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they both benefit from the mutually reinforcing moral support of each other's goal, that simultaneous pressure on Habar Gidir, and the tactical control of routes going east and west of Gaalkacyo if the southern road is favorable to HG.

If this is how you and Wagardhac really believe to be than i feel for you lot, this an medieval backward way-of thinking that are still stuck in the age of clannism, and its no wonder that MJ/Puntland keeps arresting and Torturing Wagarhac that flee from Galmudug, the days of Clan this and that is over, today certain clans transformed into States, and with these states comes dynamical powers any backward reer badiya clan cant ever face.

Today there is no such thing as a clan this and that but States and any clans that come between those States will face the full wrath, and is why Puntland arrests/tortures and deports back to galmudug any fugitives we demand so.

Anyway here is Videos of Galmudug officials Visiting Dhinowda and many other Western Deegaans in Jariibaan and western Galkacyo to built Institutes such as Police Stations, bear in mind Dhinowda is a stone throw away from their Garacad in terms of distance.

and as for Galmudug not reaching Eastern Border in Ethiopia bulshit you said, i wont even posts the countless Video of Galmudug Officials Entering Ethiopia every single time since our State-to-state Pact we had with Somali Galbeed, Wagardhac is today facing an Ultimatum to either join us or against between GM and PL States.

they both benefit from the mutually reinforcing moral support of each other's goal, that simultaneous pressure on Habar Gidir, and the tactical control of routes going east and west of Gaalkacyo if the southern road is favorable to HG.

they both benefit from the mutually reinforcing moral support of each other's goal, that simultaneous pressure on Habar Gidir, and the tactical control of routes going east and west of Gaalkacyo if the southern road is favorable to HG.

If this is how you and Wagardhac really believe to be than i feel for you lot, this an medieval backward way-of thinking that are still stuck in the age of clannism, and its no wonder that MJ/Puntland keeps arresting and Torturing Wagarhac that flee from Galmudug, the days of Clan this and that is over, today certain clans transformed into States, and with these states comes dynamical powers any backward reer badiya clan cant ever face.

Today there is no such thing as a clan this and that but States and any clans that come between those States will face the full wrath, and is why Puntland arrests/tortures and deports back to galmudug any fugitives we demand so.

Anyway here is Videos of Galmudug officials Visiting Dhinowda and many other Western Deegaans in Jariibaan and western Galkacyo to built Institutes such as Police Stations, bear in mind Dhinowda is a stone throw away from their Garacad in terms of distance.

and as for Galmudug not reaching Eastern Border in Ethiopia bulshit you said, i wont even posts the countless Video of Galmudug Officials Entering Ethiopia every single time since our State-to-state Pact we had with Somali Galbeed, Wagardhac is today facing an Ultimatum to either join us or against between GM and PL States.

Kees, my personal views are different to every single involved entity.

Stating an objective, 100% factual reason for "what" informs the Defense Pact between Cumar Maxmuud and Wagardhac with Saaxo's birth as the seal is quite literally
"Stating an objective, 100% factual reason for "what" informs the Defense Pact between Cumar Maxmuud and Wagardhac with Saaxo's birth as the seal. "

You quoted this;

they both benefit from the mutually reinforcing moral support of each other's goal, that simultaneous pressure on Habar Gidir, and the tactical control of routes going east and west of Gaalkacyo if the southern road is favorable to HG.

A. Either you don't believe a 'Defense Pact' between Wagardhac and Cumar Maxmuud exists in which case that is why you contest the explanation of the Pact

Or

B. You believe a 'Defense Pact' exists between Wagardhac and Cumar Maxmuud, but you believe something else explains its existence.

Which is the basis for your disagreement?

The you don't believe a Pact exists or that something elsd explains why it exists because I literally only;

1. Stated a Pact exists between Cumar Maxmuud & Wagardhac
2. And gave an explanation for it's existence as I gleaned from the motivations of Cumar Maxmuud and Wagardhac.

I didn't give an opinion; I gave an analysis. What is the basis of your disagreement with? I can only think of two and I just stated them above.

I am actually really interested in your response.

Peace in Mudug must remain steadfast.

Just build your towns and put your guns down is it that hard ?

Instability and futile wars is a sign of weakness and low IQ when your poor have no water.......

Reer PL will protect their citizens Wagardhac to the end.

Wagardhac Lost a lot of land to HG it’s unfortunate.

Peace in Mudug must remain steadfast.

Just build your towns and put your guns down is it that hard ?

Instability and futile wars is a sign of weakness and low IQ when your poor have no water.......

Reer PL will protect their citizens Wagardhac to the end.

Wagardhac Lost a lot of land to HG it’s unfortunate.

Name the lands if you can pls because the only land on record is Galinsoor

First of all, Wagardhac doesn’t share a border with Leelkase, they share a border with a sub clan
Of Leelkase Muumin Adan, secondly there’s no bad blood between them, if anything everytime Wagardhac exchanges blows with Sacad or MJ sub clans they bring their injured to Leelkase runner hospitals in Gaalkacyo or to Galdogob General hospital, they receive patrol and ammo from Muumin Adan whenever they want and they intermarry heavily. There’s a aano killing going on between reer Cumar Maxamud and Wagardhac, CM killed a well known Wagardhac Nabadoon a while back, Wagarhac in return killed two CM nomads and injured one, and they didn’t kill them in Galdogob they killed them in a baali near Galdogob, they disguised themselves as nomads and
claimed to be reer Xirsi Muumin so the men would trust them and let down their guards.