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Gedo Conflict Profile Map

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby STARKAST » Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:07 am

This isn’t your business. You’re boring
Stop feeding the trolls/children

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby MrSinister » Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:17 am

This isn’t your business. You’re boring
If it’s boring then don’t respond. Is there anything about this report that is not accurate? The description of galti and guri seems off.

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Postby MrSinister » Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:26 am

This isn’t your business. You’re boring
Stop feeding the trolls/children
How much money do I owe your mom Garac boy?

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What a loser

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby MrSinister » Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:45 pm

“Guri Marehan communities developed traditional leadership systems and customs in peaceful co-existence with neighbouring clans”

This suggests that source of the conflict in JL is from new arrivals from Galgadud etc.

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby NGM » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:59 am

“Guri Marehan communities developed traditional leadership systems and customs in peaceful co-existence with neighbouring clans”

This suggests that source of the conflict in JL is from new arrivals from Galgadud etc.
Are you hoping Rer Guri will save you from me ? silly dhaboyaco asking a MX to save you from another MX
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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby MrSinister » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:55 am

“Guri Marehan communities developed traditional leadership systems and customs in peaceful co-existence with neighbouring clans”

This suggests that source of the conflict in JL is from new arrivals from Galgadud etc.
Are you hoping Rer Guri will save you from me ? silly dhaboyaco asking a MX to save you from another MX
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You red eyed moryaans from Galagadud give the rest of the noble marexaan a bad name.

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Postby MrSinister » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:36 am

After reading this document, I realized marexaan have a very complicated clan structure. It must be difficult for NGO to understand all of these intra-clan conflicts.

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Postby Gubbet » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:42 pm

After reading this document, I realized marexaan have a very complicated clan structure. It must be difficult for NGO to understand all of these intra-clan conflicts.
It's not complicated at all. Complicated is haphazardly patched together for quick political considerations like this group is part of this Xeer----which isn't actually understood that way by the other group sharing it

That calls for trying to make sense of so many trivialities including 10 different ways they are agnatically connected together.

Marehan Xeer is not complicated. It is actually so developed and organized it is meant to be anti-complicated.

You are being lazy and inferring the opposite of what Guri and Galti is supposed to inform.

Guri and Galti are ORGANIZING KEYS

Think of it this way

1. 100 books lying on a table---obly thing you know is they arre books.

2. 100 books on a table divided into hard covers and soft covers... you know if you want a soft cover book, you just go to that group saving you half of search time

3. 100 books divided into hard and soft each divided into fiction or non-fiction... you immediately go straight to 1/4 of a batch saving yourself 3/4 of searchtime

Similarly Marehan has a very evolved and detailed organization based on migration time × population settlement that doesn't exist in any other Somali community even those with migration heritage who borrowed term like "Guri."

1. 100% Gedo
2. Gedo & Galmudug
3. 100% Galmudug

A. Guri
B. Galti
C. Mixed



1A: Rer Hassan, Soonfure, etc
1B Rer Ahmed, Ugas Shermarke, rtc
1C Rer Garaad, Talxe, etc.

2A. Uurmidig, Hawlraarsame, etc
2B. Rer Siyaad, Cali Dheere, etc
2C. Rer Cismaan, rer Yusuf, etc

3A Bah Abaskuul, Celi etc
3B. Rer Warsame, rer Siyaad Hussein etc
3C. Celi, Wagardhac

3×3= 9 Classifications

Most people always confuse "100% Rer Gedo" today with "Rer Guri"

When really "100% reer Gedo" has 3 different classes with only 1/3 chance being necessarily "Rer Guri"

100% rer Gedo & Guri Migration = Rer Hassan
100% rer Gedo & Galti Migration = Rer Ahmed
100% rer Gedo & Both = Talxe

The difference between developed culture and primitive culture is evolved organization... Building a classification system that is so detailed a query will return the exact book you are looking for is the opposite of complex... evolved is actually to simplify

100 random books strewn around a table haphazardly with no organizing character is at a lower stage of development.

It just looks simple which is what you mean by not complicated.

It may not look complicated but do tell me how well and how long your search goes. I am sure it will be every bit complicated.

