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12,000

Postby RovingMadness » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:06 am

The number of AMISOM troops currently in Mogadishu. Best of luck to the TFG and its allies in the upcoming Final Push :som: :up:

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Re: 12,000

Postby Murax » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:17 am

Even with 9000 I'm completely clueless as to why all of Mogadishu has not been able to be pacified. Shabab's strength is really overrated, and AMISOM is by far better armed, has people providing them logistics, are well fed and have everything they need. On top of that they have the Somali TFG troops who while I admit are pretty useless, at least they're something. Something really tells me they've been stalling or something.

What a major, major dissapointment and failure it will be if Xamar is not completely captured and pacified by the end of this year :idea:

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Re: 12,000

Postby RovingMadness » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:26 am

Even with 9000 I'm completely clueless as to why all of Mogadishu has not been able to be pacified. Shabab's strength is really overrated, and AMISOM is by far better armed, has people providing them logistics, are well fed and have everything they need. On top of that they have the Somali TFG troops who while I admit are pretty useless, at least they're something. Something really tells me they've been stalling or something.

What a major, major dissapointment and failure it will be if Xamar is not completely captured and pacified by the end of this year :idea:
I think once the new cabinet is named and the government settles in within the next 30 days or so, you will see a real coordinated and concerted effort to liberate the remaining areas of Mogadishu. The reason the extra 3000 troops arrived is not simply to capture the remaining areas ( the current 9000 AMISOM and ~9000 TFG troops in Xamar are enough for this) but to consolidate and secure the would be liberated areas. As I understand, 2000 troops from Jabuti would join by August and Burundi is likely to march Uganda's extra 3000 surge. Inshallah, Mogadishu will be fully under the government control by end of Ramadan, if everything goes to plan.

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Re: 12,000

Postby Murax » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:30 am

Even with 9000 I'm completely clueless as to why all of Mogadishu has not been able to be pacified. Shabab's strength is really overrated, and AMISOM is by far better armed, has people providing them logistics, are well fed and have everything they need. On top of that they have the Somali TFG troops who while I admit are pretty useless, at least they're something. Something really tells me they've been stalling or something.

What a major, major dissapointment and failure it will be if Xamar is not completely captured and pacified by the end of this year :idea:
I think once the new cabinet is named and the government settles in within the next 30 days or so, you will see a real coordinated and concerted effort to liberate the remaining areas of Mogadishu. The reason the extra 3000 troops arrived is not simply to capture the remaining areas ( the current 9000 AMISOM and ~9000 TFG troops in Xamar are enough for this) but to consolidate and secure the would be liberated areas. As I understand, 2000 troops from Jabuti would join by August and Burundi is likely to march Uganda's extra 3000 surge. Inshallah, Mogadishu will be fully under the government control by end of Ramadan, if everything goes to plan.

That would be the hope. The TFG Charter has all these transitional task that have to be completed but as far as I'm concerned if the TFG can simply capture, secure and consolidate Mogadishu alone that would be considered a sufficant enough Federal task. Then the next President/Admin/Gov that comes in next year can at least have a seat of Government and a City to work with instead of having to repeat the saga from scratch.

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Re: 12,000

Postby RovingMadness » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:37 am

As Mogadishu goes, so does the nation. Hopefully, this Gaaz guy can continue and build on the work started by Farmaajo. But from the looks of his eyes, he looks like another mama-boy.

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Re: 12,000

Postby Murax » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:44 am

As Mogadishu goes, so does the nation. Hopefully, this Gaaz guy can continue and build on the work started by Farmaajo. But from the looks of his eyes, he looks like another mama-boy.

I think the biggest thing is the cabinet he names. If He brings back the same one, or at least comes with similar type then the show will go on. If its a repeat of the 30 plus with the likes of Indacadde and others in there then the writing is on the wall that the gov will be a failure.

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Re: 12,000

Postby JolieFille » Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:43 am

unbelievable, I don't understand how any sane person can support foreign occupation of his country, but then again what should we expect from the people who welcomed Ethiopias invasion in 2006? :| it's pathetic that 51 years after Somalia's independence, 12000 foreign troops are in Mogadishu. :som: :down:

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Re: 12,000

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:05 am

pretty useless development if you ask me.the only two things that would make a difference for the long run (institutions and army) remain as pathetic and as useless as it can get.Neither the international community nor the TFG is investing in them and even if this Gas guy bring a cabinet full of those so called technocrats they cant do nothing with such a tight budget,where most of the external aid is falling in the wrong hands (AU troops).any advances that those Fufu boys achieve will be a short victory and reversed by the teenagers as soon as they are gone.anyone who belives the current TFG structure can work is kidding him self.

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Re: 12,000

Postby D-Runner » Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:48 am

Lol@ another mama's boy.

We have an inarticulate president at the helm of this TFG. The man sucks in Arabic and he speaks neither English nor French. He even failed to put the moral force he enjoyed during president Yusuf's days as a man of God and as an Islamist leader to good use. How this Rovingmadass looks pass this guy for this TFGs failure is beyond me.

The multiple inadequacies this 2km president laid bare remains the biggest obstacle this Harvard graduate will face. The new PM hopefully won't agree to his wishes or anyone else's to bloat his about to be named cabinet with condoms.

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Re: 12,000

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:35 am

The new PM hopefully won't agree to his wishes or anyone else's to bloat his about to be named cabinet with condoms.
what are you talking about? its an open secret the new government will be formed according to the Kampala accord and will be split right in the middle between the two sherifs,just by agreeing to head this government Abdiwali has became the prime condom,if anything :|

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Re: 12,000

Postby ciyaal_warta » Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:38 am

the rumors in xamar is that they want to capture mogadishu so that the pple of soomaaliye wont wake up and start blaming them that they are hear for the money only



looool @ D-runner trying to make point with languages :lol: :lol:
like ur adeer yeey spoke arabic :lol:

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Re: 12,000

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:07 am

^^ actually shariif's arabic is pretty nice for a somali politician but he abuses the word "fiil xaqiiqa" :lol: :down:

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Re: 12,000

Postby ciyaal_warta » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:55 am

my prediction is that they are other countries that will join the amisom forces besides burundi and ugandha since the US started giving defence equipments and they looking to get some of those drones :down: :down:

^^ actually shariif's arabic is pretty nice for a somali politician but he abuses the word "fiil xaqiiqa" :lol: :down:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yh i have seen that mid kale oo Kalmada "Yacni" xasuuqay baan kasaa :lol: :lol:

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Re: 12,000

Postby XimanJaale » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:01 am

Walle the thread starter is smart. Using number figures as a title, so that the MODS won't think its political related. This thread needs to be moved to political section :!: if my thread gets deleted i won't allow others to let off.

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Re: 12,000

Postby ciyaal_warta » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:10 am

Walle the thread starter is smart. Using number figures as a title, so that the MODS won't think its political related. This thread needs to be moved to political section :!: if my thread gets deleted i won't allow others to let off.

lmao war ma khafiiftay maxaa meeel walbo ku dhigay move this thread ugu heysaa :lol: :lol: :lol:


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