RoM and Grandpakhalif
Mucalimo is unlikely to be punished Cirro is welcomed back so there is no concept of traitors.
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They are all the same rank now including Janan, those three should be banned from Gedo politics to be absolutely fair. Or we forgive them all. I think Beesha has done the latter and chose to “forgive but not forget”. Perhaps in the long run it was a good move to unite Beesha.RoM and Grandpakhalif
Mucalimo is unlikely to be punished Cirro is welcomed back so there is no concept of traitors.
Naw Aw Hirsi was part of JL admin. He didn’t kill anybody. And Moalimu said words and he fought KDF. The loser in this equation is Janan who was armed by Kenyans and he killed a innocent Reer Siyaad family in BX. The level of violations aren’t the same and the one with the most is Janan alongside Ina Sayid Adan, Abbas Gurey, and Fartaag.They are all the same rank now including Janan, those three should be banned from Gedo politics to be absolutely fair. Or we forgive them all. I think Beesha has done the latter and chose to “forgive but not forget”. Perhaps in the long run it was a good move to unite Beesha.RoM and Grandpakhalif
Mucalimo is unlikely to be punished Cirro is welcomed back so there is no concept of traitors.
War nimankaas wa runta its unacceptable laakin ninka Cabaas should be forgiven for the sake of Talxe the man is simply trying to fund his rampant alcholism, the dudes a drunk now miyir ma qaboNaw Aw Hirsi was part of JL admin. He didn’t kill anybody. And Moalimu said words and he fought KDF. The loser in this equation is Janan who was armed by Kenyans and he killed a innocent Reer Siyaad family in BX. The level of violations aren’t the same and the one with the most is Janan alongside Ina Sayid Adan, Abbas Gurey, and Fartaag.They are all the same rank now including Janan, those three should be banned from Gedo politics to be absolutely fair. Or we forgive them all. I think Beesha has done the latter and chose to “forgive but not forget”. Perhaps in the long run it was a good move to unite Beesha.RoM and Grandpakhalif
Mucalimo is unlikely to be punished Cirro is welcomed back so there is no concept of traitors.
Honestly those men are all fasaq and been. They transgressed any rational bounds and need to be held accountable. It’s the wax ma garato that will defend them. Anybody with a brain and dhaqan won’t tolerate their blatant violations. Plus these men didn’t bring home the bacon waa bunch of lahelows.War nimankaas wa runta its unacceptable laakin ninka Cabaas should be forgiven for the sake of Talxe the man is simply trying to fund his rampant alcholism, the dudes a drunk now miyir ma qaboNaw Aw Hirsi was part of JL admin. He didn’t kill anybody. And Moalimu said words and he fought KDF. The loser in this equation is Janan who was armed by Kenyans and he killed a innocent Reer Siyaad family in BX. The level of violations aren’t the same and the one with the most is Janan alongside Ina Sayid Adan, Abbas Gurey, and Fartaag.
They are all the same rank now including Janan, those three should be banned from Gedo politics to be absolutely fair. Or we forgive them all. I think Beesha has done the latter and chose to “forgive but not forget”. Perhaps in the long run it was a good move to unite Beesha.
Pulling the trigger, giving the order, and being in position of power yet allowing it to happen, all 3 people have an obligation to prevent it, that is my moral argument here, also Beledxawo was not the first instance of killing nor the last, keep that in mind.Naw Aw Hirsi was part of JL admin. He didn’t kill anybody. And Moalimu said words and he fought KDF. The loser in this equation is Janan who was armed by Kenyans and he killed a innocent Reer Siyaad family in BX. The level of violations aren’t the same and the one with the most is Janan alongside Ina Sayid Adan, Abbas Gurey, and Fartaag.They are all the same rank now including Janan, those three should be banned from Gedo politics to be absolutely fair. Or we forgive them all. I think Beesha has done the latter and chose to “forgive but not forget”. Perhaps in the long run it was a good move to unite Beesha.RoM and Grandpakhalif
Mucalimo is unlikely to be punished Cirro is welcomed back so there is no concept of traitors.