Marehan has a very, very advanced Xeer at a significantly more evolved stage than almost all other Somali Xeer structures.

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby NGM » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:34 pm

“Guri Marehan communities developed traditional leadership systems and customs in peaceful co-existence with neighbouring clans”

This suggests that source of the conflict in JL is from new arrivals from Galgadud etc.
Are you hoping Rer Guri will save you from me ? silly dhaboyaco asking a MX to save you from another MX
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You red eyed moryaans from Galagadud give the rest of the noble marexaan a bad name.
Dude you Cumar Maxamuud attacked Rer Dalal, today you are nowhere to be seen in Galaadi and Wardheer, you attacked MX civilians in Lower Jubba, and I wiped the entire Kaballa from Jubaland, until you had to beg terrorist and MX who had grievances they had nothing to do with my conquest to fight me, imagine that, you are literally my magan, I have made you my bitch, and remember you use to claim me a 100 years ago in Doollo just to get access to wells, back then berkads were not that common, and weak clans like yours were at the mercy of my clan. You probably hate me more than Iljeex, while they give you nightmares I give you sleep paralysis :lol:

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby MrSinister » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:44 pm

After reading this document, I realized marexaan have a very complicated clan structure. It must be difficult for NGO to understand all of these intra-clan conflicts.
It's not complicated at all. Complicated is haphazardly patched together for quick political considerations like this group is part of this Xeer----which isn't actually understood that way by the other group sharing it

That calls for trying to make sense of so many trivialities including 10 different ways they are agnatically connected together.

Marehan Xeer is not complicated. It is actually so developed and organized it is meant to be anti-complicated.

You are being lazy and inferring the opposite of what Guri and Galti is supposed to inform.

Guri and Galti are ORGANIZING KEYS

Think of it this way

1. 100 books lying on a table---obly thing you know is they arre books.

2. 100 books on a table divided into hard covers and soft covers... you know if you want a soft cover book, you just go to that group saving you half of search time

3. 100 books divided into hard and soft each divided into fiction or non-fiction... you immediately go straight to 1/4 of a batch saving yourself 3/4 of searchtime

Similarly Marehan has a very evolved and detailed organization based on migration time × population settlement that doesn't exist in any other Somali community even those with migration heritage who borrowed term like "Guri."

1. 100% Gedo
2. Gedo & Galmudug
3. 100% Galmudug

A. Guri
B. Galti
C. Mixed



1A: Rer Hassan, Soonfure, etc
1B Rer Ahmed, Ugas Shermarke, rtc
1C Rer Garaad, Talxe, etc.

2A. Uurmidig, Hawlraarsame, etc
2B. Rer Siyaad, Cali Dheere, etc
2C. Rer Cismaan, rer Yusuf, etc

3A Bah Abaskuul, Celi etc
3B. Rer Warsame, rer Siyaad Hussein etc
3C. Celi, Wagardhac

3×3= 9 Classifications

Most people always confuse "100% Rer Gedo" today with "Rer Guri"

When really "100% reer Gedo" has 3 different classes with only 1/3 chance being necessarily "Rer Guri"

100% rer Gedo & Guri Migration = Rer Hassan
100% rer Gedo & Galti Migration = Rer Ahmed
100% rer Gedo & Both = Talxe

The difference between developed culture and primitive culture is evolved organization... Building a classification system that is so detailed a query will return the exact book you are looking for is the opposite of complex... evolved is actually to simplify

100 random books strewn around a table haphazardly with no organizing character is at a lower stage of development.

It just looks simple which is what you mean by not complicated.

It may not look complicated but do tell me how well and how long your search goes. I am sure it will be every bit complicated.

Marehan has a very, very advanced Xeer at a significantly more evolved stage than almost all other Somali Xeer structures.
Good stuff. :up:

I’m not well versed in clans, so perhaps other clan structures are just as complicated. Are you saying there is no conflict between guri and galti? Where would the authors get that information from then? I would assume they spoke to some of the local people as part of their research.

