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kkk thats maahmaah reer mudug. Hawadle waaba ka cararaan Jowhar bc they dont want Abgaal to say jowhar is a shared town so they can have the president. ex hirshabelle prez osoble said recently whay hawadle say you put hiiraan under jowhar when jowhar itself is shared by hawadle?Ku qabso ku qadimeyside..
I was watching yesterday a UTV report on the Mukay Dheere fatahaad, and with the many fatahaad reports coming from Hirshabelle, I wonder about what makes the region more prone to fatahaads compared to other regions?
Sxb aren’t u the vanguard of federalism kkkk. U are right SXB Somalia somali baa leh, but clan division will stay as long as 4.5 is a thing unfortunately.Somalia somali baa leh, xaafada unukaa leh maxaa la faaiday. I am Mj but would like to visit and enjoy beautiful jowhar. Why do we always have to stay divided.
waxba kama jiraan kkkkSxb waxaas wax Kama jiraan. There is more moobleen than xawadle. Hantiwadaag(biggest xaafad)= gaaljecel horseed=jareer buulo shiiqaal=abgaal
Nevertheless walaalaheen made big mistake with jowhar nearly as big as baadicade mistake in buloburte. As long as 4.5 is reality, beesha should make their own xaafaad and make jowhar like twin cities. Entire galbeed middle shabelle and northern/north west lower shabelle waa dhul gaaljecel so We need to make 1 big city. My pick is beled amiin on the border it is ideal area a lot of farms and barsane tuulo in this area.
Some flooded farms near jowhar
After caloofi barsane, even my clan abtisame has presence there. The abtisame of jowhar are called cifaaf, around 25 families in jowhar. Jowhar=
1| jareer (undisputed
2| gaaljecel
3 | abgaal
4| others
As you have analysed before many times, abgaal control on jowhar is through xamar not because of population.
I agree there is xawadle presence around Fiidow buurane I have seen evidence in articles. maybe after hirshabelle formation 2016 things changed but historically the numbers of gaaljecel/xawadle in jowhar city is not even close sxbwaxba kama jiraan kkkkSxb waxaas wax Kama jiraan. There is more moobleen than xawadle. Hantiwadaag(biggest xaafad)= gaaljecel horseed=jareer buulo shiiqaal=abgaal
Nevertheless walaalaheen made big mistake with jowhar nearly as big as baadicade mistake in buloburte. As long as 4.5 is reality, beesha should make their own xaafaad and make jowhar like twin cities. Entire galbeed middle shabelle and northern/north west lower shabelle waa dhul gaaljecel so We need to make 1 big city. My pick is beled amiin on the border it is ideal area a lot of farms and barsane tuulo in this area.
Some flooded farms near jowhar
After caloofi barsane, even my clan abtisame has presence there. The abtisame of jowhar are called cifaaf, around 25 families in jowhar. Jowhar=
1| jareer (undisputed
2| gaaljecel
3 | abgaal
4| others
As you have analysed before many times, abgaal control on jowhar is through xamar not because of population.
kulayaabimaayo waxaa lagugu soo koriyay qoraxsin waa gugundhabo until it took you ages that buundoweyn is qoraxsin dont let me repost that old thread kkk buuloburde is qoraxsin.
hada waxaa la soo baxdey halmar hantiwadaag waa gaaljecel just bc its qoraxsin
sxb lets agree on this for once.
we r talking For qoraxsin Jowhar not for qoraxsin middle shabelle wich is a tiny comparing to the rest of Abgaal dominated middle shabelle. see the middle shabelle map east of the river.
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you dominate that 20% area west of the river however the Jowhar-hiiraan highway is hawadle like buurane wich is dominated by ali madaxweyne let alone other hawadle. buuraane is located between jowhar and mahaday. and then lopk at dhurwayle and dabeeyley wich is just the nothe westren outskirts of jowhar. here we enter from hantiwadaag and after long research and interviews with people from jowhar including non Hawadle and Abgaal i was told that hawadle and Gaaljecel r the same size in side jowhar.
Hawadle control the highway between buurane and calidheer and kaliga shiinaha, fiidow up to hiiraan. look wadada are west of the river. i have this strategic part of qoraxsin keep your far reaching rural qoraxsin
hantiwagaad waa afar number; koowaad mushakal there is even murusade and baadicade but let us suppose that gaaljecel are number one in the mushakal koowaad.
2 and 3 are predominantly hawadle.
4 is predominantly Gaaljecel. this is the outskirts of jowhar so we r closer the center than you as 2aad and 3aad its called xaafada baryare waa meel shidan waxaa ku yaal hotel safa oo hawadle ah
laakin when it comes to the qoraxsin country side gaaljecel are bigger and go up all the way north west of Balcad connecting to their presence in koonfur galbeed highway at balidoogle. thid is the typical gaaljecel country no one denies this but jowhar id in the border between Abgaal from the east of the river, and hawadle from hiiraan and gaaljecel from hiiraan and lower shabelle. Abgaal run Jowhar bc its the capital of middle shabelle wich is prodiminantly Abgaal look the map again apart from jowhar. the second factor is closer to Xamar than Baladweyne and they have the SNA from Xamar and yesterday Ceelmacaan port.
Gaaljecel country between jowhar and north west of balcad and the koonfurgalbeed highway north of afgooye.
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