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We saw a pro-N&N and former Madoobe supporter was refused entry to Kismaayo, he is a candidate for Maqaabul seat in the peoples house, will/should this act get and equal and opposite reaction in Garbaharey ?

Two planes of pro Madoobe were refused Garboharray today so maybe its revenge but remember Cali raage was former Madoobe right hand so its probably personal

Absolutely no, no one should be allowed to have free participation violated.

Imagine Maslah was told you can't enter 2012 election, there would be no government right now.

Yet Maslah lost and he was gone while Somalia has moved on.

It would be a dangerous mistake for everyone to get this bigger than it is right this second.

The entire "spirit" of the electoral exercise is free political expression. It is one thing to be playing dirty and even bribery under the table, it is another thing to physically prevent clan membets from choosing or comtestingheir constitutional clan representatives.

Let all the eed/grievance be internally the business of that mp 4.5 clan.

It is stupendously stupid to underestimate the threat

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Absolutely no, no one should be allowed to have free participation violated.

Imagine Maslah was told you can't enter 2012 election, there would be no government right now.

Yet Maslah lost and he was gone while Somalia has moved on.

It would be a dangerous mistake for everyone to get this bigger than it is right this second.

The entire "spirit" of the electoral exercise is free political expression. It is one thing to be playing dirty and even bribery under the table, it is another thing to physically prevent clan membets from choosing or comtestingheir constitutional clan representatives.

Let all the eed/grievance be internally the business of that mp 4.5 clan.

It is stupendously stupid to underestimate the threat

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There’ll be a response bro. They are trying to prevent an election out of spite. In order to push confederation. I’m not worried.

Madobe was absolutely right to refuse entry to the " Holy City".
This individuals presence in Kismayo would not be conducive to the public good.

We saw a pro-N&N and former Madoobe supporter was refused entry to Kismaayo, he is a candidate for Maqaabul seat in the peoples house, will/should this act get and equal and opposite reaction in Garbaharey ?

Expect more sacab tumis for Mr Cheese and continue to act like they are. 5ers.

We saw a pro-N&N and former Madoobe supporter was refused entry to Kismaayo, he is a candidate for Maqaabul seat in the peoples house, will/should this act get and equal and opposite reaction in Garbaharey ?

Expect more sacab tumis for Mr Cheese and continue to act like they are. 5ers.

Why are you so perpetually negative towards Farmajo and the government

I assure you Nine, this was my problem with you and Nomand all along.

I know a lot of Marehan that are lukewatm towards Farmaajo or think MX should look out for its own interests in particular moments.

This is different, originally I rationalized it as maybe not Marehan, but the truth is regardless of whatever motivation, whether MX or not-----what I really taste in essence is political opposition and dislike of Farmaajo personally as politician and his political platform regardless of MX overlap or not.

Opposition to Farmaajo and his unique political platform as a politician is what you don't like, is that true or misinformed?

the lack of political freedom in Kismaayo is nothing new, it is the usual and it is expected, I wanted to see the political maturity of members here, some who took other cagdheer who opposed Madoobe as halyeey before, glad to see you do not take pawns as halyeey anymore. This has absolutely nothing to do with Garbaharey and thats the point of my thread, I don't even think it is right to highlight it giving a former murderer and terrorist accomplice of Madoobe any limelight, let him be humiliated in the worst fashion possible, it is a shame Madoobe did not kill him.

We saw a pro-N&N and former Madoobe supporter was refused entry to Kismaayo, he is a candidate for Maqaabul seat in the peoples house, will/should this act get and equal and opposite reaction in Garbaharey ?

Expect more sacab tumis for Mr Cheese and continue to act like they are. 5ers.

Why are you so perpetually negative towards Farmajo and the government

I assure you Nine, this was my problem with you and Nomand all along.

I know a lot of Marehan that are lukewatm towards Farmaajo or think MX should look out for its own interests in particular moments.

This is different, originally I rationalized it as maybe not Marehan, but the truth is regardless of whatever motivation, whether MX or not-----what I really taste in essence is political opposition and dislike of Farmaajo personally as politician and his political platform regardless of MX overlap or not.

Opposition to Farmaajo and his unique political platform as a politician is what you don't like, is that true or misinformed?

Unless KDF raze Bardera and Beled Xaawo I doubt Beesha will put pressure on Farmajo to antagonize KDF and atleast bring up in parliament to expel KDF from AMISOM. Name a major clan who reacts to their blood being spilt and being violated by being pacifists? Only MX.
It is not unique to Farmajo but most MX diplomats/democrats who represent Beesha and do little to nothing. If Farmajo had viable Ogaden opposition would he be arming Gedo and getting involved? Absolutely not.

That's why I say Madobe nin nool he refused his political enemies any space in Kismayo. While that bastard who was insulting MX kids in dugsi sare and Deni's ilk are allowed to talk about Gedo and to interfere.

Nine,

That’s Buurdhubo mob mentality.

Nine, I think the true is no one in Somalia, leazt of all Marehan who saw Siad Barre, have any delusions about the power of Somali president in this moment regardless of who it is.

Kenya's troops are in Somalia. They were there before Farmajo election.

The fact they are even there to begin with is a reflection of why we don't hold Farmajo responsible for anything

Also, PERSPECTIVE IS IMPORTANT. It is one thing to opem your eyes right now and see the world, it's another having gone through the reality of Somalia as an adult since 91.

Somali government is like a baby and the people are anxiously saying daadah.

No one think this is something you can transplant responsibility.

Farmajo can't tell Kenya to just get out becaise firsr he cant per whoever was in government when AMISOM was made. Do you even know the Somali government doea not have the power in the legal documents tp kick a troop contributing country out and they don't have the power to make ir happen if they did.

You hold people accountable to the level of change they can effect.

In the little he can, God bless Farmaajo for what he has done for Gedo.

And even that little cost so much political capital when even former"presidebts" were directly fighting to as foreign agents throwing spoilers to even run to givr political legitimacy to the KDF charade.

The poor man in Villa somalia needs to be judged proportionately

its so odd but I have agreed with Gubbet on this thread 100%