luck led him from baadiyaha Gaalkacyo.

Found this out in Abdirisaaq's jointly written story with Professor Samatar




Lawaaho at SYL founding, in middle Black suit next to Abdullahi Ciise white suit

So explain

Was Lawaaxe the first with the PhD or Abdirizaaq

I.always heard it was Abdirizaaq


And Insecure meeshaan kama jidho

You and Murax waxaan idinku xushmeeya been laydinkuma yaqaan

[Voltage]

As you say Abdirisaaq. I said just college degree. Although it seems Lawaaho had a Masters

[Voltage]

Apparent he did his Masters at American U in D.C in 1960

https://www.nypl.org/research/collectio ... /b10480659

[STARKAST]

This is all Darood history no point in berating each other.

And also MB is not 75% of MJ. Alternative history.

[Murax]

Daljecel60,


I was fine with most of your list , dad majerteen somalinimo wax weyn u taray malaga murmi karo lakin at the end kisto desperate baa noqotay. Ayan Hersi waa qumayad meel xun ku danbeynayso hadaysin si deg deg ah u toobadkeenin.

[Seedyare]

Ugaas Diini had a longer line of lineage than Guleed Magan even though they were contemporaries as he married his daughter in the early 1800s, Thats a win for me surely ! I count 7 to Ugaas Diini i don't know how many names the descendants of Guleed Magan count to him, the discrepancy has probably increased in my favour, another win ! Guleed Magan, nobody has heard of them, heck the entire Rer Isaaq is not well known, thats probably because you aren't that many, and Ugaas Diini today outnumber you even though we are not isku fac, I think I take my W there saxib.

Guleed Allamagan and Faarax Guleed were contemporaries .Diini is comparable to Dalal Guleed ,FiqiCigaal Guleed ,Wacays Guleed,Hedi Guleed,Xandun Guleed,Dhallin Guleed ,Warfaa Guleed .


Jiisow Fiqi Cigaal and Dalal Diini were contemporaries abtirsi wise.Below is my abtirsi to Jiisow


11.Guleed
10.Fiqi Cigaal
9.Jiisow
8.Cumar
7.Warfaa
6.Cismaan
5.Maxamad
4.
3.
2.
1.Seed

[Seedyare]

and Ugaas Diini today outnumber you even though we are not isku fac, I think I take my W there saxib.

This is perhaps the dumbest thing i have heard from you .A section of Gulled Allamagan dwarfs Ree Diini.







As an abtirsi and qoora tiris expert ,let me give you a fair male population estimates of Bah Dhulbaante (largest section of Guleed Allamagan)and ree Diini .


Ree Diini can be grouped as three Bah .Two large bah and a medium-sized one .

Bah Xawaadle (Ree Ugaas ,Ree Siyaad ,Ree Warsame) .According to my ilkayar informants Ree Diini qoora tiris looks like this .

Ree Ugaas 15k
Ree Siyaad 10kun
Ree Warsame 6kun

Bah Xawaadle 31kun

Bah Ogaadeen (Dalal,Xirsi,Guleed)

Ree Dalal 18kun
Ree Xirsi +Maxamud guleed 6kun

BAH OGAADEEN 25Kun



Bah Dalandoole Are relatively small 12K

Kooshin 6kun
Nuur 4.5kun
Others less than 1kun


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Qoora tirsi of Bah Dhulbaante

Wacays Guleed 21kun
-Ree Faarax 10.5kun
-Ree Samakab 4kun
-Cumar Wacays 2.5 kun
-Geesaleey 4kun


Ree Jiiisow Fiqi Cigaal 20kun

Cumar Jiisow 10kun
Jiisowga kale 10kun


Fiqi Cigaalada kale 27kun

Ree Magan 8.5kun
Ree Colow 6.5kun
Ree Cali Fiqi Cigaal 3.5kun
Ree Cabdi Rooble 1.5kun
Ree Wacays Fiqi Cigaal 6.1kun
Ree Midab 0.5k
Ree Xirsi Jugax 0.4



total qoora tirsi of Bah Dhulbaante is 68k
Qoora tirsi of Ree Diini is 68k

[DalJecel60]

This is all Darood history no point in berating each other.

And also MB is not 75% of MJ. Alternative history.

Daarood Achievements are Somali Achievements

Only Clan to live in 11 out of 18 Gobols (Somaliya)
Also 8 out of 9 Gobols (DDSi)
4 out of 4 Gobols (NFD)

Out of the 34 Somaaliweyn Gobols Daarood settle in 24

No wonder InterDaarood Quarrels are manyy

[DalJecel60]

This is all Darood history no point in berating each other.

And also MB is not 75% of MJ. Alternative history.

Daarood Achievements are Somali Achievements

Only Clan to live in 11 out of 18 Gobols (Somaliya)
Also 8 out of 9 Gobols (DDSi)
4 out of 4 Gobols (NFD)

Out of the 34 Somaaliweyn Gobols Daarood settle in 24

No wonder InterDaarood Quarrels are manyy

[Seedyare]

Ciis Maxamad vs Ree Cabdille


Ree Cabdille Sub clans

1.Maalinguur
2.Warfaa
3.Amaadin
4.Ree Ugaas Kooshin
5.Ree Ugaas Nuur
6.Ree Ugaas Guleed
7.Ree Caamir
8.Guleed Khalaf
9.Samatar Khalaf
10.Muuse Khalaf
11.Cammaar Khalaf
12.Ree Calinasri
13.Ree Caliwaanag
14.Ree Cali Yuusuf
15.Ree Faarax Booli
16.Ree Faarax Xirsi
17.Ree Faarax Nuur
18.Ree Diini Maxaadroob
19.Ree Dudub Maxaadroob
20.Wacays Ugaas
21.Ree Higis
22.Ree Shirshoore
23.Ree Sharmaarke
24.Ree Samatar Hindi
25.Ree Guleed Awdoon
26.AADAN KHAYR

CIIS MAXAMAD SUB CLANS

1.Faarax Ugaas
2.Baho Guleed
3.Bah Dir
4.Bah Abasguul
5.Yabar Xuseen
6.Cali Xuseen
7.Axmad Xuseen
8.Siyaad Xuseen
9.Ina Nuur
10.Ree Garaad



only Faarax Ugaas ugaas qualifies as a laandhere clan ..two are medium sized clans SIYAAD XUSEEN and REE AXMAD . Ree Garaad follows and the rest are nothing but numerically dwarf sub clans ...Infact Ciis Maxamad are less than a combination of two cabdille giants MAALINGUUR and REE WARFAA ..

[Seedyare]

Voltage

Marehan are laangab by status and all Somalis agree to that .My one and only point in this thread is "Ree Diini and the larger ilkayar clan are laangaab in relation to Ogaden clans such as Maxamad Subeer and Cawlyahan"


The rest of Adalis FAAN doesnt concern me at all.

[DalJecel60]

Seedyare singlehandedly tearing apart Marehan Myths

Half of Gedo and the shared Caabudwaaq district dont count as large deegaans