Fair enough but I have my doubts. We’ll see if Sade has learned anythingPulling the trigger, giving the order, and being in position of power yet allowing it to happen, all 3 people have an obligation to prevent it, that is my moral argument here, also Beledxawo was not the first instance of killing nor the last, keep that in mind.Naw Aw Hirsi was part of JL admin. He didn’t kill anybody. And Moalimu said words and he fought KDF. The loser in this equation is Janan who was armed by Kenyans and he killed a innocent Reer Siyaad family in BX. The level of violations aren’t the same and the one with the most is Janan alongside Ina Sayid Adan, Abbas Gurey, and Fartaag.
They are all the same rank now including Janan, those three should be banned from Gedo politics to be absolutely fair. Or we forgive them all. I think Beesha has done the latter and chose to “forgive but not forget”. Perhaps in the long run it was a good move to unite Beesha.
My moral argument although I believe it to be sound, it is not practical, how can you apply it in the real world, that is why you have to think logically and not with the heart.
Our interest is in consolidating power now not being a moral utopia.
Retrospective hindsight is 20/20Of course, but in this moment, we need stability and what Ximan thought was an insult (being a little unfair here to Ximan to make a point) is actually extremely positive.Once this emergency situation is over. We need local elections like 1p1v. No legitimacy comes from appointments. It only creates resentments.
You agree Canjeex needs to be replaced? Why?
YES, YES, YES ABSOLUTELY YES CANJEEX HAS STATURE AND CREDIBILITY WITH REER HASSAN AND THAT STRONGLY FED INTO HIS NOMINATION AS GOVERNOR.
Why is it an insult to be picked FOR credibility or even try to demonize or put down the fact that Mareexaan, reer Diini included, from as high as the President's office intentionally and clearly were motivated by maslaxad and reconciliation trying to respond directly to any rer Hassan tabasho and were acknowledging their desire to address it.
That's not shameful to me. That's WHAT I WANT IN MAREEXAAN. I want Mareexaan that cares what their brother thinks and is self-aware of risk to brotherhood; that are proactive not reactive to potential damage to reconciliation and signal to each other "I hear you and I receive your message."
I would rather go too far indulging my brother than the opposite.
So yes Canjeex was picked because he was Reer Hassan and because he had credibility with reer Hassan.
But Canjeex is not only that, he is also the only Marehan leader currently that can go to my own sub-clan, swing open the doors, sit down like he is one and can say "let's think differently about this, there is no reason for you guys to think this is just against your sub-clan."
He is the only MX leader right now that can walk into Beled-Xaawo and command court between Reer Sheikh and Hiraabeeye between Celi Dheere right this second.
In a weird twist of fate that shows how unifying Canjeex is right now, do you guys even realize his reer Abti are WAGARDHAC, meaning he is half and half in his very parentage and upbringing, as Reer Guri as you can get and rer Gedood AND as reer Mudug as Mareexaan can get.
I have noticed NGM using the word XILIGA KALA GUURKA quite a bit, I LOVE IT. I pay attention to phraseology by habit so it was hard to miss it.
IT IS THE PERFECT WORD THAT SHOWS CANJEEX'S NEAR EXISTENTIAL IMPORTANCE AT THIS MOMENT.
- kumeel gaar vs kala guur
- Ku-meel-gaar is really TEMPORARY, short tenure, provisional, something not permenant/interim
- Kala-Guur is IN MOTION APART and when you add "Xiliga" it is MOMENT AT WHICH THERE IS MOTION APART/transitional
- Kumeel Gaar CONNECTS two permanent periods, it literally just fills the void between
- Xiliga Kala Guurka ENDS one permanent period, and BEGINS a new permanent period.
- Kumeel Gaar is like a COMMA (,) in a sentence, but Xiliga Kala guurka is like a PERIOD (.) at the end of the sentence
So this is why NGM's use of XILIGA KALA GUURKA is not only correct but the fact he uses that and not ku-meel-gaar is so linguistically perfect
Canjeex is Governor because hís experience, his understanding, even his familiar face IS STABILIZING right now in this moment of Xiliga Kala Guurka.
Literally one thing and one thing informs his job description right now; KEEP THIS SHIP UNDER CONTROL/DON'T EVEN LET IT SWERVE.
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