Abwaan Abshir Nuur Cali(Bacadlle)

Karbaash_killa · Postby **Karbaash_killa** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:51 pm

I love the way you can connect to unrelated incidents... i mean ... i can blame another Sacad for being at home watching TV while another was ambushed by cops outside.....

Totally unrelated... AW.. sheekado hanagu qaraaren.

Postby **AbdiWahab252** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:24 am

KK,

Bacadle is a UIC hero not a Sacad one.

Let him sing his gabay all he wants but should not be counted as one of the Beesha.

Ismahan445 · Postby **Ismahan445** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:39 am

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]KK,

Bacadle is a UIC hero not a Sacad one.

Let him sing his gabay all he wants but should not be counted as one of the Beesha.[/quote]

AbdiWahab bro, come on now, that is not fair. This man truly loves his people, and sometimes loved ones disagree. Don't be so judgmental to him like that.

Postby **Xamud.** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:47 am

I heard he was dead? probably some fake shidh!

Postby **AbdiWahab252** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:47 am

Isamahan,

How can you love your people when innocent Sacad employees: waitstaff, cooks, hotel workers are slaughtered like goats inside the Saxafi Hotel by Shiisheeye & yet you sing your ballads Shocked

That show implies your believe in the UIC supercedes your loyalty to your clan

Ismahan445 · Postby **Ismahan445** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:55 am

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Isamahan,

How can you love your people when innocent Sacad employees: waitstaff, cooks, hotel workers are slaughtered like goats inside the Saxafi Hotel by Shiisheeye & yet you sing your ballads Shocked

That show implies your believe in the UIC supercedes your loyalty to your clan[/quote]

Walaalo, what has go into you? How can you blame him for that. Its like what Karbash said before

[quote="Karbaash_killa"]I love the way you can connect to unrelated incidents... i mean ... i can blame another Sacad for being at home watching TV while another was ambushed by cops outside"' that is unrelated and unfairly blame.

Postby **AbdiWahab252** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:14 am

ISamahan,

He could have done the honorable thing & avoided saying anything & the lime light.

During this moment, Ibrahim Caddow was no where to be seen. He avoided the embarrasement & the possibility of some day facing the music among Beesha.

That could not be said for Bacadle or Cumar AFtooje who both were involved in the fighting directly (Cumar Aftooje) and indirectly Bacalde (Proganda calling for surrender).

Other known criminals: Ali Tooyo (J), this indoyaar guy (I forgot his name but was known to have fled the UIC after the Saxafi Hotel massacre) etc

Ismahan445 · Postby **Ismahan445** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:02 am

AW, since we seem to look things differently here, lets agree to disagree brother.

Karbaash_killa · Postby **Karbaash_killa** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:40 am

War ninkaan is yeel yeel ayeey ka tahay ..ee ha u bixin....ileen marba hadii warka la isku qaraareeyo..THERE IS NO HOPE!

Ismahan445 · Postby **Ismahan445** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:04 pm

AW, just out of curiosity, Why was the abwaanka incarcerated?

Postby **AbdiWahab252** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:19 pm

Isamahan,

From what I heard it was regarding for being a snitch for Siyaad's govt.

KK,

My my, we seem to be very touchy about a man who insults others in his gabay yet is sensitive to criticism Laughing

Karbaash_killa · Postby **Karbaash_killa** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:49 pm

Aha! AW you supported a man being hunted down and jailed with out knowing for sure what it was about...

Abwan Abshir Bacaleh..... Made poems about the oppressive regime of siyad barre ... while having an on going dispute with suufiyiinta.... then Siyad barre ordered his arrest and Suufiis like the other bacaleh.... took the lead for the hunt and arrested him....!

So a mareexan man asked for a sacad mans capture and another sacad man went and captured his brother just because he disagreed with suufism and was affraid of his beloved extreme virsion of suufism would be exposed!

SO what happen to ... Sacad first.... or since he disagree with Suufism its ok to hunt him down... What a shame.. you don't even live up to your own philosophy's

Postby **AbdiWahab252** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:01 pm

KK,

Arrested is not the same thing as being murdered. Shouldn't Bacadle have arrested the 6 innocent souls murdered in the Saxafi hotel instead of them being butchered ?

Bacadle was complicit in the murders of 6 Sacad civilians. It will go down in his history.

With regards to the Qadriya, the Sacad wadaads in the Qadriya opposed the UIC and were instruemental in minimizing the UIC in Mudug. On the Saleman side, their Qadriyas were also influential in keeping away young men from fighting for the UIC.

Suufis defeated the heretical UIC.

KK,

Walaal, why was Ibrahim Caddow not involved in the war against the Sacad ? Shouldn't have Bacadle also done the same.

Karbaash_killa · Postby **Karbaash_killa** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:02 pm

AW ..abti macaan ..criticize all you like.... thats not the issue.... but you downgrading him personally.... attempt to put his SACADNIMO in doubt...while attaching two unrelated stories...it becomes unacceptable.. i loose desire to argue/discuss any further...

Say he believed in UIC ... i didn't.... we disagreed .. im critical of his support for UIC ... i think he shouldn't have but he still my adeer..

Thats criticizing

The other is offensive for no particular reason..

Karbaash_killa · Postby **Karbaash_killa** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:06 pm

War bacadleh wasnt the Minister of defence for UIC.... what are you talking about...

Bacadleh is just a supporter but because of his high profile of speaking out against Xaq daro iyo fidno ... UIC liked him alot... thats all

So once some killings happen ... you put the blame on this poor man just to downgrade him..

If he is guilty of anything then so am i and thousands of other Sacads... Because he is no different..

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