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby MrSinister » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:49 pm



Are you hoping Rer Guri will save you from me ? silly dhaboyaco asking a MX to save you from another MX
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You red eyed moryaans from Galagadud give the rest of the noble marexaan a bad name.
Dude you Cumar Maxamuud attacked Rer Dalal, today you are nowhere to be seen in Galaadi and Wardheer, you attacked MX civilians in Lower Jubba, and I wiped the entire Kaballa from Jubaland, until you had to beg terrorist and MX who had grievances they had nothing to do with my conquest to fight me, imagine that, you are literally my magan, I have made you my bitch, and remember you use to claim me a 100 years ago in Doollo just to get access to wells, back then berkads were not that common, and weak clans like yours were at the mercy of my clan. You probably hate me more than Iljeex, while they give you nightmares I give you sleep paralysis :lol:
What is there to hate about politically weak group like yours, especially a galnus boon like you?You are essentially the slave of my formers slaves. :lol:

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby MrSinister » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:53 pm

I’ll leave the topic here out of respect.

Gubbet has been kind enough to share his knowledge despite my attempt to troll him. Raganimo :up:

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

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You red eyed moryaans from Galagadud give the rest of the noble marexaan a bad name.
Dude you Cumar Maxamuud attacked Rer Dalal, today you are nowhere to be seen in Galaadi and Wardheer, you attacked MX civilians in Lower Jubba, and I wiped the entire Kaballa from Jubaland, until you had to beg terrorist and MX who had grievances they had nothing to do with my conquest to fight me, imagine that, you are literally my magan, I have made you my bitch, and remember you use to claim me a 100 years ago in Doollo just to get access to wells, back then berkads were not that common, and weak clans like yours were at the mercy of my clan. You probably hate me more than Iljeex, while they give you nightmares I give you sleep paralysis :lol:
What is there to hate about politically weak group like yours, especially a galnus boon like you?You are essentially the slave of my formers slaves. :lol:
I am not a falastin Cumar Maxamuud who gave me his daughters and for free to elderly Rer Dalal men inorder to claim us behind our backs to drink at the wells, today you are a falastin in the disputed northern Mudug region getting harrassed by a single laf Rer hiloowle of Sacad. You have been completely eradicated from most of Doollo only left in a tiny village Galxamur or which is surrounded by Dhulbahante and you are quickly become same status as the midgo among Maxamuud Saleebaan aka Galgala nuux maxamuud, its just a matter of time before Cismaan Maxamuud catch on Baqti Yusuf is dead and Cudur Maxamuud is useless, then you will be treated like the jarjar Dhaboyaco, worse possible treatment any human being can go through, and whats worse is the jarjars hate you so its like you will thrown into a prison you use to be guard off, Amartiwaaq, Rer Maxamuud, Yahan iyo balaayo baa ku cunayso after Awrtable and Leelkase spit out your bones, ina gumeed, I hope I can witness this trejectory play out in my life time, knowing Qurun Maxamuud you will become Raciyad Sacad before that shit happens. :lol:

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Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map

Postby Gubbet » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:19 am

I’ll leave the topic here out of respect.

Gubbet has been kind enough to share his knowledge despite my attempt to troll him. Raganimo :up:
Welcome. Your trolling aside, character cannot be missed when it shows itself and I see you as an alright guy. With regards to why "they" bring it up, inevitably it is what happens when the people whose stories are being told are not represented in the storytelling or are not qualified to do so. It is a cute little claim to "expertise" showing recognition (through overemphasizing) the Galti/Guri distinction in Marehan which was so surprisingly "unique" to early interventionists in the civil war who who only thought there was one storyline here name clan lineage.

But here is A SINGLE CLAN lineage and they have this very "elaborate”classification system which is so unique to them at that utilized level and oh and get this there is an element of RELIGIOSITY AND VALUES in the mix with this fundamentalist outfit Al Itihad and SNF fighting back as a " secular" authority.

Whooah,I thought they just said there was tribes and warlords fighting for scraps here?

Religion? Values? Classification based elaborate organization not caused by lineage and now a secular va fundamentalist competition for the future?

Sounds too much to understand about Samaaaliya. What do we call it???

I don't know let's just put it all under ---what were those keys based on migration period??

That's right! Let's call it the GURI & GALTI PHENOMENON. It sounds soo cool too, whoooah🤜🤛


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